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Old 28-03-2007, 05:42 PM   #31
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It'd be nice, but as said in previous posts...i'll believe it when i see it..the HRT427 (red monaro)was a goer until the bean counters got involved, some keen people even put down deposits, i heard, only to be given them back with a 'not financially feasable' line/excuse.
There was always talk of them bringing over a beefy corvette/callaway engine and putting it in a GTS, would be pricey for what is esentially a commy.
spose it'd still be cheaper than the european equivalent, horsepower wise??
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Old 28-03-2007, 05:43 PM   #32
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That depends on which WHEELS test. Do not compare WHEELS against others as they use different parameters for instance, they do it with two people in the car.

The only head to head tests done are the PCOTY last year in MOTOR. Check those results.

While you are at it check any Holden/HSV result comparing the "evaluation demo" cars against later tests with production cars. The comparisons are quite interesting.
How true... I've always suspected Holden of tweaking the press demos. That to me is a deception to the buyer. They've been doing this for years and have lost my trust.
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Old 28-03-2007, 06:34 PM   #33
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If only the HSVs didn't weigh close to 2000Kgs, that would be insane.

***Thinks of this engine in something like a VK or VL, weighing stuff all***. :Up_to_som
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Old 28-03-2007, 06:41 PM   #34
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In regards to mag times vs drag times, don't forget that the mags use a correveit which will always give you slower times than beam light (drag) figures.

As for the evergreen F6 bs Clubbie arguement, from what I've seen, the Clubbie IS faster in a straight line, but the F6 beats it in in-gear acceleration.
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Old 28-03-2007, 09:17 PM   #35
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The purple ute had a 6.2L LS1 IIRC
Purple ute had a 350kW 6.2litre stroked GenIII LS6 from the 2000-2005 Corvette Z06.

To answer the another guy's question, no the 307kW 550Nm HSV's are not faster then the supposedly only-270kW and 550Nm @ 2000-4250rpm F6.

And I don't see why a 400kW 7.0 V8 seems so out-there. It would be the current GenIV LS7. Its not an ultra expensive engine, you can buy a new one yourself for $12,999 US as a crate motor. 7.0litres, 377kW 637Nm. What would be so difficult about taking an already 377kW engine to 400kW? A measly 23kW power-gain on a modern, new, conservatively tuned 7.0litres engine? It would be childsplay for them.
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Old 28-03-2007, 09:41 PM   #36
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For those who don't know what I am talking about, I mean the PCOTY result, where GTS outperformed the F6, but since its stripe pack wasn't as good as Fords it got 19th.
there is more to performance than just straight numbers. If you actually read pcoty they didnt like the handling or the feel of the GTS. Not to mention an overcooked engine after a couple of laps.

yes, it lapped quicker than the F6 around the track. 1/4 mile was same time from memory with the F6 having higher mph, and the F6 was quicker down the 0-1000m.

even an F6 with standard brakes stops quicker than a GTS from 100km -0km. There were afew suprised people on the "other forum" regarding this one.

Oh, and I can't forget the crappier auto compared to the almighty ZF :
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Old 28-03-2007, 09:59 PM   #37
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Purple ute had a 350kW 6.2litre stroked GenIII LS6 from the 2000-2005 Corvette Z06.
Close enough
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Old 28-03-2007, 10:28 PM   #38
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even an F6 with standard brakes stops quicker than a GTS from 100km -0km. There were afew suprised people on the "other forum" regarding this one.
...I was more than happy in being part of 'that' conversation.
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