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Old 06-07-2016, 05:23 PM   #1
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Cool Two engines spliced together?

How are two engines put together, like the V12 LS1, Aston Martin V12 ( two ford duratecs), Deevel V16 etc are they welded with a bespoke crank/ camgear? or does the block have to be made from scratch?

Call me an idiot but today I'm fantasising about the idea of a Retrotech XK Falcon with two 1.0 Ecoboost blocks fused together to make a 2.0-litre inline 6 and some kind of freevalve camless running gear, MX-5 6-speed manual converted to run on column shift and a GKN rear diff like the Focus RS. I always have the coolest ideas!
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:05 PM   #2
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That's an option, you can always do what Bugatti did with the U-16 engine though
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:17 PM   #3
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The LS1 V12 is welded and sleeved, the AM V12's were new casts.

You're particular idea wouldn't work, you would need to take a pair of I4's and cut a front/rear off respectively.
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:55 PM   #4
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Call me an idiot but today I'm fantasising about the idea of a Retrotech XK Falcon with two 1.0 Ecoboost blocks fused together to make a 2.0-litre inline 6 ...!
You're an idiot

That's way too hard

Use a 300ci Ford six with LS head(s) glued together. But please use efi - stoopid mericans and their carbies.



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[edit]damn, that image is bigger than I hoped for.



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Old 06-07-2016, 09:02 PM   #5
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Whoa that is a beautiful freak of nature!!
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I have often wondered if you could graft two Barras together to make a 8.0lt V12?
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I have often wondered if you could graft two Barras together to make a 8.0lt V12?
Damn. I'm to slow. That's what I was thinking.
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Old 07-07-2016, 06:18 AM   #8
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Somebody made a Toyota V12 from 2 I6's so it's possible, but I'm sure it's harder
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_V8

Triumph welded two slant 4 cylinder engines together to create this so it can be done... however if this example is anything to go by, it shouldn't be done.
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That engine is not welded, it is recast just like the AM V12.
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there have been a few bike engine joined, i have seen a 1300cc hyabusa made into a v8 and a 500cc 2 stroke single cyl engine joined to make a v-twin 1000cc.
i never saw then run but i saw pics of the builds....imagine a 1000cc 2 stroke!!
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That engine is not welded, it is recast just like the AM V12.
Well either way, it's still a terrible design.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_V8

Triumph welded two slant 4 cylinder engines together to create this so it can be done... however if this example is anything to go by, it shouldn't be done.
LOL its not often you read about an engine on WIKI and it has a paragraph on Issues..

Could be why old Triumph Stags are not worth big Bucks
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Old 07-07-2016, 01:03 PM   #14
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LOL its not often you read about an engine on WIKI and it has a paragraph on Issues..
Yeah, it's quite absurd really.

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Could be why old Triumph Stags are not worth big Bucks
I've heard their general build quality was hit and miss. I don't know first hand though, I have no interest in that type of car.
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Yeah, it's quite absurd really.



I've heard their general build quality was hit and miss. I don't know first hand though, I have no interest in that type of car.

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LOL its not often you read about an engine on WIKI and it has a paragraph on Issues..

Could be why old Triumph Stags are not worth big Bucks
My cousin's owned one since new. He loves the effing thing.

I think he's weird.
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My cousin's owned one since new. He loves the effing thing.

I think he's weird.
I had one until I killed the engine - it was awesome while it lasted!
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Detroit Diesel V12 and V16 engines (149 ci per cylinder) were made of two V6 or V8 engines. Two blocks and cranks bolted end to end, eight cams, two cam drives, one water and fuel pump.
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The Volkswagen W12 engine in the Phaeton was basically two Golf VR6s.

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i believe the hyabusa (Suzuki road bike) engine was chopped up and joined back together to make a 2.6 v8, and then was the inspiration behind the early Arial atom v8 with 500bhp.
didn,t jack bratham build a v8 from two peugeot four cylinder engines?

to the op, would the cranks hold up?
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Detroit Diesel V12 and V16 engines (149 ci per cylinder) were made of two V6 or V8 engines. Two blocks and cranks bolted end to end, eight cams, two cam drives, one water and fuel pump.
correct me if im wrong i think they also did them in the smaller detroits too , the little brother to the 8v92 (8 cylinders / v configuration 92 cubes per cyl) ,, ah......its coming to me , the 871 , the old detroits very good for interchangeability of parts and daisy chaining .
sound of 2 stroke GM = amazing .
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Detroit Diesel V12 and V16 engines (149 ci per cylinder) were made of two V6 or V8 engines. Two blocks and cranks bolted end to end, eight cams, two cam drives, one water and fuel pump.

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cant be too hard https://www.google.com.au/search?q=t...w=1126&bih=463
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I have often wondered if you could graft two Barras together to make a 8.0lt V12?
That would be the ultimate weapon. 400kw, 900nm naturally aspirated or 550kw, 1200nm of torque with standard boost. Simple to service, maintain and using normal engine oil and fuel. Where do I sign? Would probably be more powerful and durable than a Bugatti Veyron W16 engine, maybe even more economical too.
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The tricky part would be reversing one of the heads
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Oh man i hope some backyard mettallurgist lunatic brings that demon to life!!! Puts it in something evil like a Fury Road car.
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That would be the ultimate weapon. 400kw, 900nm naturally aspirated or 550kw, 1200nm of torque with standard boost. Simple to service, maintain and using normal engine oil and fuel. Where do I sign? Would probably be more powerful and durable than a Bugatti Veyron W16 engine, maybe even more economical too.
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