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25-09-2007, 08:10 PM | #31 | ||||
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I have a similar one. Dad needed a hard top on the back of his navara bolted up, we were told it'd be an hour's work at $40 an hour. Fair enough. I took it in for him and then proceeded to watch the workers out back fumble around for things (they do these hard covers and sports bars etc a lot by the look of it) and after waiting for about 20 mins, they tell me to go wait out front and it won't be long.. Another 1-hour-15 later, it's finally done and they try to charge me $110! :togo:
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25-09-2007, 08:17 PM | #32 | ||||
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This is something I find quite commonly happening today, so you can't even trust a 'professional' doing work.
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25-09-2007, 08:50 PM | #33 | ||
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flappist, (not a "personal attack") but if you hate whinging & whingers so much... why would you keep coming back to the same thread that not only suggests whinging in the title but containing it throuout the whole thread (alot of it done by yourself)
i have also got somthing to whing about myself... i recently got quoted 140 bucks to hook up a new headunit (headunit supplied by myself). |
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25-09-2007, 09:21 PM | #34 | |||
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Is that whinging or education? |
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25-09-2007, 09:31 PM | #35 | ||
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I almost paid $50 for a paper air filter... Reason it was so dear was "its not a very common item yet" rofl
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25-09-2007, 09:41 PM | #36 | ||||||
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25-09-2007, 10:11 PM | #37 | ||
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I think its a load of BS that people can post about how people should expect to pay so much for little work "cause they get professional jobs done etc etc", when really these pros have done the work they specialise in so much a small job to them could be done in thier sleep. They dont deserve big $$$ for tiny jobs like most try to get off ya, and maybe if they didnt try to rip people off they would get even more business then the business they currently get. Wanna know why rip offs are still in business? cause they prey off the people that have next to no knowledge in regards to what they want fixed, thats how. the idiot that goes a head with a small job and then spends the big $$$ doesnt know how bad he's getting ripped off. I have done lots of work to my own cars and saved mega $$$, and even still help out mates that say want an oil change or so. I say give us a drink and were even, not try charge 50 bucks for time, cleaning my *** fees, extra 10 bucks cause i had to pick my nose et etc. And why dont people ask for a quote on those small 5 min jobs? Because most assume that any DECENT KIND HEARTED bloke would only charge 5-10 bucks, or even say never mind. Do you charge a homeless person 10 bucks for a glass of water "because I have the appropriate skills to pour the water in a fantasticly sterilised glass that wont get you sick and will leave you of your thirst quenched"? NO you dont, you do it out of good will not to rip people off.
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25-09-2007, 10:18 PM | #38 | |||
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If you charge the cost of the engine hoist, the analyser, the torque wrench etc to the guy who simply wants an oil change, you wont do many oil changes. These could be bread and butter business, and bring them back for the bigger jobs. Sticking to your formula puts more strain on a business, you only get the jobs that require those tools, and then have to compete anyway. If you took on the oil change, at a cost relative to that task, you may get enough oil changes to stay in business doing the other stuff as well. Income is income, it all pays the bills. No good charging the minimum hire of say $50 for a headlight globe change. Youve done more harm to your reputation, youre the last guy he will think of when he needs the bigger job done. You'll get the same response when you refuse to do the globe change as its beneath you, unless youre the Stone Bros or in that league. Oh, I have a BA Business (Accounting) from QUT. If the equipment doesnt pay for itself theres no point having that equipment. You price yourself out of the rest of the work within that industry. Depending on the variables of the industry. What youre actually doing is focusing on the big jobs and leaving the little ones for someone else. Its a business decision, that often bites a company in the ar5e. Look after the cents, and the dollars look after themselves. |
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25-09-2007, 11:26 PM | #39 | |||
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But like many on here I do run now and have run many businesses, one for over 20 years. All this means is I may have a different view on this topic from those who do not run businesses, nothing more. This will go nowhere. The problem is that "Rip off" like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. If you think you are paying a fair price for what you receive then you are happy. If not then you just have to deal with it. If you buy something without asking the price first then you will probably learn a lesson that will be helpful during future transactions. Life goes on.............. |
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25-09-2007, 11:41 PM | #40 | |||
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26-09-2007, 03:15 AM | #41 | |||
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Pi55ing contest?, no. I merely called you on the whinger remarks, subsequent to that you wanted points, I made them, you missed them. I was going to simply ignore the snide arts degree remark, but cant resist. Its not a Bachelor of Arts (business), its a BA Business (Accounting, *insert other area of business here, ie: Economics or Banking and Finance*). The two faculties are completely separate. Yes, the term BA historically denotes Bachelor of Arts, as once all degrees fell under that umbrella, including science. If it was an Arts degree, it would be in that faculty. |
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26-09-2007, 04:40 AM | #42 | |||
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LOL he said, she said, you are I'm not. who cares, people who can't wipe their backside properly then complain because they are sitting in crap ? :evil3:
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26-09-2007, 08:07 AM | #43 | |||
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26-09-2007, 09:21 AM | #44 | |||
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26-09-2007, 10:17 AM | #45 | |||
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Flappist has made his point. You don't have to agree, but to suggest that he go elsewhere is a little self-assuming. Regardless of what you or I may think, he contributes a lot to the forums, so chill dude.
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26-09-2007, 11:35 PM | #46 | ||
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I cant help but think some of you are referring to mine, (about post 2)
I paid for a product (EB XR) and expected to get a legit deal, It was not cheap, but because they were losing money for every part they replaced/fixed on my car they lost cash. So of course they cut corners. But the fact it was ALL done in house (sale and RW) they had no one to answer to, and never thought a 19 y.o kid would pick up on this stuff. It was a bullshit situation.
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