speeding fine

98fex · 28-05-2010, 12:38 AM

I got a speeding fine today 10 k over $133.00 and 1 point. but you can't see my car in the photo. It's black with a big flash down one side of the photo, is any way out of paying it

dom_105 · 28-05-2010, 01:01 AM

What state are you in.

In any case, don't like your chances.

98fex · 28-05-2010, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dom_105

What state are you in.

In any case, don't like your chances.

Queensland

seduced_xr · 28-05-2010, 03:38 AM

youll have to ring up and organise to go in and see a full colour photo, if you cant see your car in that tell them to stick it.

pottery beige · 28-05-2010, 03:43 AM

stop ya whinging should be happy that speed camera saved your life........

UNR8D · 28-05-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

stop ya whinging should be happy that speed camera saved your life........

Ken Lay? is that you...

Rodp · 28-05-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 98fex

I got a speeding fine today 10 k over $133.00 and 1 point. but you can't see my car in the photo. It's black with a big flash down one side of the photo, is any way out of paying it

How did they identify your car and issue an infringement if they can't see your car in the photo?

RG · 28-05-2010, 08:27 AM

The most important question is were you speeding?

If yes, pay it and cop it on the chin. If no, contest it.

Redrum · 28-05-2010, 08:34 AM

I do not know about Queensland, but in Victoria, if you receive a speeding fine via the Traffic Camera Office and haven't had a fine for a few years, have a pretty good record and the speed is not over 15kmph more than the sign posted speed you can write a letter in admitting your offence and asking for discretion. You address it to the Officer in Charge of the Traffic Camera Office and state in the letter, your details, the day, date and time plus rego of vehicle, when you were caught and then the fact you are sorry and ask for discretion.

Maybe Queensland has something similar.

ZA-289 · 28-05-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

stop ya whinging should be happy that speed camera saved your life........

hahahaha

zdcol71 · 28-05-2010, 09:52 AM

Last Tuesday, got caught doing 82 in a 70 zone. Got ticket and fine.... looking for a punch line ?? There isn't one, end of story.

auxr · 28-05-2010, 10:51 AM

Not worth the hassle, believe me. You certainly can request to view the photo, but with the time spent attending the traffic office, writing a request,driving through traffic etc - the effort and time involved would certainly outway the initial cost of the fine.

As has been previously posted, if you knew you were a bit over the limit, I would suggest copping it on the chin and admit defeat.

auxr · 28-05-2010, 10:55 AM

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Last Tuesday, got caught doing 82 in a 70 zone. Got ticket and fine.... looking for a punch line ?? There isn't one, end of story.

Punch line : I got my Tuesday fix, now I'm ridin with my Friday b**ch.

Lame, I know, but best I could do at this time of the morning

**Falcon Coupe** · 28-05-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

How did they identify your car and issue an infringement if they can't see your car in the photo?

My thoughts exactly.

Care to elaborate 98fex ?

JimNiki · 28-05-2010, 11:20 AM

they got the rego ok, just not his photo.
it doesn't matter, the owner of the vehicle is responsible to:

pay
point the finger at someone else to pay (wife?)
call cops to report it stolen (usually helps to do this before the happy snaps!)

one benefit of driving a company car is that the fine goes to work, they have 28 days to dob you in (give them your drivers license details) and then you get the fine in the mail and you have another 28 days to pay...

I sent a plea letter to get out of paying last month. It got knocked back because they only forgive (sometimes) if you were doing 0-15k over.
I was doing over.

but even though it got knocked back, I got another month to pay!

I reckon the cops should follow Harvey Norman and if we get a fine we pay nothing till 2015!

MAD · 28-05-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RG

The most important question is were you speeding?

If yes, pay it and cop it on the chin. If no, contest it.

Maybe you should rephrase to "were you purposely speeding? If yes, pay it and cop it on the chin"

I've recently copped a fine that I want to contest, but it's hard to do when the only argument you have is a short lapse in concentration. As far as they are concerned you must have been speeding the entire time before the camera took the snap. This is the main reason I think speed cameras are crap is because they only catch what happened in that instant. Speed fluctuation is inevitable, and speed cameras catch it all the time.

The other reason I think speed cameras are crap is because, on top of this, how exactly can a 'safety' camera reduce speeding when it couldnt possibly have stopped me from speeding that day considering that there was nothing to tell me that I had in fact had my photo taken? Hypothetically, I could have continued on at that speed, or even higher, and been involved in an accident, what would the camera have done to stop this? ... send a fine in the mail 3 weeks later?

For the OP, get, or view, a copy of the full resolution photo to see if you think you will be able to contest it. They only need to be able to identify the number plate.

prydey · 28-05-2010, 11:56 AM

i find its reasonably easy to not creep over the limit by not trying to do the exact speed LIMIT. the speed signs are a MAXIMUM allowed speed, not a minimum or a mandated speed you have to do.

if i'm in traffic, i drive accordingly (go with the flow) but if i'm on my own or in light traffic, which is often the case due to shift work, then i just cruise along at my own pace, often a couple of km/h below the limit.

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Originally Posted by RG

The most important question is were you speeding? If yes, pay it and cop it on the chin. If no, contest it.

absolutely. take responsibility for your own actions.... something that is increasingly foreign these days.

RG · 28-05-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MAD

Maybe you should rephrase to "were you purposely speeding? If yes, pay it and cop it on the chin"

No thanks, if you stuff up you stuff up. Just need to cop it and move on.

It may not be fair or right, but it is the way it is.

MAD · 28-05-2010, 12:14 PM

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No thanks, if you stuff up you stuff up. Just need to cop it and move on.

It may not be fair or right, but it is the way it is.

What about these inaccurate and illegally placed speed cameras that have recently been in the media?

see http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11298163
and http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11298175

But if we follow your example, even if its not fair or right, we'll just take it and move on. You could apply a similar reaction to ebay fraud, or even getting the sack for having a religious belief different to that of the employer.

You either roll over for nothing, or you roll over for everything.
Right is right and fair is fair, there is no grey area.

RG · 28-05-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MAD

What about these inaccurate and illegally placed speed cameras that have recently been in the media?

see http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11298163
and http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11298175

But if we follow your example, even if its not fair or right, we'll just take it and move on. You could apply a similar reaction to ebay fraud, or even getting the sack for having a religious belief different to that of the employer.

You either roll over for nothing, or you roll over for everything.
Right is right and fair is fair, there is no grey area.

Considering you said you were actually speeding, even though it was accidental, you were still at fault.

Had the camera been faulty / you had not been speeding / you were rushing to save Bambi from a fire things would be different. You can;t change the facts of an argument to better suit yourself.

Sure cameras are basically just a revenue raiser, my stance on them is well known. When however you know you were in the wrong then there is only one way to go about it IMO. If you've got a good driving record (nothing in the last 3 years) then by all means send a letter to the camera office and state that it was an accident and out of character.

aussie muscle · 28-05-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by auxr

Not worth the hassle, believe me. You certainly can request to view the photo, but with the time spent attending the traffic office, writing a request,driving through traffic etc - the effort and time involved would certainly outway the initial cost of the fine.

As has been previously posted, if you knew you were a bit over the limit, I would suggest copping it on the chin and admit defeat.

That's what they want you to do. why else to they make 400 million a year?

i'd contest it through every possible channel. it's your right to challenge it if you want to.

JimNiki · 28-05-2010, 12:47 PM

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You either roll over for nothing, or you roll over for everything.
Right is right and fair is fair, there is no grey area.

"As long as laws are absolute, there can be no justice!"

Can someone tell me where that comes from? Or am I the only geek!?

**GasoLane** · 28-05-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNiki

"As long as laws are absolute, there can be no justice!"

Can someone tell me where that comes from? Or am I the only geek!?

Google seems to think it came from.... Star Trek: The Next Generation

auxr · 28-05-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aussie muscle

That's what they want you to do. why else to they make 400 million a year?

i'd contest it through every possible channel. it's your right to challenge it if you want to.

That is correct, any person has the right to challenge an infringement, but at the end of the day, if a person knew they were speeding, is the hassle of attempting to find a technicality to get out of paying the fine worth the time and effort spent in trying to do so.

That was the basis of my original post

MAD · 28-05-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

Considering you said you were actually speeding, even though it was accidental, you were still at fault.

I never said I was speeding. The camera says I was speeding. I'm saying I dont know if I was speeding because I didnt lock the reading of the speedo into my mind, for when the fine arrives, because there was no indication at the time that I had been booked. Therefore the only reasonable explanation is that I must have been concentrating on something on the road in front of me and accidentally sped up, because that is a normal characteristic of mine to be aware of what's going on around me. If I dont know otherwise, this must be what I fall back to.

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Had the camera been faulty / you had not been speeding / you were rushing to save Bambi from a fire things would be different. You can;t change the facts of an argument to better suit yourself.

How do I know that camera isnt/wasnt faulty?

Bambi is no excuse.

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Originally Posted by RG

Sure cameras are basically just a revenue raiser, my stance on them is well known. When however you know you were in the wrong then there is only one way to go about it IMO. If you've got a good driving record (nothing in the last 3 years) then by all means send a letter to the camera office and state that it was an accident and out of character.

See point 1, and I do have a good driving record and will be doing just that.

Deebs1990 · 28-05-2010, 01:41 PM

Firstly they say they have clearer photos on the fine, so go in and request to see them, due to your photo being unclear. If they have better photos ie ones showing your license plate your up for the fine. But if none of their photos capture your number plate they can't enfore it due to not knowing who was driving the car (checked under torum). Chances are they have better pictures of your car, and there is no point going to court over $133, the costs outweight the benefits.

flappist · 28-05-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deebs1990

Firstly they say they have clearer photos on the fine, so go in and request to see them, due to your photo being unclear. If they have better photos ie ones showing your license plate your up for the fine. But if none of their photos capture your number plate they can't enfore it due to not knowing who was driving the car (checked under torum). Chances are they have better pictures of your car, and there is no point going to court over $133, the costs outweight the benefits.

Well until you should only have 1 point to go and have to walk instead.......

Auturbo6 · 28-05-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

stop ya whinging should be happy that speed camera saved your life........

LMAO, i love it...........
Ive been told, if u contest u will be let off once, but never again, so ure better off waiting for a proper fine to contest....... Good luck.......

bmorris · 28-05-2010, 02:43 PM

I would try writing a letter with your excuse and send a cheque with the letter. That way you can be lucky and get your money back, otherwise just move on.

JimNiki · 28-05-2010, 03:52 PM

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How do I know that camera isnt/wasnt faulty?

Hehehe ...a mate of mine tried to have a day off work cause his uncle died.
This guy didn't have any sickies left or annual leave cause he took lots of time off...

The company didn't want to pay because bereavement covers direct family only, eg: mother, sister, etc.

He told the HR person, I was very close with my uncle, how do you know that he didn't have sex with my mum and that I'm not he's real son!

The lengths people go to ???!!!