expensive BA GT

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

If I remember right, the prototype BA GT/P in blue that was at the motorshow had a different hump in the bonnet. The end of the hump was shorter and steeper from the front edge and less smoother than that came out in the production vehicles. I also remember that the first posters of the GT also had the different bonnet. I recall that caused a reaction from the crowd and caused Ford to go back and change the design before production started. I am sure I have a photo of it that I'll try and dig out.

The only reason they changed the bonnet was because of the high rate of scrappage of the first version. It would split when pressed. So they were forced to change the design to prevent that from happening. Hence getting rid of that front crease which was causing the problems. As you can see the second version is much smoother and much less inclined to split the metal when pressed.

[GTLEGEND]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The only reason they changed the bonnet was because of the high rate of scrappage of the first version. It would split when pressed. So they were forced to change the design to prevent that from happening. Hence getting rid of that front crease which was causing the problems. As you can see the second version is much smoother and much less inclined to split the metal when pressed.

Thanks Bossxr8, did you work at the casting/stamping plant or AMO in Geelong?

[bangm001]

I remember looking at the BA series cars like in the pics above and at the motor shows when they first came out and especially after the AU lights and shape thinking thank God!! They got it right this time!

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by 98TLS

Wish they had tested and timed a bit longer ie until the mixer shaft in the heater had snapped and the hood lining had fallen down,would have saved thousands of blokes incl of myself thousands

The testing and timing bit, has more to do with how a new model variant went down a full production line.............not quality or durability unfortunately.

Cheers Mick

[MITCHAY]

I think the problem these days is everyone thinks you can ask crazy prices now since they have ceased production.

In my opinion the only way this is worth $200k is many many years down the track.

The bad news is back then no one was really keeping these cars laid up which is why they are worth **** tons now where as there are plenty expecting a profit now for the late models.

My brother is like why did Dad sell his GT or Torana or this or that. It wasn't worth **** back then

[HO 3]

You can not blame the seller for having a red hot go. I also wish them best of luck with the sale.................however if the car is a genuine untouched mint low miler it is probably realistically worth twice the price of a comparative nice condition accident free unit with the same options that presents well and has not been driven into the ground.

Cheers Mick

[boss351290]

I don’t think this guy understands what the market wants. The market wants the best car of the bunch at the time. Eg people would never pay as much for a mint XR GT as they would for a XY, Because the XY was the fastest at the time and considered the best because of this.

Fast forward 40 years the fastest and most powerful falcons of all time are the GTF and sprint. These cars will fetch the highest prices because the were the best and last of their time/era.

A BA GT was the slowest and worst handling GT of the modern era so I believe it will be worth the least. Sorry to say that to BA owners but it’s the truth.

Look at the EB and EL GT they were not fast cars indeed the xr6 at half the price would give those GT falcons a run for their money. So there future value will reflect this. That’s why these cars don’t carry much interest.

I think the Ts50 5.6 litre will be somewhat of a hit.

But the king by far will be a hsv w1 as it’s the fastest and most powerful Aussie built car ever.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by boss351290

I don’t think this guy understands what the market wants. The market wants the best car of the bunch at the time. Eg people would never pay as much for a mint XR GT as they would for a XY, Because the XY was the fastest at the time and considered the best because of this.

Fast forward 40 years the fastest and most powerful falcons of all time are the GTF and sprint. These cars will fetch the highest prices because the were the best and last of their time/era.

A BA GT was the slowest and worst handling GT of the modern era so I believe it will be worth the least. Sorry to say that to BA owners but it’s the truth.

I also thinking the Ts50 5.6 litre will be a hit.

But the king by far will be a hsv w1 as it’s the fastest and most powerful Aussie built car ever.

I think a XRGT will always be more desirable than XT!
Rarity alone... 2 1/2 times more XTGTs built than XR’s 600 odd.

Edit... (coulda sworn you had XT there a minute ago?)

[boss351290]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

I think a XRGT will always be more desirable than XT!
Rarity alone... 2 1/2 times more XTGTs built than XR’s 600 odd.

Edit... (coulda sworn you had XT there a minute ago?)

Rarity is not everything although it is important to a degree. If it was all about rarity then the king would be the TL-50 series 3 5.6 litre. Only one made. You can’t get rarer than that.

I did have xt sorry I was fixing it up when you must have posted

[boss351290]

I did ask you a question some time ago what does pura vida mean??

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by boss351290

I did ask you a question some time ago what does pura vida mean??

Sorry about my mistake re XT, XY..
And Pura Vida basically means Pure Life or Good Life..
Its like the national motto of Costa Rica where I live.

[boss351290]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Sorry about my mistake re XT, XY..
And Pura Vida basically means Pure Life or Good Life..
Its like the national motto of Costa Rica where I live.

No - it was my mistake I was trying to fix it as you posted. Big move leaving the australia and settling over there. I’d love to do that but I haven’t got the balls to tell you the truth. Hope all is going well for you and your family there. You should import a falcon even if it’s only a ****ter and drive it over there.

[boss351290]

If you had lots of superannuation or a few rental properties then you could rent your own house to say one of your kids, and have enough income to live like a king

[5.8]

Originally Posted by bangm001

I remember looking at the BA series cars like in the pics above and at the motor shows when they first came out and especially after the AU lights and shape thinking thank God!! They got it right this time!

............ and then you looked inside

[Sox]

Originally Posted by 5.8

............ and then you looked inside

And then under the bonnet...
And then outside for a second look...
And then...

And then you drove off in your AU.

[290GTP]

Originally Posted by Fiji

Theres a low km bf manual on carsales for low 20s.. nice green colour, with a bit of arm twisting ill grab it closer to 15 than you think.

That expnsive GT Ba is a pilot mule car flogged to test the final production version, not sure who would pay more for it than a final proper poduction verson. A 2007 bf would be better than a 2002 pilot test mule ba.

Got a link? Go twist his arm and grab it for 15k.

[290GTP]

Originally Posted by Sox

And then under the bonnet...
And then outside for a second look...
And then...

And then you drove off in your AU.

And that's just about enough out of you.

[Sox]

Originally Posted by 290GTP

And that's just about enough out of you.

Wot?

[roddy1960]

Kind of a sobering thought on cars like these GT's . I'm in my fifties and grew up getting interested by all sorts of Fords and Holdens . I recall a couple of XY V8's kicking around town , one was a GT that a bloke a few years older than me had . As a teenager waiting to get my licence I ogled XB's , XC's that were newish then as well as Monaro's and hot Torana's from the General .

When I was about 20 I almost bought a demonstrator Escort Rally Pack with the 2.0 engine but settled on a 1.6 GL because that's all I could afford . I did get to test drive the yellow and stripes Rally Pack and what a little rocket that felt like .

I've never owned a GT Falcon . Never owned a V8 either . Circumstances have never aligned for that to happen . One day before I'm too old to do so I'd love to have that chance but prices and exclusivity might even stop that .

As I drive my 2008 FG naturally aspirated XR6 which is the most powerful car I've ever owned though I'm thinking I've been lucky enough to live in an era that it was even possible to think of owning a proper Australian built GT Falcon or similar spec Holden . Then you think of 18-20 year old drivers now who will never get that chance .The first crop of young Australian drivers with no Australian built cars to want for .

The way things are going with SUV's , little runabout hatches and even EV/Hybrids the age of motoring enthusiasts is coming to an end . The car soon enough will be two things only . First is just transport from A to B and secondly cars like a Falcon GT /Turbo Falcon / Monaro / Torana / Commodore will be museum piece oddities .

By the time the current 18 year olds are grandfathers the Australian fast Fords or Holdens will just be a forgotten part of our history .

Maybe I better keep an eye out for that V8 sooner before they're too rare or expensive to find .

[93EB_SXR6]

Just buy an au xr8 if you want a v8. They're cheap as.

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by 93EB_SXR6

Just buy an au xr8 if you want a v8. They're cheap as.

Great thought , really is , but I have my dear old AU ll Futura still going strong . She's part of the family , 15 years so far . When /if I replace the XR6 and if I can find a V8 mint enough for the money I reckon a last hurrah V8 could be then . Either that or I find a nice affordable project car that I can have a go at . Job security agreement negotiations will have a say in that as will a trip I have in the wings to visit a great friend in Baltimore Maryland in a year or so . I'll keep a V8 in the thought process though even if it's not til I retire in about 6 years time.

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

Kind of a sobering thought on cars like these GT's . I'm in my fifties and grew up getting interested by all sorts of Fords and Holdens . I recall a couple of XY V8's kicking around town , one was a GT that a bloke a few years older than me had . As a teenager waiting to get my licence I ogled XB's , XC's that were newish then as well as Monaro's and hot Torana's from the General .

When I was about 20 I almost bought a demonstrator Escort Rally Pack with the 2.0 engine but settled on a 1.6 GL because that's all I could afford . I did get to test drive the yellow and stripes Rally Pack and what a little rocket that felt like .

I've never owned a GT Falcon . Never owned a V8 either . Circumstances have never aligned for that to happen . One day before I'm too old to do so I'd love to have that chance but prices and exclusivity might even stop that .

As I drive my 2008 FG naturally aspirated XR6 which is the most powerful car I've ever owned though I'm thinking I've been lucky enough to live in an era that it was even possible to think of owning a proper Australian built GT Falcon or similar spec Holden . Then you think of 18-20 year old drivers now who will never get that chance .The first crop of young Australian drivers with no Australian built cars to want for .

The way things are going with SUV's , little runabout hatches and even EV/Hybrids the age of motoring enthusiasts is coming to an end . The car soon enough will be two things only . First is just transport from A to B and secondly cars like a Falcon GT /Turbo Falcon / Monaro / Torana / Commodore will be museum piece oddities .

By the time the current 18 year olds are grandfathers the Australian fast Fords or Holdens will just be a forgotten part of our history .

Maybe I better keep an eye out for that V8 sooner before they're too rare or expensive to find .

Like you Roddy i never had a GT either,did have an XT sedan/XW ute/XYGS XD Ute with 351/BA XR6 ute/BA XR8 ute and current BA GTP which having owned for 3 years wont be parted with A its a GTP and B i love the thing to be fair by the time current 18 year olds are grandfathers i will be long gone and what they think of anything i wont be bothered with i will however be resting having gone to my grave having owned a GT Falcon which is as good as it gets pretty much,what its worth then who knows i wont care.In a perfect world there would be both my BA GTP and and XY in the shed but ****e happens,if its an 8 you want fella get about getting one lifes to short eh.

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by 93EB_SXR6

Just buy an au xr8 if you want a v8. They're cheap as.

There getting rare on account of Sox having so many.

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by 5.8

............ and then you looked inside

I dont mind the way they look inside,my GTP was well tasty inside until the hoodlining fell down and then my **** went through the crap stitching on drivers seat.

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Rarity is not everything although it is important to a degree. If it was all about rarity then the king would be the TL-50 series 3 5.6 litre. Only one made. You can’t get rarer than that.

I did have xt sorry I was fixing it up when you must have posted

Or the XW HO in Royal Umber (spelling) with whatever trim specs the one i was lucky enough to have a gander at a few months ago has,complete with all the paperwork verifying the one of one bit.

[last Outlaw]

Originally Posted by boss351290

I don’t think this guy understands what the market wants. The market wants the best car of the bunch at the time. Eg people would never pay as much for a mint XR GT as they would for a XY, Because the XY was the fastest at the time and considered the best because of this.

Fast forward 40 years the fastest and most powerful falcons of all time are the GTF and sprint. These cars will fetch the highest prices because the were the best and last of their time/era.

A BA GT was the slowest and worst handling GT of the modern era so I believe it will be worth the least. Sorry to say that to BA owners but it’s the truth.

Look at the EB and EL GT they were not fast cars indeed the xr6 at half the price would give those GT falcons a run for their money. So there future value will reflect this. That’s why these cars don’t carry much interest.

I think the Ts50 5.6 litre will be somewhat of a hit.

But the king by far will be a hsv w1 as it’s the fastest and most powerful Aussie built car ever.

Disagree ............ fastest and most powerful don't make it the most sought after or future money makers . That decision is in the eye of the beholders , we all have our different reasons on what makes our FORD valuable , so just enjoy your ride .

Agree it's steep for a BA but hay ..... good luck to him

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Thanks Bossxr8, did you work at the casting/stamping plant or AMO in Geelong?

Engine plant. But my dad was in stamping and structures engineering.

[au350hp]

[QUOTE=last Outlaw;6125723]Disagree ............ fastest and most powerful don't make it the most sought after or future money makers . That decision is in the eye of the beholders , we all have our different reasons on what makes our FORD valuable , so just enjoy your ride . QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. As I have gotten older, my whole attitude has changed regarding 60's & 70's Fords. I love XW sedans and as great as the GT is, its the shape I love so a nice Fairmont or 500 in good condition is just as pleasing.

[GT0132]

[QUOTE=Roostercam;6126274]

Originally Posted by last Outlaw

Disagree ............ fastest and most powerful don't make it the most sought after or future money makers . That decision is in the eye of the beholders , we all have our different reasons on what makes our FORD valuable , so just enjoy your ride . QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. As I have gotten older, my whole attitude has changed regarding 60's & 70's Fords. I love XW sedans and as great as the GT is, its the shape I love so a nice Fairmont or 500 in good condition is just as pleasing.

I'm the opposite. I couldn't wait to rid myself of my 1977 XC Fairmont 5.8L GXL ...by 1985 it had become a rusty ol POS and not a week went by when there wasn't a new problem with it. When I was offered good coin to change over to an XF Ghia ($2,500) I grabbed it.

[au350hp]

Originally Posted by GT0132

I'm the opposite. I couldn't wait to rid myself of my 1977 XC Fairmont 5.8L GXL ...by 1985 it had become a rusty ol POS and not a week went by when there wasn't a new problem with it. When I was offered good coin to change over to an XF Ghia ($2,500) I grabbed it.

I'd rather have the rusty GXL today than the XF, but we all know the benefit of hindsight. I gave my MK1 GT Cortina to my older brother after I bought another Ford as he had no car. I found out he totally destroyed it through neglect like he has every car since & that was 30 years ago.