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25-02-2009, 02:56 PM | #1 | |||
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I received this as an email today. Its an interesting look from a Boss' point of view.
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PS. Mods please delete/lock this thread if its a repost
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25-02-2009, 03:03 PM | #2 | ||
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Very good read
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25-02-2009, 03:11 PM | #3 | ||
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Great and a lot of truth in it
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25-02-2009, 03:18 PM | #4 | ||
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spot on
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25-02-2009, 03:26 PM | #5 | ||
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I would say youre boss has just realised, that after all that sacrifice and work over the years is going to come to nothing, because of the economic slow down
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25-02-2009, 03:52 PM | #6 | ||
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i hope he sent it to the government too
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25-02-2009, 03:57 PM | #7 | ||
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Couldn't agree more! God help us (the pollies clearly wont) when we really start to see the effects of this over the next 5 years.
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25-02-2009, 03:58 PM | #8 | ||
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great read
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25-02-2009, 04:29 PM | #9 | ||
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How true that is......
Good read. |
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25-02-2009, 04:45 PM | #10 | ||
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Great post - I've sent it to my boss
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25-02-2009, 04:53 PM | #11 | ||
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Great read, thanks for posting
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25-02-2009, 05:16 PM | #12 | ||
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A Subaru? Bourgeois scum! How very opulent.
Edit: But without taxes, where would else could he parade his golden chariot in clear sight of the drooling plebs? |
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25-02-2009, 05:16 PM | #13 | ||
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Agree but when people stop spending . Everyone suffers..
It takes all sorts to make the word go around.. If everyone was a tightass ?? There would be little money made.. BTW to a point I'm one of them !! According to my family .. Lol..
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25-02-2009, 05:49 PM | #14 | ||
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I don't agree.
If the business can't make a profit after ALL expenses (inc tax and wages) then there's no point to the business. The story is very emotional and not very factual. This is why 99% of people are employees, they're not mad enough to think being an employer is a good thing. I don't see that tax on businesses has changed very significantly at all over the past 5, 10 or even 20 years. If your business can only survive the good times and not the bad, then it's not a viable business and the govt should not be blamed.
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25-02-2009, 06:00 PM | #15 | ||
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Couldnt have said it better myself.
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25-02-2009, 06:12 PM | #16 | |||
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25-02-2009, 06:20 PM | #17 | ||
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The boss that wrote that letter sounds like my father. Always on the go, always thinking about whats next, always tied to his business. Though things have always been like this for small businesses, I don't see why they have to make it harder than it already is?
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25-02-2009, 06:54 PM | #18 | ||
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Sounds like the kitchen just got too hot for someone
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25-02-2009, 06:55 PM | #19 | ||
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The point was that it may all seem like a glamorous life being the boss but more often than not there is a lot of sacrifice behind the scenes and the employees seem to think that the boss can pluck money off a magical money tree.
It's coming from the point of view that bosses don't do anything and have it easy which is completely untrue, again more often than not. People very rarely fall into high paying jobs and at the end of the day the responsibility falls on them. |
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25-02-2009, 07:17 PM | #20 | ||
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Its a very carefully designed emotional piece to get a specific response.
It also uses extreme and very specific examples. Think Kerry Packer was eating baked beans and driving a rusty toyota corolla when he started out? Think the guy earning 50K and doing 38 hours a week was living it up big time when he was doing uni or his apprenticeship? I dont think so. Im sorry, but i just dont see that Buisnesses need tax cuts. Mind you I also disagee with the government giving money away to the general populus which will probably just blow it on useless consumer crap. If the government really wanted to stimulate the economy they would pour the money into infastructure and capital projects. Its a tried and proven method. |
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25-02-2009, 07:57 PM | #21 | ||
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Im buying some defillipo headers and an x-forcee exhaust with my $900 plus obviously my own money. Im stimulating myself with these mods... Who wants my $900 government money and the rest of my 38 hour pay???
On a more serious note (im still buying that stuff), my boss works hard and i dont even like him. But i respect him coz if he didnt do such long hours and and work so hard, he surley would of cut my pay. But he works hard to make him more money too...
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25-02-2009, 08:55 PM | #22 | ||
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Great Read
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25-02-2009, 10:12 PM | #23 | ||
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i enjoyed reading this piece and also some of your responses but i would like to make the point that the previous government handout AND the one some are about to receive are not going to be effective because
1. people are struggling and will use it to pay their mortgage (interest rates have fallen but its too late for it to make a real difference, people are far enough behind already) 2. people are struggling and will use it for petrol, which we are paying too much for, which the government does nothing about 3. people are struggling and choose to buy foreign, cheaper products instead of australian made and/or owned; if people chose such products, the stimulus package would start to take effect if the above are all true (particularly number 3), then this "boss" is correct. australian businesses DO need to be supported. 1. less taxes means they get to take more home and dont have to put their prices up so high as this makes their goods even less accessible to australians compared to cheaper foreign counterparts 2. tariffs need to rise, not fall on foreign goods. im sure everyone is in the know about the car industry crisis are a few obvious things annoy me about it and obviously they will to you. why is it i can buy a hyundai getz far cheaper than i can a focus or festiva or a barina or an astra? i dont think this is right... or maybe the government is the clever one and wishes for us to have crappy cars on the roads so that our mechanics have more work repairing breakdowns? not likely. 3. the government needs to do far more for small businesses, the work is drying up because of the current climate but its not just the trade owners that are suffering, its the apprentices. apprentices are being layed off, young adults fresh out of school cant find apprenticeships, this is australia's future we are playing with. sure, they can go work in retail for a few years and be qualified for what??? they can work at coles or kfc but where will they be in 10 years? 5 years??? yes, it is possible to survive on unskilled labour and yes, it is possible to do quite well, but not for everyone. those people are going to be in the same position as people are now, no money for spending and then we are stuck in exactly the same position we are in now. the government stimulus package ****es me the hell off but i will be thankful for my $900 when i receive it. its going to stay in the bank and be saved for a rainy day because i cant afford to be throwing money around |
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25-02-2009, 10:22 PM | #24 | ||
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Its a worldwide problem and it may get far worse across the world
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25-02-2009, 10:54 PM | #25 | |||
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Your an idiot. The Festiva WAS made in the same country as the Getz but hasn't been sold for a good 8 or so years. Other 3 cars are also built overseas so if the tarrifs were increased the prices of Focus etc would be included.
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25-02-2009, 10:57 PM | #26 | ||
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ok so the post did go through, can a mod delete this one?
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25-02-2009, 11:06 PM | #27 | ||
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i swear to god i just replied to that post maybe i forgot to click post....
anyways i said yes, you are right, i chose a bad example without really thinking about it but the point still stands in general, im talking about australian products vs foreign products overall and no im not an idiot =) just misinformed |
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26-02-2009, 08:01 AM | #28 | ||
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start the violin music, the boss is hard done by.
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26-02-2009, 10:12 AM | #29 | |||
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"Very emotional" My oath, running a business certainly IS emotional! "Not very factual"... How the hell would YOU KNOW? There's more to owning & operating a business then just bloody profits! There's a tiny little thing called "RESPONSIBILITY".. Responsibility to your employees that they have a stable, sustainable paying position. These employees, who ARE your bread & butter, also have commitments such as mortgages, school fees, rates, utility bills, car running costs, etc, etc. You have NO IDEA how tough it can be ensuring this continuity and stability is to keep merrily rolling along! (ESPECIALLY nowadays) And I certainly DO believe the Government needs to take some blame here! They've completely turned their back on the manufacturing industry in Australia, along with decades and decades of skills. These will be lost forever. As will industry as we know it! Australia... "The world's biggest warehouse"!!
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