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Old 20-08-2006, 12:31 PM   #1
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I know there have been threads about this before but the point needs to be made again.

Yesterday morning two of my friends passed away when their Commodore rolled and burst into flames.

The vehicle load of boys was travelling to Toowoomba when they blew a tyre, causing the car to roll, clip a tree and burst into flames. The two boys were killed instantly, while the other three escaped with severe burns.

The car was travelling at 155 kph.

There is nothing that can be done for the lives of Marcus and Jamie, but had the driver been doing the posted speed limit, maybe, just maybe, there could have been a very different outcome.

Rest In Peace guys, we will never forget you.

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Old 20-08-2006, 12:39 PM   #2
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That's awful mate. Its never a good thing when people die, but when it could plainly have been avoided and the car brought under control they may still have had a fighting chance and that's the stupid thing.
Condolences to the families. Another two regrettable fatalaties.

I hope you're coping okay.
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Old 20-08-2006, 12:41 PM   #3
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condolances mate.... i saw it on the news....

i dont want to take this off topic but why is it that every seccond commodore you see crashed bursts into flames..........
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Old 20-08-2006, 12:45 PM   #4
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Im sorry to hear about your mate may they R.I.P and let this message keep on passing throughtout all generation of drivers out there
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Old 20-08-2006, 03:41 PM   #5
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Sorry to hear about your loss Peuty.
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Old 20-08-2006, 03:49 PM   #6
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yes sorry to hear about that mate, my mate crashed hes girlfriends skyline this morning, lucky no one was hurt, so yeh kinda enforces the need to drive safely
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Old 20-08-2006, 03:50 PM   #7
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sorry to hear about this hope your doing ok

my condolances go out to the family and friends of these 2 guys

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Old 20-08-2006, 03:50 PM   #8
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I know there have been threads about this before but the point needs to be made again.

Yesterday morning two of my friends passed away when their Commodore rolled and burst into flames.

Daniel.
Sorry for your loss Daniel.

My investigative side would be curious as to 'why' the tyre burst in the first place, and if it was of retreaded, regrooved construction or similar-? And what pressure was it originally? I know this is not something you can answer, so these are not questions 'directed' per se.

Many crashes that occur involve in particular low tyre pressure (underinflation) as part of the crash contributory factor list. At speed, such tyres run particularly hot and the sidewalls are subject to failure, and on some tyres tread seperation leading to failure.

Whilst at illegal speed for QLD, don't make the mistake that 'the limit represents the safe speed for the prevailing circumstance', it can and it can't, since this, 'safe speed' is a constant variable. Had they been at the limit, the crash severity will of course have been less, but still potentially fatal. Many factors come into play.

Talk it through sport and good luck.
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Old 20-08-2006, 04:48 PM   #10
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oh ****... my condolences to the family, this stuff is terrible n cuts me up....


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Old 20-08-2006, 05:13 PM   #11
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Mate condolences to all that knew them, and hope they can one day come to terms with it.

I would also like to remind people that certain tyres can only handle certain speeds - In my life I have had 2 tyre delaminate on me, thank god that it wasn't while travelling at those speeds, the thing I am not to proud of was that the process may have started while I was at those speeds (we all did things we shouldn't have done when we were young I suppose).
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Old 20-08-2006, 05:20 PM   #12
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Terrible news.

I too would be interested to know what caused the tyre to blow. I have a lot of trouble convincing my housemate to check her tyre pressures. She just doesn't have any idea of how dangerous a semi flat tyre can be.
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sorry to hear,these things are never easy,my condolances to the family and friends of the 2 ... 155..damn
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likewise, sorry to hear of your loss, and ours; any death diminishes the rest of our lives in some way
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Old 20-08-2006, 07:00 PM   #15
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Sorry to hear of your lost.

Like Keepleft said, what made the tyre blow out? Tyres are rated around 200!!
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Old 20-08-2006, 07:15 PM   #16
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It is still unclear as to why the tyre's blew, but as Keepleft said, I wouldn't be surprised if the tyres were under-inflated.

Thanks for the kind words guys.

I spoke to Marcus' mum this morning, who is a firm believer in the afterlife, and she assures us that he and Jamie are definatley in a better place. Regardless of what one's beliefs are, its still comforting to 'know".

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Old 20-08-2006, 10:25 PM   #17
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Sorry to hear of your loss.

It only further emphasises the necessity at driving safely and going no faster than the maximum speed limit.

Due to irresponsibility, now many people will suffer. I lost one of my friends (through suicide mind you) and it wasn't the fact that he was gone that sucked. It was the fact that he left 2 sisters behind and a ****load of friends who would have helped.

Be there for each other. Relive the good times. And never forget what they meant to you.
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Old 20-08-2006, 10:29 PM   #18
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I know there have been threads about this before but the point needs to be made again.

Yesterday morning two of my friends passed away when their Commodore rolled and burst into flames.

The vehicle load of boys was travelling to Toowoomba when they blew a tyre, causing the car to roll, clip a tree and burst into flames. The two boys were killed instantly, while the other three escaped with severe burns.

The car was travelling at 155 kph.

There is nothing that can be done for the lives of Marcus and Jamie, but had the driver been doing the posted speed limit, maybe, just maybe, there could have been a very different outcome.

Rest In Peace guys, we will never forget you.

Daniel.
Sorry for your loss.

Is the driver OK? If he did survive, he has to live with this for the rest of his life - I know I would rather be dead than know I was responsible for a mate's death.
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Its always sad to hear of another sensless death on our roads. My condolences to the family and friends of the boys.
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heard about this on the radio yesturday arvo, i have family that travel around the darling downs and it always frightens me that it could be someone i know.

Sorry about the loss of your mates, it is a true shame. Sadly those roads arent built for that kind of speed and it could have only taken a pothole to cause it.
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Sorry to hear of your sad loss. I saw the car on the news tonight. It looks like its a miracle that anyone got out at all. The next few days are going to be tough. All the best.
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Sorry for your loss.

Is the driver OK? If he did survive, he has to live with this for the rest of his life - I know I would rather be dead than know I was responsible for a mate's death.
He has injuries...and if it is his fault he will have to live with it...if it isnt though how would you feel?

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Those words are a bit harsh at the moment JC as they dont know if it was driver error or something else...so it might be a good idea to edit your post.

Good point, but i think 155kph is driver error.
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Those words are a bit harsh at the moment JC as they dont know if it was driver error or something else...so it might be a good idea to edit your post.
Done - now you better edit my quote in your post.
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Good point, but i think 155kph is driver error.
Condolences either way
from what i heard on the news he was travelling that speed to pass a truck....but yeah...155kph is a bit fast.
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Very saddened for your lose. And you are right about the speed, can't help but pass comment to people on the condition of there vehicles also. this too plays an even part in all our safe travel on the roads.

Once again sorry you lost your buddies. My condolences to all involved in this terrible time.
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sorry to hear your loss i think people need to respect the feelings of others before posting comments about speed, blown tyres , speed , lives lost =lives shattered(ps first time poster loooong time looker dont flame me)
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condolances mate.... i saw it on the news....

i dont want to take this off topic but why is it that every seccond commodore you see crashed bursts into flames..........
That what i ask myself. Every second crash in WA involves commodore drivers. Why i can not understand!

Condolence to the loss one. Hope your doing alright. I know how you feel as i been down that path.

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Why do some always need to highlight a brand in accidents ??.

There was some years back when i was much younger a accident, This was in Melton.
A car full of 15-18 year olds. My cousin was sitting in the back seat of this car 20 min before it crashed. She was lucky she had women problems at the time and she got really sick and had to go home, This car was travailing at around 200kp/h when it hit a part of the freeway that kind of roes up, Bottom out very hard and went off the road, Into a freeway sign and split into many parts.
4 died on impact only one survived the accident he was wearing a seat belt and was thrown from the car away. A young girl ridding in the back who lost her life was very close to me you never forget your first love because it's the best feeling and if it ends can be the worst feeling. You don't expect things like this to happen.

My condolence to you the best thing is to stick with your family and talk try not to be alone a great deal to much time to think. Best wishes to your mates family also.
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