Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party / Lobby Group - Page 4

**PridenJoy** · 08-09-2013, 08:28 PM

I voted for him (1 out of 97)! Glad to see he got in. Goes to show the power of the people, hope he makes the most of it and represents us (motoring enthusiasts) well.

Nanoraptor · 08-09-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Love to know what it costs us taxpayers to have a federal election. Needs to be 4 year terms not 3................

Looks like about 160million+ for the last two federal ones.

Road Games · 08-09-2013, 09:40 PM

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**cs123** · 08-09-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 9sec Menace

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Your like a kid with a new toy with that upside down font.

Road Games · 08-09-2013, 10:01 PM

Had to paint my intercooler flat black when it was highly polished thanks to poolice attention..

I gotta get my kicks somewhere now Chris...

LTDHO · 09-09-2013, 07:20 AM

I was surprised with amount of 'enthusiasts' we have in this country, that AMEP didn’t get more votes.

GQ_Smooth · 09-09-2013, 07:52 AM

1st time in my life I voted for a Minor party (AMEP), partly because I have major issues with both parties policies at the moment. I agree with those saying it's not the best outcome to run a country with too many minor parties, means no major decisions can be made (good or bad, and too many parties give their 2 cents and as a result major bills are ruined compared to their original intentions). Sometimes you need to push through an unpopular decision and live with the consequences, history will judge if it was right or wrong (as a general rule, people hate/are scared of change).

nb_351 · 09-09-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

I was surprised with amount of 'enthusiasts' we have in this country, that AMEP didn’t get more votes.

Because as stated before, people are scared of change
I'm sure a lot more people would support them if they had seen some real results from them
And the advertising was limited to a certain group of people
A lot of the guys who race historic cars for instance, probably don't have a Facebook account to see the online advertising
It's like people who ask for experience with a job interview but aren't willing to give people willing to learn things a decent crack
I voted number 1 for the Amep in the top line and was happy to as I think both Abbott and Rudd have things I don't agree with and I don't trust any of them

JC · 09-09-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nb_351

Because as stated before, people are scared of change
I'm sure a lot more people would support them if they had seen some real results from them
And the advertising was limited to a certain group of people
A lot of the guys who race historic cars for instance, probably don't have a Facebook account to see the online advertising
It's like people who ask for experience with a job interview but aren't willing to give people willing to learn things a decent crack
I voted number 1 for the Amep in the top line and was happy to as I think both Abbott and Rudd have things I don't agree with and I don't trust any of them

If you voted in NSW, then your vote didn't count for the AMEP guy from Victoria, so your vote may have ended up with Pauline Hanson depending on electorate.

350125GO · 09-09-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

I was surprised with amount of 'enthusiasts' we have in this country, that AMEP didn’t get more votes.

Probably because people don't vote on one issue and disagree with AMEPs 'other' policies (do they even have any besides being generally right of the liberal party?)

duaned · 09-09-2013, 08:38 AM

Sorry to go slightly off topic, but were all 76 seats in the Senate up for grabs in this election? For some reason I keep thinking that there are approx. 40 seats that are un-changed in the upper house with the Senate being filled with candidates elected by us last weekend. I have no idea!

csv8 · 09-09-2013, 08:42 AM

duaned The Senate is voted on half each election. If Tony canned get his legislation thru, then he can call a Double Dissolution Election, where the whole Senate is up for re-election. costing us millions...

ELAUBA · 09-09-2013, 02:42 PM

At first glance, it seems like it might be a good thing, and google regurgitated the following:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...909-2tfc4.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...909-2tf8j.html

I hope that the second one is not accurate. You need people representing you who are articulate and can defend their policy position, and then negoatiate for what they are standing for on your behalf. I can't see it happenning in this case, but will be more than happy to be proven wrong. If he becomes a laughing stock like Pauline Hansen did in her previous terms in office, we will have been better off without his representation.

TheSneakiness · 09-09-2013, 02:55 PM

Most are quick to forget the Coalition will gain full Senate power in July next year so any other parties represented is basically null and void.

karj · 09-09-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Most are quick to forget the Coalition will gain full Senate power in July next year so any other parties represented is basically null and void.

Coalition is not set to gain a majority in the senate. Based on current projections of the vote tally, they will have 33 LNP seats in the senate from July next year. They need 39 for a clear majority.

They will need to secure at least 6 votes from other senators from minor parties or independents to pass anything through the senate.

It has the potential to be a challenging senate for Abbott to deal with because the Greens and Labor combined make up 35 seats (only 4 shy of a majority in alliance) but it should be workable for him with the remaining senators, many whom are conservative. It will be even more workable for him if Labor seek to distance themselves from the Greens during the next parliament.

Focused · 09-09-2013, 03:37 PM

More negative press (and rightly so I would have thought: http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/spec...ors_picks=true

MrMaestro · 09-09-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 350125GO

Probably because people don't vote on one issue and disagree with AMEPs 'other' policies (do they even have any besides being generally right of the liberal party?)

That's exactly what I thought. My GF told me she was going to vote for the AMEP and I asked why, based on what policies; all she could name was their policy for uniform road rules across the states.

So I had a look on the AMEP website and couldn't find much. The only clear policy I saw in 3-4 minutes of browsing it (and I shouldn't be expected to dig too deep) was for more relaxed vehicle modification rules. The rest was just very general statements about lower taxes and "family values". I thought 'no thanks'.

I agree with some of their policies but I don't think projecting the image that motoring enthusiasts are small-minded bogans/yobbos who enjoy 4WDing, fishing and modifying their cars is the right approach to be taken seriously.

wookie836 · 09-09-2013, 04:10 PM

good old media, thats muckraking at its finest, shame when you run for the senate and everything youve ever done in jest will be scrutinized and used against you.

Bossxr8 · 09-09-2013, 05:12 PM

But surely you would remove any dodgy content you had posted on facebook, youtube etc.

Makes it so easy to throw mud at you.

wookie836 · 09-09-2013, 05:15 PM

things were deleted and profile set to private apparently, not before the election. few news sites have mentioned people have sent them the images. one said he tweeted a few things, but images showed it was FB

ratter · 09-09-2013, 05:18 PM

Wow, so some of these politicians are just normal people?

Bossxr8 · 09-09-2013, 05:26 PM

Makes a change from the others who think they are gods.

noflac52 · 09-09-2013, 05:40 PM

Here we go again!

The media trying to create a public perception of elected candidates before they even have a chance to take up their relative places in the parliament. I wonder what Tracy and other so called current affairs types will do to these elected candidates in the next few weeks simply because their points of view don't adhere to the mainstream way of thinking that the media have brainwashed the public with over the last twenty years or so.

In the past there have been many socially acceptable politicians who have used their positions to commit crimes against society and feather their own pockets. A level of crime much worse than any of the acts the media releases are trying to pin on these elected candidates.
They all appear to have been elected to office by running on platforms they believe in and wether you agree with their viewpoints is irrelevant they have every right to their opinions. That's what Australia is all about.

They have been elected by the people using our democratic process and they each and every one of them have the right to the same respect that is shown to the mainstream senators.

As for Ricky Muir I would like to congratulate him on being elected to represent motoring enthusiasts through out the country. He is at the moment very raw and as he said before yesterday he was just an ordinary person and when confronted with his first media pack did ok, considering the circumstances and the predatory nature of reporting in this country.

Its now up to the more political savvy members of the AMEP to get behind him and give the kind of support he needs to survive and grow in his position. The kind of support that the major parties give to their elected ones who still manage at times to look like absolute fools even with massive backing. At least he is doesn't appear to be under the illusion that education = smart and if he gets the right kind of help he may prove to be smarter than a lot of the other elected officials.

mr smith · 09-09-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanoraptor

I have no idea who he is, but I can't help feeling a little sorry for Ricky. I suspect the entire AMEP had no real expectations of senate positions - but of course, you certainly don't win by not trying and a new party has to start somewhere.

A few of Ricky's less fine moments have been dragged out on twitter so far, and I've already seen folk use that to reinforce their attitudes of us all as a bunch of antisocial hoons. I hope the press don't crucify him and pick him up as a laugh-at punching bag like they do to inexperienced pollies...

They are going to crucify him.
The radio on the way home was talking about some clip of him on you tube having a kangaroo crap fight?
Car lovers are going to come off looking like inbred fools.

MrMaestro · 09-09-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by noflac52

The media trying to create a public perception of elected candidates before they even have a chance to take up their relative places in the parliament.

The media are in election mode and in particular are going crazy over these "unknowns". Ricky Muir and the others need to get out there discussing their policies and aspirations to everyone who will listen. At the moment the media are only writing about things like Facebook posts because that's all they can find out about him.

This from the ABC -

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Calls to the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party's head office and leadership team have not been returned, while calls to Mr Muir's house have gone unanswered.

When an ABC reporter visited Mr Muir's house today, she was told he was not home but was not given further information about his whereabouts.

It's not vindictive, they're just writing about what they can find. What else can you expect?

wookie836 · 09-09-2013, 06:12 PM

"Thanks to the quirks of minor party preferences some unconventional candidates appear to be headed for the upper house in Canberra. With some of these likely senators dodging the media, journalists are left to piece together their backgrounds from the scraps available online."

thats from the sydney morning herald. muckraking and theyre not putting him in a good light. good to see ABC is playing it smart.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...909-2tf8j.html

Autolite · 09-09-2013, 06:17 PM

Why did Ricky Muir refuse to talk to Neil Mitchell on 3AW this morning? Not a good start in my opinion. I would like to hear what his policies are regarding broader issues as well as motoring.

Pete

bdave351 · 09-09-2013, 06:17 PM

If he really is a "9/11 truther conspiracy theorist" type then I dont hold much hope for him doing anything useful at all, muck racking or not.
If thats his beliefs then....well dont expect to get taken that seriously.

A genuine articulate car enthusiast who can balance 'our' interests and his position on politics in general would have been a boon to car enthusiasts.

MrMaestro · 09-09-2013, 06:19 PM

I completely agree, but it's bit early to write Muir off. I'll wait until parliament resumes to pass judgement.

bungarra · 09-09-2013, 06:31 PM

Julie Bishop already talking about having an inquiry into minor parties ability to use preferences to win seats and she even mentioned AMEP. Funny how Liberals and Labor love the preferencial system when it works for them, but it bites them on the butt and they are not happy.

Looks like the 3 plutocracy parties of Australia are unhappy that they are being challenged by the people. I hope the minor parties hold the government accountable without being to stupid.

I agree, given the amount of us enthusiasts, there was not more support Australia wide.