Drag race : Tesla Model S P85D v V8 Supercar v Walkinshaw W507

[uniacidz]

Interesting

Supercheap Auto Racing’s V8 Supercar racer takes on the world’s fastest four-door production car in a drag race of historic proportions.

In this gig, we motoring journos are often driven to pitch story ideas that we know will never get off the ground. It’s a built-in compulsion. So, when we asked the lads at Supercheap Auto Racing if they’d be interested in a drag race, we didn’t think there’d be much chance of it ever happening.



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http://www.caradvice.com.au/386305/d...lkinshaw-w507/

[Yellow_Festiva]

Wow... ludricous indeed ;-)

[Crazy Dazz]

My job is easier. With the car in Insane Mode (the maximum current draw from the batteries) and creep set to ‘off’, all I would need to do is let go of the pedals and hit the loud pedal for its full complement of torque

So, basically cheating by using launch control and traction control?

[Sabantien]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Wow... ludricous indeed ;-)

For when Light Speed is too slow.

[irish2]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

So, basically cheating by using launch control and traction control?

Not really cheating if that is what the car is fitted with. On the other hand it can only achieve it a couple of times before the battery needs a cool down. That is why you never see track figures for the Tesla.

[Brazen]

Electric is the future, if someone wanted to make a huge business buy the Commodore factory and make electric RWD sedans, wagons and limos

[Pedro]

One of the reasons the Tesla accelerates so fast is because electric motors develop maximum torque from zero.

[MITCHAY]

Wow that's impressive. As much as I like tech, I'd never take an electric car over a V8 petrol while I have a choice. That is passion that leads me. No soul or character whatsoever in a Tesla despite how good it is. Unfortunately petrol will be gone soon enough and we will have to adapt.

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Wow that's impressive. As much as I like tech, I'd never take an electric car over a V8 petrol while I have a choice. That is passion that leads me. No soul or character whatsoever in a Tesla despite how good it is.

I thought that till I drove a... Nissan Leaf.

I actually think internal combustion engines are the characterless boring option. Having to rev an engine to get the performance is boring, the instant binary reaction of electric is addictive. Instant torque is laugh-inducing, if you love the smoothness and grunt off the line of a Falcon I6 then you will love electric.

[mik]

Originally Posted by Pedro

One of the reasons the Tesla accelerates so fast is because electric motors develop maximum torque from zero.

I don't know how much of that i torque figure is truth, while they say it has no gears, I believe the Tesla still has a reduction ratio of 9 to 1 , please correct me if I'm wrong.

[uniacidz]

Originally Posted by Brazen

I thought that till I drove a... Nissan Leaf.

I actually think internal combustion engines are the characterless boring option. Having to rev an engine to get the performance is boring, the instant binary reaction of electric is addictive. Instant torque is laugh-inducing, if you love the smoothness and grunt off the line of a Falcon I6 then you will love electric.

Ha i would prob get the giggles more so if there was a V8 sound in the stereo speakers that matched the revs of the acceleration of the Leaf.



The Tesla is good for what it is for yes a small amount of time on the track, yes petrol will win of course due to being able to run constantly until fuel runs out but the Tesla has shown alot of potential

If only was cheaper for the masses.

[Falcon Coupe]

Motoring Journalists just love leaning on cars...

[barnz_xr8]

they say that the v8 supercar uses a cast iron 308 block??? lolol

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by barnz_xr8

they say that the v8 supercar uses a cast iron 308 block??? lolol

Are you talking about the capacity of the V8 supercar motors? Yes they are all 5.0 liter motors. Not bad they can pump 600HP of N/A power from 5.0 liters.

[uniacidz]

Originally Posted by barnz_xr8

they say that the v8 supercar uses a cast iron 308 block??? lolol

They do

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/champi...ehicle-details






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[SumoDog68]

Originally Posted by barnz_xr8

they say that the v8 supercar uses a cast iron 308 block??? lolol

Which is correct :-).

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Are you talking about the capacity of the V8 supercar motors? Yes they are all 5.0 liter motors. Not bad they can pump 600HP of N/A power from 5.0 liters.

I am more impressed with a road going 4.0 flat 6 NA factory engine getting 500hp. Reliable enough for street and track.

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by Wretched

I am more impressed with a road going 4.0 flat 6 NA factory engine getting 500hp. Reliable enough for street and track.

Where can we find such a beast?

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Where can we find such a beast?

Porsche GT3 RS

[Pedro]

Originally Posted by mik

I don't know how much of that i torque figure is truth, while they say it has no gears, I believe the Tesla still has a reduction ratio of 9 to 1 , please correct me if I'm wrong.

Tesla torque graph ... http://www.velvetron.com/blog/wp-con...orquegraph.jpg

Check out the "Zombie 222" electric Mustang - does 0 - 60 mph in under 2 seconds ... http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/el...pecs-pictures/

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by irish2

Not really cheating if that is what the car is fitted with.

Except they obviously turned if OFF in the Walkinshaw...

It's also fundamentally stupid to have an "insane" mode, which has no practical application except to allow them to mislead people with regards to performance.
Imagine the same "mode" on the Walkinshaw. It would allow you to put out 800kw, but only for 60 seconds or the engine would explode.

[Crazy Dazz]

A 200kw petrol engine (or 300kw or 500kw) will keep putting out 200kw all day long, every day, week after week, provided its got petrol.
However an electric motor's power, to put it every simply, is dictated by the electric power put in. You can easily double the power, simply by quadrupling the voltage. We used to have great fun with this in the physics labs, until the motors started to melt and catch fire.
So getting 1,000kw of power in a car petrol engine, is still an outstanding automotive feat. Whereas any idiot could juice a 1,000kw into an electric motor, even a relatively small motor for a brief period. ie "insane mode."

Of course the other big question is the ability to sustain that power.
If I built a 1,000kw "super car" that could only be driven a few miles before running out of petrol (ie "insane mode") I really would be labelled "insane"

[Express]

Originally Posted by barnz_xr8

they say that the v8 supercar uses a cast iron 308 block??? lolol

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Are you talking about the capacity of the V8 supercar motors? Yes they are all 5.0 liter motors. Not bad they can pump 600HP of N/A power from 5.0 liters.

Originally Posted by uniacidz

They do

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/champi...ehicle-details

Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Which is correct :-).

I see in that link from uniacidz that it says it’s a 308 engine.

I always thought the 308ci was 5044cc which is over the 5 litre cut-off.

That’s why back in 1985 the engine was reduced to a 304ci which is 4987cc to get under the 5 litre Group A engine capacity cut-off.

The 304ci then replaced the 308ci in the road going Commodores until it was replaced by the LS1.

Does that mean Holden are over the 5 litre capacity and therefore cheating by using a 308 cu in engine in the V8 Supercars?

Or do they just refer to it as a 308 so as not to confuse the old school Holden fans as the link doesn't refer to it as the engine's actual cubic size?

[Brazen]

Interesting video of a guy who took his cheaper non-performance Tesla to the drag strip and did 28 launches

https://youtu.be/hOj54sRI65k

[mik]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Interesting video of a guy who took his cheaper non-performance Tesla to the drag strip and did 28 launches

https://youtu.be/hOj54sRI65k

that looks like 1/8 th mile ?

[mr smith]

I have driven a i3 bmw. Felt as quick as my turbo fg around town. Electric is the future.

[mik]

when battery tech improves they will be better, they are still not as versatile as ice cars.

[uniacidz]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Motoring Journalists just love leaning on cars...

They wouldnt be allowed to lean on mine.

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by mr smith

I have driven a i3 bmw. Felt as quick as my turbo fg around town. Electric is the future.

I remember reading the i3 was BMWs quickest car from 0-30mph, they probably meant against the non M cars though. Electric is quick in traffic conditions.

[Sprintey]

Amazing stuff. Family car, far fewer moving parts, no DSG gearbox to extract 0.05% more efficiency, 100% torque off idle, far lower service cost (and even I can understand the simplicity of stators and rotors) , power it off the sun that falls on the roof, 3.8 or 3.2 second 0-100s...