Now takes only 24 weeks average wage to buy a Falcon

[MercurySilver]

I lol"ed

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Nothing special earning $18-20/hr 25 years ago, any labourer on any building site would have been getting that.

Nope. $28,902 per annum = $13.90/hour. And that was the average wage in 1990. The weekly wage (including supplementary and safety payments) for a builder's labourer was $418.70 which equates to around $10.50/hour. [National Building and Construction Industry Award 1990-18.1.2]

[Ratmick]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

you win tonights bell end award

Only one hand on the trophy though

[Windsor220]

I think XB coupe must be from a remote area because even today unskilled labourers dont get paid a great deal.

[mik]

i worked on a farm in WA about 20 years ago, the farm was 5000 acres , back then his average pay per year if all went well was about 25 k , he had 2 ten year old cars, and a very beat up ute and a 30 year old tray truck, no motor bikes , one modern tractor a couple of oldies , and a lot of his other farm gear was from his father, and it was antique , a lot of his income was dependent on the weather .
it was very obvious to me he wasnt well off.

no doubt some farmers are well off , but what i have seen a lot of them are doing it tuff..

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

How do they eat??

And what do they do?? Collect trolleys at Wollies on a Thursday night??

Seriously even a basic farm had driving a tractor earns more than that, untrained labourer will nearly double your figures. My missus earned double that just tagging bails at the local cotton gin.

I remember earning 38k probably 25 years ago as a labourer in a factory sweeping floors.

Three of us are qualified auto electricians, $38K/year is our award wage, there isn't much coin for auto tradies which is why hardly any of the apprentices stay in their trades when qualified.

Mind you I own my own business and control my wage, I pay myself the award wage, but its reality for a lot of people in my trade.

Hell there seems to be a big issue locally that employers weren't even paying super and overtime.

One of my customers is owed $30K in wages by a previous employer.

Let alone pulling in $75K.

[Angeldust]

im on the average wage finally.. Im at the top of my payscale for my position in public service. Im in the PO (Proffesional Officer) paystream, which for my job is PO3, This is equivalent to the AO5 payscale somebody mentioned previously. Eventually when the position is available I will be able to move to a PO4 payscale, but this is a senior position, equivalent to AO6 in the admin officer paystream (around $85-90K)..

ps have never bought a new car....

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Three of us are qualified auto electricians, $38K/year is our award wage, there isn't much coin for auto tradies which is why hardly any of the apprentices stay in their trades when qualified.

Mind you I own my own business and control my wage, I pay myself the award wage, but its reality for a lot of people in my trade.

Hell there seems to be a big issue locally that employers weren't even paying super and overtime.

One of my customers is owed $30K in wages by a previous employer.

Let alone pulling in $75K.

Never been an auto electrician, never worked for award wage, I can tell you now there is no way I could live on that money. My mortgage repayments were nearly 30K when I was living in Sydney, so 38K before tax income I would be out in the street, that was 15 years ago.

Even with no mortgage now I could not live on 38K.

In 1992, I was clearing $1500 per week working six days a week (Mon -Sat) doing labouring (10 hr days 7am to 5:30pm), I think people need to get out of their comfort zone and look around.

Missus is currently working three days a week 6 hrs a day getting 26K a year.

I am working four days a week getting well above what is stated here as the average wage.

[Syndrome]

Cheap to buy but only 6,000 odd were sold in 2015.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Never been an auto electrician, never worked for award wage, I can tell you now there is no way I could live on that money. My mortgage repayments were nearly 30K when I was living in Sydney, so 38K before tax income I would be out in the street, that was 15 years ago.

Even with no mortgage now I could not live on 38K.

In 1992, I was clearing $1500 per week working six days a week (Mon -Sat) doing labouring (10 hr days 7am to 5:30pm), I think people need to get out of their comfort zone and look around.

Missus is currently working three days a week 6 hrs a day getting 26K a year.

I am working four days a week getting well above what is stated here as the average wage.

Its hard out there jobs wise in 2016, the thing is the construction industry wants experienced labourers not auto electricians looking to eat tomorrow

My cousin has been trying to get in as a labourer anywhere, done a lot of free trials, he is a very experienced chef, cut his teeth in Melbourne restaurants working 12+ hour back to back shifts, gives it 110%.

Thing is the construction industry wants construction workers not chefs trying to break free from their kitchen prisons.

Same as me, I qualified and ditched my trade, ended up unemployed for 18 months signing paperwork and attending meetings, gained multiple qualifications in OHS, Investigations and Auditing.

The amount of moolah I've spent on shiny pieces of paper with my name on them, I could have been driving to my workshop in a HSV Grange instead of a LV Focus

Ended up dusting of the tools and swinging spanners on cars again.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Its hard out there jobs wise in 2016, the thing is the construction industry wants experienced labourers not auto electricians looking to eat tomorrow

My cousin has been trying to get in as a labourer anywhere, done a lot of free trials, he is a very experienced chef, cut his teeth in Melbourne restaurants working 12+ hour back to back shifts, gives it 110%.

Thing is the construction industry wants construction workers not chefs trying to break free from their kitchen prisons.

Same as me, I qualified and ditched my trade, ended up unemployed for 18 months signing paperwork and attending meetings, gained multiple qualifications in OHS, Investigations and Auditing.

The amount of moolah I've spent on shiny pieces of paper with my name on them, I could have been driving to my workshop in a HSV Grange instead of a LV Focus

Ended up dusting of the tools and swinging spanners on cars again.

Go into teaching Big D. Above average salary, twelve weeks holiday every year, five hour working day, no dirt under the fingernails unless you want to...

Off course there are downsides but as I sit here in the 5th week of my Christmas holidays they seem to have evaporated...

I could never go back to working as a diesel mechanic...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by superyob

Go into teaching Big D. Above average salary, twelve weeks holiday every year, five hour working day, no dirt under the fingernails unless you want to...

Off course there are downsides but as I sit here in the 5th week of my Christmas holidays they seem to have evaporated...

I could never go back to working as a diesel mechanic...

Its on the cards, I'm looking at eventually ending up in teaching or in politics, or both

[MercurySilver]

i must be doing something wrong
23 years ago i wasnt earning $1500 a week (take home) being a pleb

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

In 1992, I was clearing $1500 per week working six days a week (Mon -Sat) doing labouring (10 hr days 7am to 5:30pm), I think people need to get out of their comfort zone and look around.

Not a hope on hell did you as a Labourer in 1992 clear $1,500 / week! That is $110K per year before tax in 1992, at a time when a house in Sydney was $180K, so house in the western suburbs would be under $100K.

What do Labourers get now? $500K per year?

Average weekly earnings in 1992 was $670 so clearing $500/week, but labouring you managed 4 times the average, given the much higher tax bracket you would have been in at the time....

That is off with the fairies stuff.

[jmack]

in 92 as a level 7 sparky was about $14 hr which was about $600 with extras gross a week.wasted my time if you were taking home $1500 a week doing a trade.only just got to those figs now for a basic week as a dual qualif sparkie/gas fitter

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Not a hope on hell did you as a Labourer in 1992 clear $1,500 / week! That is $110K per year before tax in 1992, at a time when a house in Sydney was $180K, so house in the western suburbs would be under $100K.

What do Labourers get now? $500K per year?

Average weekly earnings in 1992 was $670 so clearing $500/week, but labouring you managed 4 times the average, given the much higher tax bracket you would have been in at the time....

That is off with the fairies stuff.

He was doing 60 hours a week though so a fair bit was probably overtime. There is a small possibility he may have earnt that but it definitely wasn't the norm like he is saying. It sounds almost FIFO like. Higher than average hourly rate with plenty of hours.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Not a hope on hell did you as a Labourer in 1992 clear $1,500 / week! That is $110K per year before tax in 1992, at a time when a house in Sydney was $180K, so house in the western suburbs would be under $100K.

What do Labourers get now? $500K per year?

Average weekly earnings in 1992 was $670 so clearing $500/week, but labouring you managed 4 times the average, given the much higher tax bracket you would have been in at the time....

That is off with the fairies stuff.

Maybe he had links with the CFMEU!!!
That will explain the high wage as a labourer.

[Stefan]

I didn't read the other page he was earning $38K in '90 sweeping floors in a factory then $110K in '92 labouring.

Someone is in LALA land.

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

In 1992, I was clearing $1500 per week working six days a week (Mon-Sat) doing labouring (10 hr days 7am to 5:30pm)...

I'm sorry, but I'm having difficulty equating these figures with what I was earning as a storeman/packer in the electronics industry in 1997. Your hourly rate at 60 hours gives a figure of around $28.75/hr before tax, or around $89K/year. Whereas I was earning $28K/year or around $15/hr 5 years later. How can you explain that sort of difference—especially considering I was getting (slightly) above award wages?

I am working four days a week getting well above what is stated here as the average wage.

Highest, recent average 5-day wages according to the ABS were $1136.90/week ($59K/year) in the second quarter of 2015. Would you mind telling us what industry you're working in, and what your work classification is? Thanks.

[Sioso]

That's a hell of a lot of car for $29,990 driveaway

http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/deta...17104953/?Cr=1

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by Sioso

That's a hell of a lot of car for $29,990 driveaway

Uh... no photos and zero kms. Sounds shonky to me.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by SYZ

Uh... no photos and zero kms. Sounds shonky to me.

There are 15 photos when I look at it.
And other dealers selling the same for around $30k, nothing shonky about it.

[Boosted8]

Originally Posted by Sioso

There are 15 photos when I look at it.
And other dealers selling the same for around $30k, nothing shonky about it.

There are plenty of photos... but they all clearly state "Sample photo only. Not actual vehicle."

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by Boosted8

There are plenty of photos... but they all clearly state "Sample photo only. Not actual vehicle."

Yeah like just about every other dealer's photo's on Carsales........

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by Sioso

Yeah like just about every other dealer's photo's on Carsales........

Nope... only unplated new vehicles. And how can you explain the zero kms on a 2-year-old used vehicle? It's also a breach of regulations for a dealer to not disclose a used vehicle's odometer reading in any advertisement according to the WA Motor Vehicle Dealers Act 1973.

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by SYZ

Nope... only unplated new vehicles. And how can you explain the zero kms on a 2-year-old used vehicle? It's also a breach of regulations for a dealer to not disclose a used vehicle's odometer reading in any advertisement according to the WA Motor Vehicle Dealers Act 1973.

Time to put your tin foil hat down. Nothing about that add is suspicious.

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

Time to put your tin foil hat down. Nothing about that add is suspicious.

So you'd be more than happy to purchase a used vehicle from me sight unseen (they offer "free transport" from Perth) without either its registration number or its odometer reading being disclosed? Seriously?

BTW, I have a cheap waterfront block for sale.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I didn't read the other page he was earning $38K in '90 sweeping floors in a factory then $110K in '92 labouring.

Someone is in LALA land.

Yes as you may recall two different jobs, I would be an idiot if I had not moved forward in the world and took opportunities to earn more money when they presented, one was working in a factory doing 38hrs per week sweeping floors, taking rubbish to the tip, loading and unlading trucks etc etc what ever needed to be done the next was working as a trade labourer for a rigger at Clyde refinery doing 60hrs a week (6x10hr days), 2hrs OT daily pus 10hrs OT on Saturdays before getting my own tickets. and changing jobs again, and again ,and again.

I also remember earning $74 per week back in 1985, but fortunately I did not stay at Franklins stacking shelves on a Thursday night for the rest of my life, I looked for opportunities and moved on.

I think there is only one person in Lala land here, and that would be the one with short memory.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by SYZ

So you'd be more than happy to purchase a used vehicle from me sight unseen (they offer "free transport" from Perth) without either its registration number or its odometer reading being disclosed? Seriously?

BTW, I have a cheap waterfront block for sale.

I think any rational person would ring the dealership, they are a dealership so people living in WA may actually come to have a look at it - it's not like the ad is saying send me some money via western union and I promise to ship a car to you.
That amount of paranoia is unhealthy

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Its hard out there jobs wise in 2016, the thing is the construction industry wants experienced labourers not auto electricians looking to eat tomorrow

My cousin has been trying to get in as a labourer anywhere, done a lot of free trials, he is a very experienced chef, cut his teeth in Melbourne restaurants working 12+ hour back to back shifts, gives it 110%.

Thing is the construction industry wants construction workers not chefs trying to break free from their kitchen prisons.

Same as me, I qualified and ditched my trade, ended up unemployed for 18 months signing paperwork and attending meetings, gained multiple qualifications in OHS, Investigations and Auditing.

The amount of moolah I've spent on shiny pieces of paper with my name on them, I could have been driving to my workshop in a HSV Grange instead of a LV Focus

Ended up dusting of the tools and swinging spanners on cars again.

You might be right, I have not changed jobs for around 8 years now.

You just need to move out of your comfort zone if you want to change jobs for more money. I would have though auto electricians would be on more money.

Last time I worked in the construction industry was about 8-9 years ago I was on $35/hr, plus $25per day site allowance, plus a work car/ute/truck to take home every day and drive to site, plus a mobile phone, plus overtime when ever I wanted it.

People out here earn good money and more often than not get houses and vehicles provided as part of the deal. Local Cotton Processing Plant is starting to hire now, even the lowest **** kicker will take home $1400 per week, with supervisors and skilled trades getting a lot more than that. We get people coming up from Sydney and down from Brisbane every year for the season to work.

Some of you people remind me of my father in law, spending his days complaining how everyone earned more than him but never moved from his crap job paying minimum wage.