My new beast

[FDG 220]

OK she's not a FORD but i am still building my project AU so don't stress

I ended up getting the top of the range Turbo Diesel SR5 Hilux dual cab
I traded my EF II XR8 on this lil puppy
Deposit has been paid and is subject to dealer getting rest of $$$ on finance which shouldn't be too difficult

Expecting delivery late January - Early Febuary so she'll be an 07 plated vehicle :

Here's couple pics off Toyota's website




Mine comes optioned with rear roll bar, hard cover, front forged alloy bullbar, towing pack (towbar rated to 2500kg), tinted windows and the usual rust protection package etc etc etc

Perfect for towing my boat around and the car trailer i'm about to buy which will be REAL handy in AU buildup

OHHHHH I can't wait :

[poolkeeper]

Now to get some 24s

[MrSparkle]

They are a great truck and could show the Ford equivalents a thing or two about resale!

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by TickXR

Awesome! So this truck comes with Ritchie Sambora and David Lee Roth as standard equipment? Or do they come with the "Substance Abuse Pack" ?

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

Or do they come with the "Substance Abuse Pack" ?

Dang… Now you tell me they have this option. : py:

[Green X]

Should of stayed true to the Blue and got the new Ranger when it comes out, mate.

Hi-lux “get in or get out of the way” So what are they saying, it handles that badly it’s safer to be inside it. LOL

[McobraR]

awesome choice there! Those Hilux's are really something, i know that'd be my first choice if i was to get a Pickup, F250/350 being too big and the F150... well Ford seems too lazy to bring it over here damnit!

[FDG 220]

LOL fellas

This 4x4 will be getting used along such tracks as the canning stock route and birdsville track etc so no 24" wheels here

I wanted a ute so it is easier to cart my racing gear in so anything like a Ranger was out of question as well, besides if it was a wagon i was after then i'd lean towards Patrol as these are proven performers in outback conditions

I have to agree these new Hilux's are in a league of there own, nothing like there older siblings in any way

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

Awesome! So this truck comes with Ritchie Sambora and David Lee Roth as standard equipment? Or do they come with the "Substance Abuse Pack" ?

Substance Abuse? nah... they just forgot where they left the trailer to get their Waverunner home!

[Harro]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

Awesome! So this truck comes with Ritchie Sambora and David Lee Roth as standard equipment? Or do they come with the "Substance Abuse Pack" ?

Oh god so funny yet so true.

And back on track Nice pick up. Have always loved the hilux's, and the new one looks the goods

[PoMmYwOG]

Originally Posted by TickXR

LOL fellas

This 4x4 will be getting used along such tracks as the canning stock route and birdsville track etc so no 24" wheels here

I wanted a ute so it is easier to cart my racing gear in so anything like a Ranger was out of question as well, besides if it was a wagon i was after then i'd lean towards Patrol as these are proven performers in outback conditions

I have to agree these new Hilux's are in a league of there own, nothing like there older siblings in any way

Nissan patrols are absolute crap! Thier turbo diesel are very bad, they have problems now of blowing 3rd and 4th piston in the engine as they seem to not be recieving any oil to lubricate them. In a few of my dads 4x4 magazine , has big write ups on them compared to the toyotas. This one guy(in NRMA members mag), was driving to darwin and got stuck @ alice springs(something on the 4wd system failed). He tried to claim warrenty and nissan said that its not an all terrain vehicle(so then whats the point of having a 4wd???) so they wouldnt fix the problem. He fixed it then traded in for a new 100series TD cruiser and never looked back.
Nissan has never been able to compare to toyota in the 4wd dept. There big and supposubly powerful 4.8L 6 is nothing, my dads 80series 4.5L eats them for lunch. Even off road when my dad used to go with his mates, the nissans couldnt keep up with the cruiser and hilux/4 runners.
Good choice on the Hilux, much better vehicle than the nissan. If your gonna go big 4wd wagon def go the 100series, or the 200 series coming out.

[Dazza XLT]

Originally Posted by TickXR

Mine comes optioned with rear roll bar, hard cover, front forged alloy bullbar, towing pack (towbar rated to 2500kg), tinted windows and the usual rust protection package etc etc etc

Their forged bullbars are crap. I wouldn't even bother getting one.
Ask the dealer if he can get you an ARB, or TJM Hilux bar. They're welded, not forged.

Or

And you can colour code too, which I reckon looks horn.

We had a few forged bullbars in the NT... Whenever you hit a roo on the lower corners of the bullbars, it would just crack!!! Even collected one in the middle, and the bullbar just cracked and folded in!
Bullbars are supposed to save you money, not cost it.

We replaced 3 of the forged Prado Bars while I was in the NT, same as the below photo... These are similar to the Hilux bars.


We recently purchased a new hilux for work here, and the dealer was able to source a bullbar from a local 4x4 shop, so it should be do-able!

Hope that is some help!

Cheers

Darran

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by PoMmYwOG

Nissan patrols are absolute crap! Thier turbo diesel are very bad, they have problems now of blowing 3rd and 4th piston in the engine as they seem to not be recieving any oil to lubricate them. In a few of my dads 4x4 magazine , has big write ups on them compared to the toyotas. This one guy(in NRMA members mag), was driving to darwin and got stuck @ alice springs(something on the 4wd system failed). He tried to claim warrenty and nissan said that its not an all terrain vehicle(so then whats the point of having a 4wd???) so they wouldnt fix the problem. He fixed it then traded in for a new 100series TD cruiser and never looked back.
Nissan has never been able to compare to toyota in the 4wd dept. There big and supposubly powerful 4.8L 6 is nothing, my dads 80series 4.5L eats them for lunch. Even off road when my dad used to go with his mates, the nissans couldnt keep up with the cruiser and hilux/4 runners.
Good choice on the Hilux, much better vehicle than the nissan. If your gonna go big 4wd wagon def go the 100series, or the 200 series coming out.

GU1's had some issue'e with the 3 litre diesel. Nissan fixed it with some after market mods (bigger sump I believe) And all repairs were done under warranty if all the vehicle's maintenence was up to date. If there were issues getting it fixed, tell us the other side of the story.

The GU2 , 3, and 4 three litre 4 wheelers are above anything that toyota has to offer in the serious 4 wheeler market (IFS is a compromise) in that class. The only 4X4 that I would buy would be a Patrol or a troopy and maybe a defender. But I take my vehicles off road proper. Most of the folk around here do as well. At the moment out here, in the real outback, you will see 2 patrols to every 100 series cruiser. Cruisers are great for the snow and the school run, but leave them at home if you are REALLY going bush. Has your dad has issues with his front end snapping yet?? If he does any kind of long runs like the tanami or plenty hwy make sure he gets the OME after market re-enforcement kit fitted. Your statement about the hi-lux's and cruisers eating the nissans is funny..... You dont REALLY believe that do you????

Come out here and see what 4 wheel driving is really like.

Cheers.

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by Darran

Their forged bullbars are crap. I wouldn't even bother getting one.
Ask the dealer if he can get you an ARB, or TJM Hilux bar. They're welded, not forged.

Or

And you can colour code too, which I reckon looks horn.

We had a few forged bullbars in the NT... Whenever you hit a roo on the lower corners of the bullbars, it would just crack!!! Even collected one in the middle, and the bullbar just cracked and folded in!
Bullbars are supposed to save you money, not cost it.

We replaced 3 of the forged Prado Bars while I was in the NT, same as the below photo... These are similar to the Hilux bars.


We recently purchased a new hilux for work here, and the dealer was able to source a bullbar from a local 4x4 shop, so it should be do-able!

Hope that is some help!

Cheers

Darran

Good point Darran. I missed that. DONT get the forged roobar. Get a steel one and throw the standard toyota suspension away, both are really crap. If you hit a reasonable sized roo with the forged bar it will bend back and take out your front panels. I can recomend OME shocks and springs. My patrol has done tens of thousands of kilometers on roads like the Tanami and plenty, victoria, hwys, and the suspension is awsome. Get the nitro cooled shockers, they are worth the extra $$$

Enjoy your truck.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by TickXR

LOL fellas
I have to agree these new Hilux's are in a league of there own, nothing like there older siblings in any way

They were in a league of their own until the new Navara was released, i had a deposit on one and cancelled it. The new Hilux is a big step up on the older models, but they don't have the value for $ like the Nissan. (06 Dual cab ute of the year)

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

They were in a league of their own until the new Navara was released, i had a deposit on one and cancelled it. The new Hilux is a big step up on the older models, but they don't have the value for $ like the Nissan. (06 Dual cab ute of the year)

This is true. I would buy a navara on looks alone.... But any 4X4 with IFS is no good to me. But for many people it is not an issue, rather a benefit, as their cars spend more time on the black top than the red top.

[bt0]

My brother just picked up his 06 navara and its tops... I dont know much about 4wd's etc but its got plenty of power and is sweet to drive.
I dunno which is better, but I reckon those new Hilux's look awesome aswell.
Enjoy!

[Green X]

The Ranger Is a Ute mate

Pommywog
The 4.2-turbo diesel Patrols are unbreakable the 3.0Ltr did have some reliability issues, theories range from Bad oiling system to Australians Poor diesel quality.

Only countries with Poor quality diesel experienced big problems with the 3.0ltrDi engine, and Australia was one of few countries with poor quality diesel in which it was realised.

[Dazza XLT]

Originally Posted by Green X

The Ranger Is a Ute mate
The 4.2-turbo diesel Patrols are unbreakable the 3.0Ltr did have some reliability issues, theories range from Bad oiling system to Australians Poor diesel quality.

We had 2x 3lt Turbo Diesel motors let go up in the NT. The Livestock agents were driving them rather hard. Spent most of their time travelling at 140-160.
We then upgraded to a 4.2TD's, and they hasn't missed a beat.

Cheers

[WINDSR]

Great choice. They are way out in there own league. The new Nissan Navara has no ground clearance at all. Cant take them out in the sand. There also better than any Ford 4x4 on the market.

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by WINDSR

Great choice. They are way out in there own league. The new Nissan Navara has no ground clearance at all. Cant take them out in the sand. There also better than any Ford 4x4 on the market.

my old man has an 06 navara and it is a ripper

we have ben in a few sticky situations in it and it has never let us down

it is a turbo 3 ltr diesel he has taken it to more places than most would only dream about

jason

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by WINDSR

Great choice. They are way out in there own league. The new Nissan Navara has no ground clearance at all. Cant take them out in the sand. There also better than any Ford 4x4 on the market.

Navara ground clearance = 215mm
HiLux ground clearance = 215mm

Maybe Toyota drivers have trouble with measuring things... :hihi: :

[WINDSR]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

Navara ground clearance = 215mm
HiLux ground clearance = 215mm

Maybe Toyota drivers have trouble with measuring things... :hihi: :

STR OR STX?

STR has 225mm ground clearance. : :
STX is more of a city boy ute IMO.

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by WINDSR

STR OR STX?

STR has 225mm ground clearance. : :
STX is more of a city boy ute IMO.

Got the numbers from drive.com. Neither vehicle is a real off roader. They are soft roaders. We went accross the canning stock route middle of last year. The only vehicles that had to find alternate routes in some places were the cars with IFS. Troopies, Patrols, were the only cars that did not need babying through some creek and river crossings.

I would be thinking really long and hard before I took either od these cars into the real outback. Four wheelers were not built with solid front ends for nothing.

[Green X]

That’s the measurement from the lowest point, so one of the diffs proberbly the rear.

What’s the measurement from the Chaise railes and or body to the ground, and ramp over, departure and approach angles, as they are going to be the limiting factor on where you can take the thing, How often do you get hung up on a Diff

On the older Hi-Lux landing on the T/case would have been my biggest concern man that thing hung Low.



Beaching yourself on the chassis coming over a dune or negotiating a rutted track will be more of the Limiting factor

Driveline> Toyota diffs are chit, and there LSD’s are Pathetic
Nissan> better driveline overall and there LSD’s rock

[WINDSR]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

Got the numbers from drive.com. Neither vehicle is a real off roader. They are soft roaders. We went accross the canning stock route middle of last year. The only vehicles that had to find alternate routes in some places were the cars with IFS. Troopies, Patrols, were the only cars that did not need babying through some creek and river crossings.

I would be thinking really long and hard before I took either od these cars into the real outback. Four wheelers were not built with solid front ends for nothing.

True about the solid front end. What trade utes come with one these days? Cant think of any. Crusiers and Patrols are the best for the red but lack a Dual cab and chew the fuel. (If I could afford one, id have one)

Just stick with the soft roaders to take the bike to the track or throw a boat in the river.

[PoMmYwOG]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

GU1's had some issue'e with the 3 litre diesel. Nissan fixed it with some after market mods (bigger sump I believe) And all repairs were done under warranty if all the vehicle's maintenence was up to date. If there were issues getting it fixed, tell us the other side of the story.

The GU2 , 3, and 4 three litre 4 wheelers are above anything that toyota has to offer in the serious 4 wheeler market (IFS is a compromise) in that class. The only 4X4 that I would buy would be a Patrol or a troopy and maybe a defender. But I take my vehicles off road proper. Most of the folk around here do as well. At the moment out here, in the real outback, you will see 2 patrols to every 100 series cruiser. Cruisers are great for the snow and the school run, but leave them at home if you are REALLY going bush. Has your dad has issues with his front end snapping yet?? If he does any kind of long runs like the tanami or plenty hwy make sure he gets the OME after market re-enforcement kit fitted. Your statement about the hi-lux's and cruisers eating the nissans is funny..... You dont REALLY believe that do you????

Come out here and see what 4 wheel driving is really like.

Cheers.

Sorry mate but i disagree with you, since the 1980's my dad and his mates have owned various 4wd's and have found the cruisers to be the best. We do go REAL 4wding in the bush, places such as nowra, blaxland(closed now!!!), jenolan forest, sydney to cape york, they even went from sydney to perth etc. When we've gone 4wding we've had Nissans with us and they simply were no competition to the Cruisers. We arnt talking dirt tracks and few hills, i mean pretty serious 4wding, not dirt roads and lil hill with a few ruts.
I do believe the hilux/cruisers will eat the Nissan because they do and i have seen it. The newer patrols are a vast improvement over the earlier model <GQ, but still no comparison to cruisers IMO.
My dad never had problems with his,4runner, 80 series, or his 60 series cruiser, but his mates all had problems with thier patrols.
He has a factory twin LSD setup in his 80 and it works really well, doesnt need aftermarket lockers. His front end is perfect no problems, and its been through alot of stress. What makes big difference also was he changed all diff and manual trans fluids to fully synthetic, work alot better and more smoother.
i've seen many 4wd videos, been on many trips and read many articles for these two 4wd's and my opionion is Toyota is better than the Nissan.
Theres no point me going any deeper into this subject as obviously we have different views I think its best to agree to disagree before it gets ugly. You can stick to Nissan 4WD's and I'll stick to toyota 4WD's...

[banarcus]

So with all that ground clearance and 4x4 pedigree will it be seeing dirt, sand or bush?

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by PoMmYwOG

Sorry mate but i disagree with you, since the 1980's my dad and his mates have owned various 4wd's and have found the cruisers to be the best. We do go REAL 4wding in the bush, places such as nowra, blaxland(closed now!!!), jenolan forest, sydney to cape york, they even went from sydney to perth etc. When we've gone 4wding we've had Nissans with us and they simply were no competition to the Cruisers. We arnt talking dirt tracks and few hills, i mean pretty serious 4wding, not dirt roads and lil hill with a few ruts.
I do believe the hilux/cruisers will eat the Nissan because they do and i have seen it. The newer patrols are a vast improvement over the earlier model <GQ, but still no comparison to cruisers IMO.
My dad never had problems with his,4runner, 80 series, or his 60 series cruiser, but his mates all had problems with thier patrols.
He has a factory twin LSD setup in his 80 and it works really well, doesnt need aftermarket lockers. His front end is perfect no problems, and its been through alot of stress. What makes big difference also was he changed all diff and manual trans fluids to fully synthetic, work alot better and more smoother.
i've seen many 4wd videos, been on many trips and read many articles for these two 4wd's and my opionion is Toyota is better than the Nissan.
Theres no point me going any deeper into this subject as obviously we have different views I think its best to agree to disagree before it gets ugly. You can stick to Nissan 4WD's and I'll stick to toyota 4WD's...

We will have to agree to disagree. From my daily experince the opposite is true. The only cruiser that I would take bush in a troopy. The new 100 series is a ladies shoping cart. The last cruiser that was any good was the 80 series.

Cheers.

[Green X]

Factory Twin LSD set up on the 80, Mate I have talked to a lot of Toyota nut’s and I have never heard of a Factory twin LSD set up and even if there was they would still suck> Toyota LSD are Chit and have a life of 40,000k and the Most and there diffs are week, Most Toyota drivers will admit that the Nissan driveline is better.

Don’t believe me go out and do a Snatch recovery in revers in a 100 series and listen for the bag of the front diff, was talking to a guy the other day who is on his 3rd Diff in his 100 series and they all went bang wile out 4Wding.

He may Have Factory fitted Front and Rear Lockers in the 80 thou.

I would take a GQ Patrol over a Cruiser any day.