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Old 30-05-2020, 10:11 AM   #91
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I still don't know answer on my VW mate....ha
Well it has a VW badge on it so my comments still stand
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No one ever rated that. It was a flop.
I'm pretty sure FORD didn't market it as a flop.
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I think the Golf GTi is a very good hatch.

But agree its "status" is overplayed.
No doubting it's capability. But it's like the comparisons between early 2000s HSVs and tickford.
The HSVs won based on what the sheep and followers wanted. Even though in many cases the Tickford was the better car to drive.
I may be biased but the XR5 turbo was every bit as good as a GTi
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I'm pretty sure FORD didn't market it as a flop.
Yeah manufacturers tend not to say our new car is crap, don’t buy it. Tends to cause problems selling them.

The roofs leaked terribly, and the quality was unbelievably poor. I think exports to the US tanked too.

I do remember the head of the Capri program writing on the final report “this little duck will never fly”.
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No doubting it's capability. But it's like the comparisons between early 2000s HSVs and tickford.
The HSVs won based on what the sheep and followers wanted. Even though in many cases the Tickford was the better car to drive.
I may be biased but the XR5 turbo was every bit as good as a GTi
The GTI does most things well, but it’s pretty bland and doesn’t have the performance edge the rivals do. It has no soul. It’s like the Toyota of hot hatches.
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The GTI does most things well, but it’s pretty bland and doesn’t have the performance edge the rivals do. It has no soul. It’s like the Toyota of hot hatches.
Something VW does well is the interior - the stereos in the VW Transporter was absolutely amazing compared to Ford Transit and Mercedes Sprinter we would get through to turn into emergency vehicles.

If you're a muggle I guess you'd sit in their cars and the stereo and the feel of the interior is probably the first thing you'd notice
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That convertible, the Capri.

Unless I'm misunderstood, it has to be a contender.
Don't forget the Saab convertible
And the very over priced Astra convertible
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Something VW does well is the interior - the stereos in the VW Transporter was absolutely amazing compared to Ford Transit and Mercedes Sprinter we would get through to turn into emergency vehicles.

If you're a muggle I guess you'd sit in their cars and the stereo and the feel of the interior is probably the first thing you'd notice
They do do a quality interior. Audi probably does it the best though.
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a/u is the fat chick when the lights come on at the club
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This 1960s song is strangely apt for the AU

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Toyota Landcruiser. It gets so much more hype about its capability than it deserves.
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Toyota Landcruiser. It gets so much more hype about its capability than it deserves.
Funny that! A Chev owner on a ford forum complaining about a toyota!
Hahaha, in the best country in the world.
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Well it has a VW badge on it so my comments still stand
Lol. Fair enough!

It's a pretty big company that makes a variety of **** and very expensive cars then....like you I don't like the badge but love the car.

Perfect for my needs and not another option close really. Maybe the Liberty GT-Spec Wagon closest and I rate them.
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Toyota Landcruiser. It gets so much more hype about its capability than it deserves.
Big call that. But each to their own - they're design looks weird now I agree
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youve never racked one underground ??
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youve never racked one underground ??
I drive them underground everyday. They are over rated.
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I drive them underground everyday. They are over rated.
What is better? (genuine question as I wouldn't know)
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I drive them underground everyday. They are over rated.
u know how i know...
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What is better? (genuine question as I wouldn't know)
She's no VT wagon on gas bud!
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Anything but a Cruiser.
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When it comes to 4x4s you're either a Nissan Patrol or Toyota LandCruiser man

Who remembers the GQ Patrol? I was riding shotgun when the driver sunk one up to past the bonnet and got it stuck and it was still happily idling away while we were taking in heaps of water in the interior awaiting rescue

Personally I'm team Patrol, that way my Nissan jacket could have some relevance
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No doubting it's capability. But it's like the comparisons between early 2000s HSVs and tickford.
The HSVs won based on what the sheep and followers wanted. Even though in many cases the Tickford was the better car to drive.
I may be biased but the XR5 turbo was every bit as good as a GTi
The R36 is basically the bigger and faster GTi.

If it wasn't for the awesome interior and great exhaust note I'd agree.

The GTi a very safe choice with excellent resale.

As for which id pick out of GTi or XR5 - neither as I'm not a hatch fan (as not useful for me), but I'd have the latter ahead.

VWs are overpriced. However not close to some other Germans that are WAY overpriced (BMW 3 series and Audi A4 exhibit 1)
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The R36 is basically the bigger and faster GTi.

If it wasn't for the awesome interior and great exhaust note I'd agree.

The GTi a very safe choice with excellent resale.

As for which id pick out of GTi or XR5 - neither as I'm not a hatch fan (as not useful for me), but I'd have the latter ahead.

VWs are overpriced. However not close to some other Germans that are WAY overpriced (BMW 3 series and Audi A4 exhibit 1)
bigger and faster than a gti

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When it comes to 4x4s you're either a Nissan Patrol or Toyota LandCruiser man

Who remembers the GQ Patrol? I was riding shotgun when the driver sunk one up to past the bonnet and got it stuck and it was still happily idling away while we were taking in heaps of water in the interior awaiting rescue

Personally I'm team Patrol, that way my Nissan jacket could have some relevance
Yes, I agree, you're either big Datsun or a cruiser person.
Saw a sticker on a Cruiser the other day.
"Official Nissan Partol recovery vehicle"

Who would actually make a sticker like that, didn't we just take it for granted that that's what a Landcruiser was made for!

On the eight day God made a Landcruiser to get a big Datsun out of a boghole or a little bit of sand blown across the tarred beach road!

I still like the old name Datsun!

Hope you can have a laugh with me and forget about that other person peddling Landcruisers are over rated,
Landcruisers are highly rated because there's nothing better!
Go ahead, name a better vehicle in the same category!

Cheers Phil
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youve never racked one underground ??
working on a processing plant, parked the 100 and up into the scaffolding to do my thing, come back, no 100, where did it go> it's 50ft up in the air in yonder distance at end of a crane > wtf > turns out someone had borrowed it to drive 200m to crib room (for fitness I guess), got to carpark, hit accelerator instead of brake, over the curb, down the embankment, 100 now resting on 1000psi pressure line. So technically it got major air time.
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Sorry for my nerdyness but, what what are you trying to say!

youve never racked one underground.

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Yes, I agree, you're either big Datsun or a cruiser person.
Saw a sticker on a Cruiser the other day.
"Official Nissan Partol recovery vehicle"

Who would actually make a sticker like that, didn't we just take it for granted that that's what a Landcruiser was made for!

On the eight day God made a Landcruiser to get a big Datsun out of a boghole or a little bit of sand blown across the tarred beach road!

I still like the old name Datsun!

Hope you can have a laugh with me and forget about that other person peddling Landcruisers are over rated,
Landcruisers are highly rated because there's nothing better!
Go ahead, name a better vehicle in the same category!

Cheers Phil
I've got a bit of a fetish for a manual 80 series Cruiser sporting the 1FZFE 4.5L I6 petrol engine with a Garrett GTX3582 hanging off the side of it

It would be great fun flying about Melbourne's freeways in a 400KW+ Toyota LandCruiser.

The only thing is second hand they've all got dodgy LPG installs or 600,000km on them and they're still going for 5 figures.
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I've got a bit of a fetish for a manual 80 series Cruiser sporting the 1FZFE 4.5L I6 petrol engine with a Garrett GTX3582 hanging off the side of it

It would be great fun flying about Melbourne's freeways in a 400KW+ Toyota LandCruiser.

The only thing is second hand they've all got dodgy LPG installs or 600,000km on them and they're still going for 5 figures.
Funny you say that Franco,
I bought a new 80series v8 auto in 2004 and petrol prices jumped from 88c in 2002 to 148c in 2008, they were a great car, cruise control was dangerous, set it at 100 and get to the top of the hill, its motoring and you have to jump on the brakes! fuel economy wasn't the best, but 16 years later my Mazda cx-9 gets no better fuel economy when the price has been up around 180c.
Cheers Phil.
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Ferrari Testa Rossa

Looked ok but way overrated.

The GTO definitely not

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