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Old 15-10-2014, 07:57 PM   #10351
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FGX XR8 idling at Bathurst.

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Old 15-10-2014, 08:47 PM   #10352
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very tuff idle for factory!!
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Old 15-10-2014, 11:57 PM   #10354
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very tuff idle for factory!!

It will be a perfect fit with the HOs then!
Has the FGX XR8 exhaust been revised?

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Old 16-10-2014, 07:08 PM   #10355
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Just read on the FB page, dealers are no longer
taking orders for XR8. Is this true & if so,
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(no rush, there will be plenty to go around)
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Old 16-10-2014, 07:23 PM   #10356
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Just read on the FB page, dealers are no longer
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(no rush, there will be plenty to go around)
Dealers only have what ford allocate to us, which is a very small amount of cars, limited build capacity=low volume production
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Old 16-10-2014, 08:33 PM   #10357
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(no rush, there will be plenty to go around)
The same FB page said they were told by Ford execs there would be plenty of XR8s to go around!!!
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The same FB page said they were told by Ford execs there would be plenty of XR8s to go around!!!
Plenty like 1200?
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Unless its got an after market exhaust, sounds like another v8 car near by??
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yeah FB page said 1200 was b%$$%^&t and dont let the dealers rip you off with the only 1200 talk
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Old 16-10-2014, 08:51 PM   #10361
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The same FB page said they were told by Ford execs there would be plenty of XR8s to go around!!!
That is plenty to go around. How many GENUINE XR8 buyers do you think are out there?
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Old 16-10-2014, 08:55 PM   #10362
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Unless its got an after market exhaust, sounds like another v8 car near by??
nope it was the only car running there, the only car remotely near this was a Focus in a bottlo livery
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Anyone involved in the local Miami supply chain would have seen the schedules by now and know how much truth there is in the figures being sprouted.

That FB page lost all credibility long before he tried to claim his 5 minutes of fame over the XR8........
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That is plenty to go around. How many GENUINE XR8 buyers do you think are out there?
Most buyers don't like waiting, people won't hang around for months because dealers can't supply the car, the genuine people are okay with a few months wait, but that blows out quite quickly when you consider that one dealership may only get one or two cars a quarter. Any more than 6 customers per year and you have a headache to explain to people the issue of supply
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Most buyers don't like waiting, people won't hang around for months because dealers can't supply the car, the genuine people are okay with a few months wait, but that blows out quite quickly when you consider that one dealership may only get one or two cars a quarter. Any more than 6 customers per year and you have a headache to explain to people the issue of supply
I take your point, but if they are an XR8 buyer, they will wait. Hell, they've been waiting 4 years for an XR8 so another few months won't hurt. Now, if they go off and buy an SS, well, they obviously are not a Ford fan through and through, so they have nothing to complain about.
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Unless its got an after market exhaust, sounds like another v8 car near by??
Doesn't sound any different to the GT here... Eg it sounds good, but I don't think it's been changed.
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I take your point, but if they are an XR8 buyer, they will wait. Hell, they've been waiting 4 years for an XR8 so another few months won't hurt. Now, if they go off and buy an SS, well, they obviously are not a Ford fan through and through, so they have nothing to complain about.
Or they may go 'if I have to wait seven months for a xr8 I might as well wait for a mustang'...
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Or they may go 'if I have to wait seven months for a xr8 I might as well wait for a mustang'...
And that's fine. I'm getting a Mustang. My dad is getting a new XR6. At 75, it will be his last new car.
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Do you think those buying a XR8 would also consider a V8 Mustang and vicky verka?

Would have thought that 4 doors and seating 5 means a different reason to buy?
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Do you think those buying a XR8 would also consider a V8 Mustang and vicky verka?

Would have thought that 4 doors and seating 5 means a different reason to buy?
I guess I'm thinking like the single man that I am, but for me when it comes to style and cred, the Mustang has it all over the XR8. I don't need 4 doors. To me, a two door car looks much better and sportier.


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I am in the XR8 line, I am 56, my current ride is 5 years old and be 6 by June when I want the car. Too early for Mustang and although we have seen Muzzy around for a while we have no real idea what quality and reliability will be like. Nor do we know exactly what models will be here, inclusions, special performance models etc. In 5 years time all will be known and I will have a low k XR8. One more thing that is probably unique to me is I have jetskis to tow and by then probably not. I would probably prefer to tow with the XR than the Muzz.
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The Mustang was based off the Falcon, but I think people are confusing the classics with the current.

The old models had styling and cred. The new ones are just more American garbage that we saw in the 1980s Mustang (one of which I drove extensively).

While the American cars are getting a little better since the 80s/90s, they're still pretty poor quality compared to Australian, Japanese and miles behind German stuff. Would be foolish to choose a Mustang over an XR8 IMHO.
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I don't know where he gets his disillusions from. FGX production has only just started. They are not all sold out. You will have to wait but you can put orders down with dealers. I have been talking to 2 dealers and no dramas from either. I will have to wait after I put my order down but that is fine. The XR8 is worth waiting for.
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The Mustang was based off the Falcon, but I think people are confusing the classics with the current.

The old models had styling and cred. The new ones are just more American garbage that we saw in the 1980s Mustang (one of which I drove extensively).

While the American cars are getting a little better since the 80s/90s, they're still pretty poor quality compared to Australian, Japanese and miles behind German stuff. Would be foolish to choose a Mustang over an XR8 IMHO.
Can't get a 2 door XR8. If that makes me a fool, so be it.
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The old models had styling and cred. The new ones are just more American garbage that we saw in the 1980s Mustang (one of which I drove extensively).

While the American cars are getting a little better since the 80s/90s, they're still pretty poor quality compared to Australian, Japanese and miles behind German stuff. Would be foolish to choose a Mustang over an XR8 IMHO.
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It's complete rubbish, don't worry about it.

The car isn't even on sale yet!
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Do you think those buying a XR8 would also consider a V8 Mustang and vicky verka?

Would have thought that 4 doors and seating 5 means a different reason to buy?
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My Zinio, November Wheels arrived . Comparo with FGX and Commy MY15. not a road test but specs. and Holden said "this upgrade to Commy isn't the last" . "There will be more updates before Commy finishes production."
My comment..looks last the last two years are going to be interesting!!! Lets hope FORD responds likewise..
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My Zinio, November Wheels arrived . Comparo with FGX and Commy MY15. not a road test but specs. and Holden said "this upgrade to Commy isn't the last" . "There will be more updates before Commy finishes production."
My comment..looks last the last two years are going to be interesting!!! Lets hope FORD responds likewise..
I think what we see with the FGX is what we will get until end of production cant see Ford doing an FGXII
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