fuel prices

[Franco Cozzo]

I got diesel on Christmas day for $1.27/L out at Lancefield Shell.

I was happy

[herbicide]

Originally Posted by baboon

man that sux why the huge gap?

Because it's central qld, we always get ripped. Btw nak302, going by your location, I'm moving into your area.

[Davehoos]

low price of petrol-I save less on lpg.

I been planning to lpg my au for 2 years-cant cover the cost of rebuilding the second hand KIT.

Wanting to buy a diesel landrover-the prices now are down down.

[uniacidz]

$0.99 cents E10

$1.02 91ron

$1.19 98ron

Budget Petrol, Sunnyholt rd, Blacktown
They use Mobil fuels

First time I seen it under a dollar a litre for a very long time



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[SM1DY]

Originally Posted by uniacidz

$0.99 cents E10

First time I seen it under a dollar a litre for a very long time

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2007, I think?

[MercurySilver]

Originally Posted by Struggo

Paid $1.30 today for BP 98 in Sydney's south west

Same price I paid yesterday.
Normal unleaded was still 1.13.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by NAK302

a week later and ulp is still $1.45 here in central QLD. nice

Damn, the rest of Australia must not have got the memo that central qld should be treated differently when it comes to basic capitalism. Not every truck drives 30 kilometres from refinery to petrol station to deliver fuel, not every petrol station sells 50,000 litres a day to allow them to mark up petrol by 2 or 3 cents a litre to cover daily running costs.

[Focusfan]

Originally Posted by uniacidz

$0.99 cents E10

$1.02 91ron

$1.19 98ron

Budget Petrol, Sunnyholt rd, Blacktown
They use Mobil fuels

First time I seen it under a dollar a litre for a very long time



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By the RACQ fuel watch average Brisbane south to south west is up again to about $1.33 p/l.
After all the complaints and ACCC looking at it they continue to stick it up Queenslanders back sides.
They really do not give a crap about us as these prices prove compared to NSW and VIC and SA prices.
Maybe ACCC will stick it up them. HAHAHA. They don't have the balls.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Damn, the rest of Australia must not have got the memo that central qld should be treated differently when it comes to basic capitalism. Not every truck drives 30 kilometres from refinery to petrol station to deliver fuel, not every petrol station sells 50,000 litres a day to allow them to mark up petrol by 2 or 3 cents a litre to cover daily running costs.

Crap! Transport cost is minuscule.

Around here 98ron is still around $1.50 and LPG 84cpl.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Crap! Transport cost is minuscule.

Around here 98ron is still around $1.50 and LPG 84cpl.

Unless Wagga Wagga has built a new shipping teriminal recently, then it does suffer quite the disadvantage in fuel costs when it comes to the major cities. It may cost a cent a litre to get oil from the middle east to the refineries of singapore in 2 million barrel super tankers, and then a few cents a litre to get it from singapore to sydney in 200,000 barrel tankers, but by the time it leaves a sydney terminal, the costs rise quite alot. Wagga maybe only 450 k's from sydney, but its not as simple to say that the guy can cart 30,000 litres in 5 hours and is paid $30 an hour. Firstly he is travelling 900 k's to get that petrol 450 k' s down the road. To do that 900 k's is gonna take him 15 hours (fill truck, stuck in traffic, empty truck, paperwork etc etc). Then for everyone truck driver, your gonna have another guy in the background. Then theres actual asset costs that are tied up to transport the fuel. The same truck could service a few stations in metro sydney as one could in wagga wagga.

Simple fact is, if transport costs (and other asset management costs) aint an issue, then I promise you that I could sell petrol to everybody in wagga wagga, central qld or even alice springs for $1.15 a litre. You just have to come to Adelaide to pick it up from me.

[Davehoos]

Im in central NSW this week. fuel comes from south australia from these parts and is about $1.50=with a few cents difference between servo.

purchased LPG at singleton on new england hyway about $0.80 and have enough to get me back to the coast as I havnt travelled from the inlaws. falcon does an easy 1000 Km between top ups.

freight cost do come into it but not compared to other costs.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Unless Wagga Wagga has built a new shipping teriminal recently, then it does suffer quite the disadvantage in fuel costs when it comes to the major cities. It may cost a cent a litre to get oil from the middle east to the refineries of singapore in 2 million barrel super tankers, and then a few cents a litre to get it from singapore to sydney in 200,000 barrel tankers, but by the time it leaves a sydney terminal, the costs rise quite alot. Wagga maybe only 450 k's from sydney, but its not as simple to say that the guy can cart 30,000 litres in 5 hours and is paid $30 an hour. Firstly he is travelling 900 k's to get that petrol 450 k' s down the road. To do that 900 k's is gonna take him 15 hours (fill truck, stuck in traffic, empty truck, paperwork etc etc). Then for everyone truck driver, your gonna have another guy in the background. Then theres actual asset costs that are tied up to transport the fuel. The same truck could service a few stations in metro sydney as one could in wagga wagga.

Simple fact is, if transport costs (and other asset management costs) aint an issue, then I promise you that I could sell petrol to everybody in wagga wagga, central qld or even alice springs for $1.15 a litre. You just have to come to Adelaide to pick it up from me.

Wrong on so many counts...........

A B-double can carry 60,000+ litres.

Wagga/Syd/Wagga including Loading/unloading is 12-13hrs
Stuck in traffic? Its 95% Freeway from Botany to here.

The most any driver would be paid is about $20ph tops.

"For every one driver there's another guy in the background" Doing what? The truck owner owns a lot of Trucks, the Guy at the terminal controls a lot of trucks.
Where does this 'one Other Guy per Truck' come in ?

Our Fuel comes from both Melb and Syd, depending on the carrier, and which terminal has the best price.
So please explain the difference between those places which I believe are around $1.10 - $1. 20 to Wagga's prices of around $1.45.

Or perhaps you could expand on your 'transport cost' theory and explain why the ACT is almost as expensive as here (sometimes even more expensive) yet is only 270k's from Botany.

With all the support you seem to be giving the fuel companies one would think that you work for one of them.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Damn, the rest of Australia must not have got the memo that central qld should be treated differently when it comes to basic capitalism. Not every truck drives 30 kilometres from refinery to petrol station to deliver fuel, not every petrol station sells 50,000 litres a day to allow them to mark up petrol by 2 or 3 cents a litre to cover daily running costs.

What about Canberra mate, 91 is still 1.46 here

[uniacidz]

An excellent example ot price gauging is.
M1 Motorway Wahroonga turnoff in Sydney, southbound

Its the first fuel stop after the M1 turnoff where people fill up.

Its at Central Coast prices, example would be $1.39 where as go a further 2 kms down the Pacific Hwy southbound and its $1.13
Or go into Hornsby and the BP is also $1.13

Simply, petrol station catching out persons coming off the turnoff and needing to fill up

Seen it a few times doing this gauging.
Maybe they are slow to pass on the savings like the others stations around, but is how i have witnessed it on more then a few occasions

[Focusfan]

Now the latest news.
On 7 news tonight petrol expected to rise about 20c p/l within a week.
W.T.F. Claim it is the price discount cycle coming to an end.
What discount are they referring to when we are on average still 10-15 cents per litre higher than 3 other states.
We did not get as much price drop as other states with oil prices dropping to half their high price and now they want to put it
back up to same pump price as when oil was $100 per barrel.
Some states are also still being ripped off like NT, ACT WA so they know how we feel here. Where is the governments.? Sorry I forgot, on holidays over seas I guess in $1,000 per night resorts.

[Blem]

Paid $1:30 for Ultimate here yesterday when I topped up.
Reckon that was about the price I paid when I bought my car new in 2009.
Got 2 of 20lt gerry cans of fuel at the same time.
Happy days in Adelaide

[OCTANEBOSS]

The Kalgoorlie/Boulder fuel price is a joke. Still paying through the nose for 98 ron $1.60 p/l. It comes in on rail. They unload mostly diesel at the depots but there is nearly always rail tankers with ULP/ premium in the delivery. I witnessed this a few years ago installing fire suppression system to a pommie petroleum supplier. Trouble is they are the cheapest.

Looking at some of the pricing you blokes get in the city i would be storing it in my rainwater tanks

[AGH]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

What about Canberra mate, 91 is still 1.46 here

At Costco ACT Saturday 27/12 ULP 91 $1.137, ULP 98 $1.377 and diesel was $1.39 from memory.

[NAK302]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Unless Wagga Wagga has built a new shipping teriminal recently, then it does suffer quite the disadvantage in fuel costs when it comes to the major cities. It may cost a cent a litre to get oil from the middle east to the refineries of singapore in 2 million barrel super tankers, and then a few cents a litre to get it from singapore to sydney in 200,000 barrel tankers, but by the time it leaves a sydney terminal, the costs rise quite alot. Wagga maybe only 450 k's from sydney, but its not as simple to say that the guy can cart 30,000 litres in 5 hours and is paid $30 an hour. Firstly he is travelling 900 k's to get that petrol 450 k' s down the road. To do that 900 k's is gonna take him 15 hours (fill truck, stuck in traffic, empty truck, paperwork etc etc). Then for everyone truck driver, your gonna have another guy in the background. Then theres actual asset costs that are tied up to transport the fuel. The same truck could service a few stations in metro sydney as one could in wagga wagga.

Simple fact is, if transport costs (and other asset management costs) aint an issue, then I promise you that I could sell petrol to everybody in wagga wagga, central qld or even alice springs for $1.15 a litre. You just have to come to Adelaide to pick it up from me.

probably the 3rd or 4th stupidest post i've ever read on FF

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by AGH

At Costco ACT Saturday 27/12 ULP 91 $1.137, ULP 98 $1.377 and diesel was $1.39 from memory.

Yeh i fill the Patrol up there but not the XR6T, BP ultimate only for that as Caltex fuel is crap

[MercurySilver]

Down near victor yesterday it was 1.24 for normal.
Town was still 1.12

[damo6]

Originally Posted by Focusfan

By the RACQ fuel watch average Brisbane south to south west is up again to about $1.33 p/l.
After all the complaints and ACCC looking at it they continue to stick it up Queenslanders back sides.
They really do not give a crap about us as these prices prove compared to NSW and VIC and SA prices.
Maybe ACCC will stick it up them. HAHAHA. They don't have the balls.

i paid $1.54 for bp ultimate at grafton yesterday,trip back home to qld (from grafton on pac hwy) every servo was at least $1.26 for std unleaded all the way to the border then it was $1.13 within litteraly 1 km over the border? go figure?...

[Davehoos]

over $1.40 for all but E10 on the run home from Nyngan. Diesel often $1.49-$1.51

filled up Gas at Dubbo 12.5 L/100 family and weeks holiday stuff.
$0.84 plus 8 cents discount.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by NAK302

probably the 3rd or 4th stupidest post i've ever read on FF

Surely it must come in at least ninth, as you have made 7 or 8 comments in this thread alone, complaining that you have purchased a product for $1.40 plus, that is apparantly worth (according to you) only $1.13. The 18 year old girlie standing behind the counter at your local petrol station certainly has outwitted you.

[NAK302]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Surely it must come in at least ninth, as you have made 7 or 8 comments in this thread alone, complaining that you have purchased a product for $1.40 plus, that is apparantly worth (according to you) only $1.13. The 18 year old girlie standing behind the counter at your local petrol station certainly has outwitted you.

i stand corrected. nice witty response, well done

[John G]

Most tanker drivers are paid on a CHR (common hourly rate) of between $38 -$41.50 p/hour depending on their employer and the size of the truck. (size does matter)
The Petrol Transport Industry is very competitive within itself. The equipment is expensive to buy and maintain. Compliance to regulations and safety is expensive but must be done. Anyone making big profits will soon have another carrier cutting the rate to secure a contract

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by John G

Most tanker drivers are paid on a CHR (common hourly rate) of between $38 -$41.50 p/hour depending on their employer and the size of the truck. (size does matter)
The Petrol Transport Industry is very competitive within itself. The equipment is expensive to buy and maintain. Compliance to regulations and safety is expensive but must be done. Anyone making big profits will soon have another carrier cutting the rate to secure a contract

Are those drivers contractors or do the petrol companies own the trucks?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by John G

Most tanker drivers are paid on a CHR (common hourly rate) of between $38 -$41.50 p/hour depending on their employer and the size of the truck. (size does matter)

According to those figures Drivers are on about $3,000+ per week (14hrs a day x 6 days x $40 per hour)
I trust you know Drivers making this kind of money ? Because I certainly don't.

Originally Posted by John G

The Petrol Transport Industry is very competitive within itself.

Every section of the Transport industry is competitive.

Originally Posted by John G

The equipment is expensive to buy and maintain. Compliance to regulations and safety is expensive but must be done.

No more than a Fridge Van.

Originally Posted by John G

Anyone making big profits will soon have another carrier cutting the rate to secure a contract

Ever heard of Ron Finemore?

[John G]

Mainly contractors. (Linfox, Cootes, Toll,JLP, Scotts etc) hardly any Oil Companies have their own fleet

[John G]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

According to those figures Drivers are on about $3,000+ per week (14hrs a day x 6 days x $40 per hour)
I trust you know Drivers making this kind of money ? Because I certainly don't.

Every section of the Transport industry is competitive. No more than a Fridge Van.
Ever heard of Ron Finemore?

Drivers cannot work more than 72 Hrs per week. Yes BFM lets them work 14 hrs days but they cannot exceed 72 hrs P/w. Yes, I know Ron Finemore.