Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-06-2005, 05:47 PM   #1
whiskieboy
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 214
Default vn motor in torana. worth it?

i was wondering how hard it is to drop a vn motor in a lj torana?
and round abouts how much it would cost?
and info would help.thanx.
lachlan
whiskieboy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 05:50 PM   #2
Steffo
LPG > You
 
Steffo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 4,277
Default

Are you talking about the 3.8 V6 or the 304 V8? If you're talking V8.. not a bad idea. V6, don't waste your time. Sure, the V6 can go well, but dollar per dollar, the V8 will stomp it. Plus it'll fit easier in a Torrie, considering they had 253's and 308's stock in them, back in the day.
__________________
LPG Lovers Association President & Member #1.

:
Steffo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 05:51 PM   #3
smciner1
Detroit Locker Equiped TM
 
smciner1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Area 51 (tm)
Posts: 4,928
Default

I think you need to get your own login Lachy........

__________________
Apollo Blue 1974 XB Falcon GT, 557 HP
Blue Pearl 2004 BA FPV GT, 290 kW

Quote:
Originally Posted by MRJUCY
Simple give the car a rev & have a listen a Windsor makes a sort of wheezy drone similar to an angry Hugh Grant when a Clevo will sound like Satan has woke up with a hangover & realized he is out of coffee & cigarettes
Falcon GT Club of Geelong.
http://www.facebook.com/FalconGTClubGeelong
smciner1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:01 PM   #4
whiskieboy
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 214
Default

would it cost the same or round abouts? i was thinkin six. cos i only get on my p's in a week. i dont wont to loose them straight away. so 8 you think?
whiskieboy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:03 PM   #5
K_Man
Whoa, this is heavy!
 
K_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Eastern Melbourne
Posts: 466
Default

I believe there is a kit for the 3.8 conversion somewhere, no idea where tho. I've seen a few on the net with that conversion, also the same into an LH/LX. A 253 or 308 conversion would probably be a bit simpler tho.
__________________
Liquid Silver 2002 AU III Fairmont wagon
Le Mans Red 1990 SA Capri Turbo
K_Man is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:04 PM   #6
RED_EL_XR8
Banned
 
RED_EL_XR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Not suffering Fools Gladly!!
Posts: 2,864
Default

Its a great idea, doing it like that you can fit the lot in a single skip! :
RED_EL_XR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:07 PM   #7
dansedgli
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
dansedgli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,359
Default

Put an 8 in, go a 253 if your worried about your P's. Then later on a 308 swap will be a piece of cake.

I wouldnt bother with the VN V6 unless your after economy or a newer engine or something like that.
__________________
Turbo AU ute ~ Nice legs, shame about the face. 282rwkw at 15psi.
dansedgli is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:07 PM   #8
whiskieboy
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 214
Default

thanx. and how much is a b&m quick shift? and how hard are they to get a hold of? are the kits for the 8 or 6?
whiskieboy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:15 PM   #9
dansedgli
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
dansedgli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,359
Default

Most are about $350 and it fitting or not depends on the trans setup you have.

I just sold my quicksilver shifter for $100
__________________
Turbo AU ute ~ Nice legs, shame about the face. 282rwkw at 15psi.
dansedgli is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:30 PM   #10
Lukeyson
Right out sideways
 
Lukeyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Coffs Harbour NSW
Posts: 5,307
Default

theres a mob who advertise in car parts mag , that do Holden V6 conversions.
But waste of time IMO, go the V8.
I will stop talking about holdens ....................... now
__________________
2010 FG XR50 Turbo | 2007 FPV BFII GT, BOSS 302
Lukeyson is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 06:59 PM   #11
MNM96
LIFELONG DJR SUPPORTER
 
MNM96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: CENTRAL QUEENSLAND
Posts: 5,324
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffo
Are you talking about the 3.8 V6 or the 304 V8? If you're talking V8.. not a bad idea. V6, don't waste your time. Sure, the V6 can go well, but dollar per dollar, the V8 will stomp it. Plus it'll fit easier in a Torrie, considering they had 253's and 308's stock in them, back in the day.
Hey All,
When did the LJ have 253's and 308's fitted as stock?? Not back in the day!


Lachy,
The V6 would be a sweet engine change into an LJ, and has done before. Don't kid yourself about liscencing issues, you can loose your liscence driving an electric Toyota Pruis just as easy as driving a Ferrari 550. It is all about showing a little restraint, and mental ability.

Why put a heavy, ancient V8 boat anchor in a car which went pretty well with the old red motor 202 when a 3800 V6 will supply more than enough power and economy to boot.

For me it comes down to this. Want a sweet ride which will still be going around in ten years without spending a fortune on repair, fuel etc, go V6!

It would ROCK! : :sm_headba

Cheers,
Mike

Last edited by MNM96; 07-06-2005 at 07:42 PM.
MNM96 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 07:04 PM   #12
Steffo
LPG > You
 
Steffo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 4,277
Default

Ooops.. didn't notice the LJ bit *Homer Simpson esque D'OH*
__________________
LPG Lovers Association President & Member #1.

:
Steffo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 07:09 PM   #13
K_Man
Whoa, this is heavy!
 
K_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Eastern Melbourne
Posts: 466
Default

Nothing like a carby v8 tho. Have you considered just working the 202? It was a bit of a dud in the commodore, but the giant killing LJ Torana GTR XU-1 was powered by a good ol 202. How much are 202 bits nowadays? I reckon i could buy a whole motor for a slab of beer. :
__________________
Liquid Silver 2002 AU III Fairmont wagon
Le Mans Red 1990 SA Capri Turbo
K_Man is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 07:40 PM   #14
whiskieboy
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 214
Default

thanks mike. for the info and for stickin up for me. it'll be just as much fun with a six i think. thanks all for your comments
whiskieboy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 08:13 PM   #15
Raptor
^^^^^^^^
Donating Member2
 
Raptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: online - duh
Posts: 9,642
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: For quietly going about moderating in a fair and even manner. 
Default

Mate, wrong forum but seeing as so many others have replied;

No, LC-LJ's did not have V8's back in the day.

A V6 is a much better swap into these earlier Torana's

A worked red motor would make it fly anyway (I know as I had one as my first car, but that was about 25 years ago) and also be cheaper and easier to rego & insure.

These cars are now at least 30+ years old.

Just go buy an E-series Falcon (Classier, more modern, cheap, and heaps more grunt).

But if you must => http://www.v6conversions.com.au/lclj.htm
__________________
.
'93 XG Falcon Ute( sold ) : '94 ED Falcon Classic ( sold ) : '04 Territory SX TS ( sold ) : '04 Falcon RTV BAII ute (still in the family)
Raptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 08:52 PM   #16
Dmax
74 XB Coupe
 
Dmax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bullsbrook WA
Posts: 111
Default V8 Torana

I used to own an LX Torrie with an all alloy 4.4L V8 from a P76 and it hammered and weighed a lot less than a V8 or a Big 6 but with the power of a 308. This would make an excellent motor for an LJ. You can legelly put a 253 in an LJ and all the bolt on chassis bits are available for an easy job. 308's won't go over the pits (in WA anyway). Holden made three LJ's with 253 V8's which 2 of which were dismantled and the third being unaccounted for.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg LX Alloy.jpg (33.6 KB, 95 views)
__________________
XB Coupe.....What else do I have to say.
Dmax is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 09:43 PM   #17
MNM96
LIFELONG DJR SUPPORTER
 
MNM96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: CENTRAL QUEENSLAND
Posts: 5,324
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmax
I used to own an LX Torrie with an all alloy 4.4L V8 from a P76 and it hammered and weighed a lot less than a V8 or a Big 6 but with the power of a 308. This would make an excellent motor for an LJ. You can legelly put a 253 in an LJ and all the bolt on chassis bits are available for an easy job. 308's won't go over the pits (in WA anyway). Holden made three LJ's with 253 V8's which 2 of which were dismantled and the third being unaccounted for.
Yeah, A Mates, Mates Cousins has it,along with the 6 XP 2Door convertable's what were lost, and a Secret Phase V what Ford put out wif all the good gear init.

These type of vehicle all start a ideas, which become Motorshow Concepts or enthusiast projects ( like the BA Two Door doing the rounds atm) and in thirty years become the car that "Holden made three" of these "which 2 of were dismantled and the third being unaccounted for."

The rest of your story makes perfect sense. The much unloved Leyland 4.4 was derived from the Rover 3.5 V8 and was a sweet engine, being mostly alloy. I purchased 1 from a Brissy CC Bus and fitted it to my Capri. Weighed the same as the 3100V6 and gave about twice the performance. Very Nice : :dj: :
Cheers,
Mike
MNM96 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 09:48 PM   #18
DanXR6T
Eat more peanuts....
 
DanXR6T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kingaroy, Qld
Posts: 502
Default

My gf's brother in law has a torana with a VN V6 in it. Goes hard enough however the V6 is far from stock.

He bought it that way so I don't have any details on the conversion, needless to say, it's possible.

Dan..
__________________
'04 Falcon XR6T Ute, Envi, K&N filter, F6 Intake, Twin 2.5" exhaust...

Formerly owned:
'99 AU Falcon Ute
'88 EA Falcon GL
DanXR6T is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-06-2005, 09:52 PM   #19
MRJUCY
Fordless
 
MRJUCY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,122
Default

My friend dropped a stock VN 304 in an otherwise stock LJ & at his one run at the drags ran a flat 14 with a 100shot it did a flat 12 & that was skinny **** tyres & all & no experience
MRJUCY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 10:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL