meat rip off

[bob 351]

just heard that farmers are getting a $1 a kilo wholesale yet we the puplic are paying up to $12 to $18 kilo this realy ****es me of

[Sapper]

I agree mate. Thats why my whole family now do minimal shopping at major supermarket chains like Woolworths and Coles. I don't know if this helps our farmers, but you get better foods by shopping at butchers and fruit markets. If anyone knows a company that gives our farmers a better go, let us know!

[xdclevo]

Yeeh, i had a good conversation with a farmer customer of mine the other day. There is some politics in that game for sure.
Too many teeth, deformed horn, too fat, too skinny and they get bugger all per KG.

[Polyal]

Its like an industry, if you are in the trade you get discounts.

Although I did buy some beef eye fillet tonight, $11.00 for two tiny bits was a bit harsh. Scotch Fillet was on special though, only $35 for a tray containing 8 pieces...LOL

[EBFalcs]

the farmers don't have enough feed for the animals and have to get them butchered, and get taken advantge of, by the butchers

[EBII Fairmont]

Well things are only going to get worse, since butchers are to be scrapped out of Coles stores, goes the rumour, and for it all to come in packaged.

My parents do the best thing. Every friday they go to the vic market, and use the supermarket for the other things which can't be found at the makret. Also, if you become friends with the butcher, they will hold onto the good pieces of meat for you, regardless of who comes in before you.

[bob 351]

Originally Posted by EBFalcs

the farmers don't have enough feed for the animals and have to get them butchered, and get taken advantge of, by the butchers

yea thats what it comes down to these days kick a good man while he's down the only problem with that is alot of them never recover what ever happened to the ole aussie spirit of giving a bloke a hand when he needs it

[Longreach]

Not to through a spanner in the works, but from my experience with the beef industry in WA its not that dire. Sure the margin between live weight p/kg and cut meat on a tray in coles is huge yes, but there are plenty of steps that must be taken to get the meat from the farms loading ramp, to the check out.
Alot of weight is lost purely in the slaughter of the animal, the difference between live weight and dressed weight of a carcass is quite considerable. Not to mention the animals that go for $1/kg are generrally the poorer quaility animals.

There are more facts to weigh up from both sides, and i understand farmers are having troubles but there are more people in play in the industry than just farmers and coles.

[bob 351]

lets all go to maca's and buy burger chips coke and whatever else for $5 come on now they would throw the burger in for free with the price of beef being $1 kilo would'nt they

[Longreach]

The price of beef isn't $1/kg.
Abattoir staff must be paid
Transport costs
The fact that not every kilo of the animal is used able meat, the stomache contents plus bone make up a huge amount of an animals weight..
Plus other factors i'm sure i've missed

[blueoval]

I am carnivorous. But it annoys me that big chains dont support our local farmers more instead. I mean its not hard to be fair is it, or isnt that profitable?

[MO]

Listen to the Country hour on ABC AM you will learn heaps.

[bob 351]

Originally Posted by Longreach

The price of beef isn't $1/kg.
Abattoir staff must be paid
Transport costs
The fact that not every kilo of the animal is used able meat, the stomache contents plus bone make up a huge amount of an animals weight..
Plus other factors i'm sure i've missed

well then the news must be wrong of coures or i must of heard them say the price of beef is $1 kilo o sorry i must be deaf sorry what did you say lol

[MO]

Originally Posted by bob 351

well then the news must be wrong of coures or i must of heard them say the price of beef is $1 kilo o sorry i must be deaf sorry what did you say lol

Is all dependant on the sale yard locality.

[Dazza XLT]

Originally Posted by bob 351

just heard that farmers are getting a $1 a kilo wholesale yet we the puplic are paying up to $12 to $18 kilo this realy ****es me of

Current prices around here are around $1.70/kg for No.5 Steers, and around $1.90/kg for No.6 Steers. Liveweight prices. Domestic Markets either through private sales, or a bit more through the saleyards.
Roma Saleyards holds a weekly store sale, and a Prime Sale, which meatworks buyers frequent.
For the 28/11/06 Store Sale Rates- http://www.maranoa.org.au/sale/Roma%...le%20Rates.doc
For the 23/11/06 Prime Sale Rates- http://www.maranoa.org.au/sale/Fat%20Sale%20Rates.doc
Both in Word Format.

I can confirm these tomorrow if you like, and also post the rough conversion rate for over the hooks prices that the meat processors work on.

Sheep were/are being sold in NSW for $1/head. They were severely drought affected stock, which most farmers could not hold onto any longer. Not much meat available there. All skin and bone.
Most of the meat you see in Woolworths is prime fat lamb, which are currently selling for around $70/Head.

My best advice, shop at a local Butcher, not at Woolworths.
I pay $6.99 for Teys Brothers Whole Rumps, sliced free!

Cheers

[Dazza XLT]

Originally Posted by MO

Listen to the Country hour on ABC AM you will learn heaps.

Agreed. I always tune in.

Cheers

[blueoval]

yeah Im all for supporting our local butchers and the like.

[fmc351]

Local butcher, local green grocer. Its unfortunate they will have to disappear before most people realise their importance. When theyre gone, we will know all about it.

its not just cost either, the quality of supermarket product looks good, but tastes god awful by comparison.

to make a comparison, I have been eating 'free range' eggs for years. I actually buy those vegetarian eggs, yeah I know, but its the chooks that are the vegetarians ( i buy em because they are free of anti-biotics and hormones and crap). Anyway, a mate has chooks and I get my eggs from him now, man what a difference. It was like 'hey I remember eggs'.

[flappist]

Not as big a rip off as cars....

Iron ore $20/tonne that makes a new GT-P cost price $40.....

[Ives]

40-Dollar GT-P ?

tell me more...

[merlin]

The meat has to be cut up, refrigerated, transported, packaged, then sold (think infrastructure, staff, rents, salaries ect.) and then still turn a profit (supermarkets are a business not a charity).

I still think its a rip off and only buy meat from my local butcher but I just think there is more too it than a current affairs shows lead on.

[Amber]

Just to expand on this a bit...

Well things are only going to get worse, since butchers are to be scrapped out of Coles stores, goes the rumour, and for it all to come in packaged.

While I was doing my weekly shopping @ Coles the other night, I noticed a man stocking the meat Dept, who dropped this box, and meat went everywhere. If it wasn't bad enough he was getting them out of cardboard boxes, he was opening said boxes with a stanley knife!!

It worries me, as a consumer, that we don't know the history of these boxes, so I'll pay extra at my local butcher to make sure I get fresh cut meat.

[FordFan86]

mmm this is where I miss living in Victoria... My best mates parents owned a dairy farm (their grandad run it) = free milk straight from the cow, couldn't beat that... and his parents worked at an abbatoirs = free meat.
Not to mention all the fun it was playing in sheds full of hay bails and running around a huge complex that killed things haahah.

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by xdclevo

Yeeh, i had a good conversation with a farmer customer of mine the other day. There is some politics in that game for sure.
Too many teeth, deformed horn, too fat, too skinny and they get bugger all per KG.

That's a good description of the average politician, if you leave out the last three words.

[cArSiK]

Originally Posted by flappist

Not as big a rip off as cars....

Iron ore $20/tonne that makes a new GT-P cost price $40.....

hahaha with change for a beer!

[OLDFORDNUT]

the real supermarket rip off is fruit and vegies.
potatoes have been between $2.20 and $3.00 for over 7 years here in Hervey bay, each time i ask why prices are so hi its either the drougt or the floods, i watched an SBS show about 6 years ago when potatoes were over $2.50 a kilo here that siad the farmers were near the end of there woolworths contracts. that were $.17 (yes 17 cents a kilo)for all there crop that year,i never brought another vegie from woolies unless we really needed them for tea that night after that.
is there any farmers on here who can confirm the price's the big supermarkets actually pay now for vegies?

[bob 351]

why dont we all have a revolution oop's i should'nt say things like that lol

[Sapper]

Originally Posted by Longreach

The price of beef isn't $1/kg.
Abattoir staff must be paid
Transport costs
The fact that not every kilo of the animal is used able meat, the stomache contents plus bone make up a huge amount of an animals weight..
Plus other factors i'm sure i've missed

Very true. However, look at the profits that Woolworths and Coles are currently making. Its not as if they're stretched to cover these costs.

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by EBII Fairmont

Well things are only going to get worse, since butchers are to be scrapped out of Coles stores, goes the rumour, and for it all to come in packaged.

The guy I live with is a butcher at Coles and he's told me the same thing repeatedly.

It's only a matter of when now...

[4.9 EF Futura]

So if you dont like what the supermarket has to offer, dont shop there. Fairly simple.

Personally, i like the convinience. Grab my milk, food, veggies and meat - go to the checkout, swipe the card and i'm done.

Although it's not like i have a choice. Most of my shopping is done on the way home from work. By 7.30 at night, the local butcher is long gone. Which is just great. Woolies is open til 9pm every night of the working week.

I wont apologise for not using a local butcher if he/she isnt open when i go shopping.