|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
23-05-2013, 10:58 AM | #151 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 287
|
Press Release from Ford Website
http://www.ford.com.au/about/newsroo...=1249024395989 Quote:
|
|||
23-05-2013, 10:59 AM | #153 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Coburg VIC
Posts: 70
|
|
||
5 users like this post: |
23-05-2013, 10:59 AM | #154 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 259
|
Glad people on here aren't giving Ford a free pass and blaming the buying public for everything. The onus is on a company to bring a product to market, promote it, make it competitively priced/equipped and not least make it relevant to what people want.
Ford have failed to do this on the Australian made products. Even recently they responded to the opposition leader's visit and opinion that Territory was a great car with an attitude that it was just all to hard to bother to export. Ok, sounds like the decision was already made but I found that really negative by Ford. With a 3 year lead time, hopefully it will give workers time to reskill and make other arrangements. And I'll buy Australian made after 2016 , Holden or Toyota. Guess this theory that automotive will collapse if any of the big 3 left will now be tested. |
||
23-05-2013, 11:00 AM | #155 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
|
"Their brand is dead to many people"...?
Maybe, but realistically it is only for the tiny percentage of people these days who are badge-blind, or who don't accept any other Ford than one with a "Falcon" badge on it... They have to build what people demand...we only owned our G6E for two years. ..I was bitterly disappointed by what it didn't have for what was supposed to be a "premium" model. Do a search on this forum, you'll see plenty of Ford fans who also knock Falcons about various points. People don't buy purely on badge anymore, and haven't for many years...gone are the days of just taking anything the maker throws out the door simply because it has a Ford badge on it. |
||
23-05-2013, 11:00 AM | #156 | ||
Seduce FG XR8
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 141
|
No surprise when you hear such quotes from the press conference:
"Ford boss says manufacturing in Aus costs double what it does in Europe, and four times what is costs in Asia" |
||
23-05-2013, 11:01 AM | #157 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 492
|
Well said Snout.
I know this is a Ford site and many will get nostalgic and teary eyed, but at the end of the day Ford is a business, and when an arm of a business ceases to be viable, it gets chopped. Life's a *****.
__________________
1966 XP Falcon Hardtop 200ci - Silver Blue |
||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:01 AM | #158 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 470
|
Graziano confirms ford AU cost structure "double that of Europe".
Shoots down the myth of cheaper wages than Europe/Canada etc people on this forum have been banging on about. |
||
23-05-2013, 11:01 AM | #159 | ||
Central to all beach's
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alice Springs
Posts: 1,653
|
This is what happens when governments force Australian companies to compete on a level playing field. Sadly the field was anything but level.....
__________________
Real Aussie muscle cars have a clutch!! http://www.roadsense.com.au/about.html |
||
23-05-2013, 11:02 AM | #160 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 492
|
What a ridiculously simplistic assessment of the situation.
__________________
1966 XP Falcon Hardtop 200ci - Silver Blue |
||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:03 AM | #161 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Brisbane, Qld
Posts: 3,321
|
I'm not teary eyed as we knew it would happen one day. Shame though.
|
||
23-05-2013, 11:05 AM | #162 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 72
|
|
||
23-05-2013, 11:05 AM | #163 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
|
Quote:
Big cars are on the way out...people said in in the late seventies, and it proved to be false. People said it in the eighties and nineties, and it was sort of wrong. But it's been downhill this century..."small" cars aren't that small anymore...medium cars are as large inside as "big" cars used to be in Australia. Despite claims to the contrary from enthusiasts, buyers couldn't care less if a car is front wheel or rear wheel drive, as long as it's well equipped and drives nicely and, importantly, is priced sharply. |
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:06 AM | #164 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,922
|
If the government wants to save all those jobs, save local production, then give people a tax concession for buying an aussie made brand new car. Effectively lowering the cost to purchase.
Businesses and individuals would jump on it. The government wont even really lose out as all those wages employed in the aussie production paying them tax as well as company profits and supplier chain.. GOVERNMENT GIVE INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES TAX CONCESSIONS WHEN BUYING AUSSIES MADE CARS!!!!!! ITS A WIN WIN!! |
||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:07 AM | #165 | ||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,591
|
Man..I just have so much anger at Ford NA right now its numbing. If they come out with a GWRD sedan within the next couple of years I will flip out.
__________________
|
||
23-05-2013, 11:07 AM | #166 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 287
|
I wonder how long before Holden makes a similar announcement. I would think that Holden would have to review their options for local manufacture now Ford is going to be out of the picture as they will need to increase the overseas content in their vehicles as local supplier prices will increase quite a bit as they raise costs to cover the loss of Ford business. That's if the local suppliers can survive without Ford.
This is not a good sign for the continued local manufacturing of cars in Australia. |
||
23-05-2013, 11:08 AM | #167 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
|
Quote:
And most manufacturing plants need volume to reduce the cost structure. Im suprised that the cost structure of the Ford AU plant which only made 30,000 cars last is only double the plants which pump out 250,000 cars a year. |
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:08 AM | #168 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Victoria
Posts: 836
|
Falcon nameplate finishing in 2016, not being carried over to import model.
__________________
FG MkII G6 Ecoboost in Lightning Strike
|
||
23-05-2013, 11:09 AM | #169 | ||
Matakana NZ
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Matakana NZ
Posts: 3,685
|
I beg to differ, I glad they made it
__________________
SOLD : BA XR8 4 Speed Auto in Mercury Silver, Bluepower CIA, Full Diffilipo Big Boy Quad System, Tune, 4.11 Diff Gears, FPV Starter Button, FPV GT Rear Spoiler, Tripod Gauges, PWR Trans Cooler. 230 RWKW's. Many thanks to Chris at Bluepower Racing Developments
Hers : F6X build #150 in Ego, Stock as a Rock, untill the warranty runs out, including the extended one. My Work Wagon AU Futura Wagon in Gold. On the Farm : Ford 6600 Tractor |
||
23-05-2013, 11:09 AM | #170 | ||
SZ II TS Territory-Black
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Townsville
Posts: 208
|
Just heard, the Falcon name end in 2016
__________________
Kick it in the guts Barry! FWD is the Devils work |
||
23-05-2013, 11:11 AM | #171 | ||
Last warning
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mornington Peninsula, Victoria HeadCount: 3
Posts: 11,194
|
aaaaaaaaaand the dollar dips further
__________________
FALCN6 - Turbo, Air Bag Suspension - Hibernating EL GT - Supercharged NASCAR - 83 Thunderbird , Bagged DAILY - BA Fairlane Ghia, Boss 260 Turbo OFFROADER - Ford Explorer |
||
23-05-2013, 11:12 AM | #172 | |||
Unintended Perfectionist
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Brissy North
Posts: 2,196
|
Quote:
Old fords are still going, and the way I see it, the values of the last falcon won't drop as quick since you can't get a new one. I will try save my pennies to get one of the last ones. The mustang might actually come here as a RHD RWD option. I will NEVER give in to a GM product. I will just keep my XR8. Just watched the press conference... The update will go ahead-good. FPV continuing-no idea-not good Motorsport-no real idea either-not good.
__________________
BA-FG parts for sale. http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11411117 http://s1092.photobucket.com/user/my...?sort=3&page=1 The XR re-erection in the works http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11386452 |
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:13 AM | #173 | ||
Get in the ring!!!
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mornington Peninsula
Posts: 888
|
So does 30% more product mean we will definitely get Mustang? And possibly Taurus and F-truck? Mustang on sale for a reasonable price would be a small consolation for losing our beloved Falcon.
__________________
FG MKII XR6T - Tuned by Pit Lane |
||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:13 AM | #174 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
|
Not the first company to close down , sadly probably wont be the last, no one will continue banging their head against the wall trying to make a dollar when the they can import cars cheaper, i just heard on the radio over period x ford oz lost 600 million dollars, the next question is will holden or toyota be next?
|
||
23-05-2013, 11:14 AM | #175 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake Macquarie, Newcastle NSW
Posts: 3,164
|
I'ts now time to save the pennies and buy new the last of an aussie icon, The Falcon! And I hope others on this forum & the public follow!
|
||
23-05-2013, 11:14 AM | #176 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 492
|
You would be in the minority.
It was a stupid product that delayed their foray into fuel efficient technologies. You might say producing the F6X demonstrated that Ford's business model and direction was doomed to fail.
__________________
1966 XP Falcon Hardtop 200ci - Silver Blue |
||
23-05-2013, 11:16 AM | #177 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 492
|
I look forward to silly people snapping up GTs in 2016 and trying to sell them at 150% of RRP in 2017 as a "future classic bound to appreciate in value".
__________________
1966 XP Falcon Hardtop 200ci - Silver Blue |
||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:17 AM | #178 | |||
Unintended Perfectionist
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Brissy North
Posts: 2,196
|
Quote:
Manufacturing, and the farmers are stuffed. I try buy local at the supermarket. I have only purchased one vehicle new, and it was an AU ute. Stupid Gillard Government.
__________________
BA-FG parts for sale. http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11411117 http://s1092.photobucket.com/user/my...?sort=3&page=1 The XR re-erection in the works http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11386452 |
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-05-2013, 11:17 AM | #179 | ||
Young Ford Enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NQ
Posts: 287
|
Hopefully I will be able to get one after I leave school, sad day for Australia, I just want the bad news to go away.....
__________________
Ol Reliable: 2004 Ba Sr MkI The Fun Machine: 2007 Bf XR6 Ute MkII |
||
23-05-2013, 11:17 AM | #180 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 796
|
Can't blame Ford, $600.000.000 lost in the last 5 years, $141.000.000 lost last year alone.
Chrysler and Mitsubishi come to mind. True Blue Give it to me straight Face to face Are you really disappearing, Just another dying race, Hey True Blue (credit John Williamson) Last edited by graham7773; 23-05-2013 at 11:25 AM. |
||