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02-12-2016, 11:23 PM | #1 | ||
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I've decided I want a 351 XE ESP manual so if you see one going let me know thanks
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02-12-2016, 11:46 PM | #2 | ||
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I have lost count of how many times i see a wanted post on FB for a factory V8 ESP, so seems you have company
One of my favourite Falcons of all time. |
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03-12-2016, 12:08 AM | #3 | |||
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If you are keen to travel I can find out if it is still available as I still have the contact details of the person that was selling it. What is your budget?? Happy to inspect it for you and get photos if it's still around, it's about an hour from me.
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03-12-2016, 08:04 AM | #4 | ||
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They are starting to get fairly crazy in price now. There was one in Unique Cars a couple of months back for nearly 80 large. I paid under 20 for mine back in 2009 which now seems like a wise investment.
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03-12-2016, 01:35 PM | #5 | ||
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If they are worth that much I might grab the one at Moree for myself, was pretty mint for a LOT less than 80K. I might contact the guy regardless and take it for a test drive...then to convince the missus that I need another V8.
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03-12-2016, 02:06 PM | #6 | ||
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G'day...Never (obviously owned ESP..but owned an XE for several years)..
All I know is the XE shape is a really classy one..Mine was a 4 speed manual but with the 4.1 crossy 6...Only issue in five years before I traded on a Telstar Ghia was 'saggy bloody doors'..I had a real close look at the ESP a couple of years ago at a Tassie car show and they still look the goods..One of the real lookers for sure and a real goer too...Good luck getting a nice one soon..and we'll want some pictures of her to show her off...Cheers Rod.. |
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03-12-2016, 02:27 PM | #7 | ||
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Just went through some of my stuff, the one at Moree was a XD ESP not an XE
What is a good matching numbers factory 4 speed 351 XD ESP worth these days??
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03-12-2016, 05:30 PM | #9 | ||
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Agree with QIKESP - my XD was only the 4.1 4spd Falcon version but I still miss it today!! Just a good cruiser with the Scheel seats and the Bilstein suspension - the manual steering was a bit of a pig though (16:1 ratio) but it wasn't too bad once the car was moving
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03-12-2016, 07:01 PM | #11 | ||
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03-12-2016, 08:24 PM | #12 | ||
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They look pretty tough but that monster 149kw 351 HAHAHAHA.
f course plenty of untapped potential if you ignore emission. |
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03-12-2016, 09:04 PM | #13 | ||
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At least 30 grand now. If it is A1, closer to 40.
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03-12-2016, 09:15 PM | #14 | ||
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Some interesting information here:
They recon only 300 XD ESP's build and 178 351 4 speed XE and one 351 Auto XE. https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/b...lcon-xd-xe-esp XD had Globes, XE had snowflakes.
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03-12-2016, 09:26 PM | #15 | ||
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03-12-2016, 09:36 PM | #17 | ||
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Never heard of the Iron headed 6 cylinder ESP - it has always been thought that the ESP was released to coincide with the Alloy Head upgrade in 1980. But what is mentioned in that story answers why my Falcon ESP had black Fairmont door trims (mix of vinyl and cloth / carpet) All the time I owned it (just over 20 years) I always wondered if the previous owner had installed them.
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03-12-2016, 10:36 PM | #18 | ||
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I think it was was late 1984 I walked into Denmac Ford in Qld and bought an i6 XE Fairmont demonstrator at a really good price because it was a manual.
On the showroom floor was the silver ESP 4.9 auto that became the stuff of legends as it was supposed to be the last one or last V8 or something. Don't know what happened to it after Denmac later went into receivership. |
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04-12-2016, 01:45 PM | #19 | ||
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XE much better car though with better rear suspension. But yeah I certainly wasn't thinking 80 large lol. I would never pay that much for any Aussie muscle, not for how cheap you can get some awesome American iron. I can believe ask stupid money for them but don;t believe they sell for that money. Same as the silly prices for all the FG GTs on Carsales etc. bet not one of them is selling.
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04-12-2016, 03:21 PM | #20 | |||
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the Fairmonts had the "S pack" option, the Fairmont Ghias had the "ESP" option pack Our (AFF) Brochure scan sections have more info regarding these, yes there never was an iron head 6 cylinder ESP. The XDs (once the link is open, click on the page for a better view) http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/....php?photo=134 http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/....php?photo=137 The XEs http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/....php?photo=158 |
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04-12-2016, 04:01 PM | #21 | |||
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XD ESP was available as a falcon or fairmont with option 54 my mate bought a brand new 79 falcon 351 4 speed ESP back in the day.
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04-12-2016, 04:02 PM | #22 | ||
more cubes please...
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Mine is a matching numbers XE S-PAC 351. I'm told there were 423 of them with somewhere near 400 going out as GL chasers to the cops and the remaining couple of dozen going as S-packs into private hands. I know it's not an ESP but I'm told there aren't many of the S-pack 351s left.
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04-12-2016, 05:45 PM | #23 | ||
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One of my dream cars as well, but unfortunately their value is skyrocketing at the moment. Only a few years ago the usual asking price was $40k for a good one, but now I'm seeing stuff like this;
http://www.musclecarstables.com.au/details.php?id=780 $76kono! Pretty sure they had $80k on it a few weeks ago, so these asking prices are not always a good indication of what they actually go for, but still... Pretty sure an offer of $40k wouldn't get you far. |
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04-12-2016, 05:47 PM | #24 | ||
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Brilliant taste. Red and black w/ gold alloys would be mint.
Side note: If anyone sees an '87 302w F100 4spd going, I'd love to know. |
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04-12-2016, 07:22 PM | #25 | |||
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the Fairmonts had the "S pack" option, the Fairmont Ghias had the "ESP" option pack In my post, I said that my Falcon ESP had Fairmont Door trims - never said anything about S Pack Our (AFF) Brochure scan sections have more info regarding these, yes there never was an iron head 6 cylinder ESP. Sorry but this is the only thing I agree with you about
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04-12-2016, 08:14 PM | #26 | ||
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04-12-2016, 08:36 PM | #27 | |||
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The problem is that every knucklehead with a busted **** 300,000km rusted out POS ESP also thinks their car is worth $80K. |
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04-12-2016, 09:32 PM | #29 | ||
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How much on top of their game were Ford Australia when they came up with the XE ESP?
4.1 EFI / 4.9 / 5.8 V8's. The Ghia options were fantastic - rear headrests combined with speakers. Cool stereo sound system, upmarket fabrics. Snowflake alloys, full dashboard of goodies. Love them. |
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