THE top speed on Queensland roads could be lifted above 110km/h

[flappist]

Originally Posted by ryeman

^^^^an awful nr of girls on their Ps have rolled and killed those with them in Vic on country roads with no sealed edges over the years....it's just a fact that legislators are forced to address ....LCD rules!

How about, as mentioned before, change the mentality from "SLOW DOWN, STUPID" to "LEARN TO DRIVE OR STAY OFF THE ROAD, STUPID".

Oh and Rodger, I wonder how much better the roads would be if we got rid of all those big trucks from the highways, upgraded the rail system and just used trucks for the last few kilometres from the station to the final destination .

[blackf6]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

You don't need to be in outback Qld .....

Newell Hwy, (Main Vic/Qld road for those that dont know the area with 110kmh, between Coonabarabran and Narabri.)
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PPffftt that's nothin mate. Great up the limits. But also take the speed limiter of our trucks.

[kevino]

There are some roads as mentioned that would be ok-Gold Coast pacific motorway Beenleigh to Nerang, Gateway 8 mile plains to bridge.
I share the concern on slow drivers using fast lanes. I drive 70 kms to work up the Gold Coast Mway and Logan Mway.
It is near impossible to travel at 110km/hr the current speed limit now due to so many people travelling at 95-100 in the 2 fast lanes including trucks and B doubles.

I think with this measure must come improved driver training and also mobile phones altered technically so they cant be used in travelling vehicles without a Bluetooth device.

Driving a 2.4/2.5 metre truck in a 2.7metre lane is scary at 100 when you look down at the car driver beside you texting in the adjacent lane at 100km/hr.
The amount of people using their phones in car and dropping their concentration level 60% is scary-maybe 50%!

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by kevino

There are some roads as mentioned that would be ok-Gold Coast pacific motorway Beenleigh to Nerang, Gateway 8 mile plains to bridge.
I share the concern on slow drivers using fast lanes. I drive 70 kms to work up the Gold Coast Mway and Logan Mway.
It is near impossible to travel at 110km/hr the current speed limit now due to so many people travelling at 95-100 in the 2 fast lanes including trucks and B doubles.

I think with this measure must come improved driver training and also mobile phones altered technically so they cant be used in travelling vehicles without a Bluetooth device.

Driving a 2.4/2.5 metre truck in a 2.7metre lane is scary at 100 when you look down at the car driver beside you texting in the adjacent lane at 100km/hr.
The amount of people using their phones in car and dropping their concentration level 60% is scary-maybe 50%!

People dont concentrate because the speed limit is too low.

Drive across the Hay Plains at 20kmh and Im sure you will be looking at your phone as well.

[blackf6]

IF the road is full of potholes and no shoulders, single lane dirt. Who in their right mind would do over 110km/hour? There is no problem with lifting the limit though. People just drive to the conditions anyway.

[2011G6E]

The roads out here that are 110 certainly don't have bitmuned shoulders...they have some alarming drop offs at the edge.

Part of why we went from the otherwise-excellent G6E to our current Triton 4x4 dual cab was that, realistically, the roads out here and even the Bruce Highway (until you get down near Brisbane of course...) these days are just no longer suited to firmly suspended passenger cars with big diameter wheels like the 19's our G6E had. I know several people out here who have G6E'a dn XR6's and 8's who have put on 17" wheels instead of the factory 18's and 19's, just to get a bit of sidewall and make them a little more comfortable.

No wonder twin cabs are all the rage for a family car in so many places outside Brisbane...they actually make sense.

I'd say 110 to 120 for most of the Capricorn Highway right out to Longreach and the roads beyond would be fine. 110 for the Bruce Highway would be fine...there's not that big a difference between 100 and 110, but there is when you're covering out typically big distances out here.
The Capricorn Highway at the moment is an oddity...there's no actual change in road quality from Rockhampton out to Longreach, but from Rocky to just past Westwood it's 100, then it goes to 110. Then at Dingo it drops back to 100, then past Emerald somewhere it goes back to 110. No one seems to know why...

I won't be holding my breath though...look at the loooooong stretches of national Highway 1 here in Queensland that are lowered to 90kph with no overtaking allowed...road limits seem to only go down, never up.

[csv8]

2011G6E..Yeppen Roundabout to Gracemere should be 110kms not 100kms then down to 80kms,,,,2 kms outside of Gracemere..????

[Chrisosicko]

The m1 is a world class piece of road. Worse roads in Europe have open speed limits. Time to move the times I reckon

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by csv8

2011G6E..Yeppen Roundabout to Gracemere should be 110kms not 100kms then down to 80kms,,,,2 kms outside of Gracemere..????

Yes, that's an odd one isn't it...no houses around for kilometers, yet the speed limit drops suddenly to 80 a long way out of Gracemere. Weird. Same as coming in from the west towards Gracemere...it drops to 80 a long way out of town and the whole length of the road towards Rocky which actually bypasses the entire town...the only thing it goes past is the saleyards and wreckers on the other side of the road (and a small produce agency/pet shop)...

[TC200six]

I think the speed limits can be lifted over 110. On roads that are suitable that is.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by mick_bris

scary thought, so many idiots stuck in the right hand overtaking lane ignoring the 'keep left unless overtaking'.

Driver education first.

THIS - will improve once you goto 120-130km/h, as an automatic adjustment. REM NSW is studying the similar proposals.

Originally Posted by Chrisosicko

Worse roads in Europe have open speed limits. Time to move the times I reckon

Not quite the case, only EU's better motorway (in Germany) are speed derestricted.

Consider this re say GB; GB's "national maxiumum speed-limit" (for now - being reviewed) is 70MPH.

Now, IF you enter a GB motorway and by chance you see a speed derestriction sign vis; (//) then GB will enforce that 70MPH (112km/h) despite it being a speed derestricted length of road. They can do so as the 70MPH limit is in fact a "temporary speed-limit", introduced during the 1974 arab oil embargo emergency.

This 'temporary-nature' ceases legal effect when one posts '70' numeral speed-limit signs, (now most all GB motorway) but not the derestriction where the temporary nature remains. This leaves GB in compliance with the UN Convention on Road Traffic, Signs & Signals.

[monte.b]

I think the thing that needs to be done is overtaking lanes speed limit need to be increased to say 130 so you can actually pass somebody and not get booked for it as i have been ,then maybe 200 mtrs up the road after the overtaking lane the speed limit to go back to 110 ,i really dont think most of the fools ive seen on our highways have the ability to drive at 130 for too long without killing somebody ,not to mention our terrible roads,the Coroy to Gympie will be nice when bypasses Gympie and goes through to Curra but the rest of the road north aint real flash

[Jastel]

Having just driven from Perth to Qld I would like to add a few points.

Rural WA roads are often 110kmh some don't even have a left side white line and even go around bends and through forests!!

Across the Nullabor (still 110) people often go much faster, or slower, but due to the limited traffic you can overtake or be overtaken easily and within a minute or two you have some space around you again and do the speed you like. Very stress free driving...I know, most roads aren't like the Nullabor but some are so the limit should be lifted there....

From Perth to Adelaide I saw 2 police cars.
Adelaide to Brisbane had to be an average of at least one per hour, including cameras etc...

As soon as you hit the Vic border, same road, limit drops to 100kmh.
Why?? Cant Victorians drive? (Sorry!) And a police car/speed camera or worse still those overhead averaging things have everybody so terrified to do 101kmh you end with a 10km long train of PO drivers, especially if the bloke at the front is a caravan , but no one is game is zap it and overtake, they will only overtake if they can do 100 while the slowpoke does 98kmh and hence need a 5km long overtaking lane. But at least you HAVE overtaking lanes down there, not that they get used much...

Going via the inland NSW routes it seemed you have to slow down at every little town for 40 or 50kmh school zones, fair enough when kids are there but most people slow down all the time. Again with the heavy Police enforcement cameras and averaging things.

Around Bne the motorways are nice until they run out at the 90kmh bit near Gympie for many kms, then a quick squirt on the new road and then into roadworks territory. No Police are needed here as due to the floods there is roadworks both real and ghost ones, traffic lights, stop go men, mining equipment in escorted convoys and many other things to make sure you barely average 70kmh even in the few mostly closed off overtaking lanes all the way to Rockhampton.

Rocky north not much happening until you get to the Ingham/Cardwell section with the new range section there.

I am all for doing 110 or 120 on roads in my nice car, if I am towing a caravan or driving my old ute I could not even attempt these speeds.
Overtaking opportunities seem to be the key to avoiding frustration, the old bloke in the caravan WILL NOT go any faster than 83kmh, the yobbo in the sports car still will overtake everybody even if the limit is 150kmh... so more overtaking places (not only lanes but straight bits) will do much to calm everybody down and let them do their own speed.

Another thing spreading around is the new roads have 1m apart centre lines, I can see the point for trucks and safety etc but they seem to mean nothing to most motorists...

Remember the old saying - "Everybody driving slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster and overtaking you is a moron"
Not all vehicles, roads and drivers are equal so why should the speed limit be the same everywhere??

[zilo]

I have a different view about speed limits...

It's the easy option for governments to argue that slowing down saves lives.

yep...mathematically taken to the extreme 0.1km/h will save lives....all of them...zero fatalities guaranteed.

Of course they want to save lives...because for every life lost there are equally about 50 permenant injuries, the govt monopolised compulsory insurance entities want to minimise their losses...the payouts are huge for life long disability victims.

Car makers are doing a great job of putting 64000 airbags in cars, yep...you'll still have a scar free facial complexion..but..

Air bags saves lifes but not spinal cords.

In Victoria the TAC is the biggest cash cow in history..

The police force and camera operators prop up the TAC profits nicely with the huge budgets afforded to them by the likes of the TAC.

As far as enforcing KEEP LEFT etc they just aren't interested, whatever slows traffic down maintains profits....see 0.1km/h example above

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by zilo

I have a different view about speed limits...

It's the easy option for governments to argue that slowing down saves lives.

yep...mathematically taken to the extreme 0.1km/h will save lives....all of them...zero fatalities guaranteed.

Of course they want to save lives...because for every life lost there are equally about 50 permenant injuries, the govt monopolised compulsory insurance entities want to minimise their losses...the payouts are huge for life long disability victims.

Car makers are doing a great job of putting 64000 airbags in cars, yep...you'll still have a scar free facial complexion..but..

Air bags saves lifes but not spinal cords.

In Victoria the TAC is the biggest cash cow in history..

The police force and camera operators prop up the TAC profits nicely with the huge budgets afforded to them by the likes of the TAC.

As far as enforcing KEEP LEFT etc they just aren't interested, whatever slows traffic down maintains profits....see 0.1km/h example above

What if govco scrapped accident payouts altogether and make causing or having a car accident a crime.