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Old 26-05-2012, 08:24 PM   #61
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Fixed that for ya, so nobody makes a mistake they'll regrett.

Thanks Rodge, I guess you've driven one too. As I stated in some previous thread about these things ... the 5 speed auto box labours through gear selection like an old Borg Warner from 30 years ago.
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Old 27-05-2012, 05:21 AM   #62
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Thanks Rodge, I guess you've driven one too. As I stated in some previous thread about these things ... the 5 speed auto box labours through gear selection like an old Borg Warner from 30 years ago.
I have read many reviews on the 300C over the years & while not a fast shifting box have never heard them say its as bad as your saying it is.

However it does not matter as they are fitting 8 speed ZF's in them already in the states ( 8-Speed Auto Transmission with E-Shifter ) so most likely thats what we will get (apart from the SRT-8 version) which still has the 5 speed.

http://youtu.be/HRkzk4lE490

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Old 27-05-2012, 11:29 AM   #63
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Having watched one of the YouTube videos of the 300C, all I can say is that thing is phenomenal, some of the features that thing has got are amazing, with the mind boggling performance and beauty to match. I must have one!
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Old 27-05-2012, 12:20 PM   #64
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Having watched one of the YouTube videos of the 300C, all I can say is that thing is phenomenal, some of the features that thing has got are amazing, with the mind boggling performance and beauty to match. I must have one!
Its going to give the Calais and the G6E a run for their money..The V8 is same price as Calais and G6E !!!! and Ford reckons no market for a G8E!!!
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Its going to give the Calais and the G6E a run for their money..The V8 is same price as Calais and G6E !!!! and Ford reckons no market for a G8E!!!
Yeah, for sure. Ford and Holden are in trouble, especially Ford for not having a V8 luxury sedan!
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Old 27-05-2012, 02:33 PM   #66
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Yeah, for sure. Ford and Holden are in trouble, especially Ford for not having a V8 luxury sedan!
thats one thing i couldnt work out about the fairlane and LTD being axed
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Old 27-05-2012, 03:17 PM   #67
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thats one thing i couldnt work out about the fairlane and LTD being axed
Yeah, I don't think it was Ford's smartest move...
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Old 27-05-2012, 03:36 PM   #68
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It was only selling less than 200 a month, I think they were justified in doing it.

Just look at the sales figures for the Caprice, with Statesman and Fairlane dead it pretty much has the market to itself and still only sells around 150 a month.

LWB market is dead.
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Old 27-05-2012, 03:44 PM   #69
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It was only selling less than 200 a month, I think they were justified in doing it.

Just look at the sales figures for the Caprice, with Statesman and Fairlane dead it pretty much has the market to itself and still only sells around 150 a month.

LWB market is dead.
What I meant was, that although they weren't selling many a month, they now have no competition for cars such as the new 300C...
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Very sexy cars and for those prices...
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Old 27-05-2012, 04:08 PM   #71
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Thanks Rodge, I guess you've driven one too. As I stated in some previous thread about these things ... the 5 speed auto box labours through gear selection like an old Borg Warner from 30 years ago.
Yeap you nailed it mate. OTOH ZF 8 Speed is pure gold and changes so smoothe its hot knife through melted butter stuff, smoother than liquid honey, talk about chalk and cheese.

I really, really like the tech in the SRT8 and will drive one when its fitted with the 8 speed ZF but I'm not sold on the looks and will reserve judgement till I see it in the metal...
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Old 27-05-2012, 04:42 PM   #72
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Im keen to have a gander when they are officially released, and will definately be keen to see what else chrysler may end up offering as a result of the new setup with FIAT.
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TOP GEAR AUSTRALIA June 2012 magazine page 175.
If TG have the prices right..Ford and Holden are in for a sales battle.
Sedan Petrol. 3.5i $39,990. Diesel $45,990.
Hemi V8 5.7i $45990. Thats going to hurt Calais and G6E sales.
SRT-8 $64,990 and thats going to hurt FPV and HSV sales.
It will be interesting to see how the sales go on the new 300C!!!
Its priced very competively...
You are looking at the prices they ended up reducing the 'old' 300c down too.
If you look at the picture it has a picture of the old one and has a quote about how they hate it and the new ones is not far off

Not sure what the price of the new one will be, but it probably won't be far off the mark. Since they seam to be dropping price in a hope to get more buyers. Example new Grand Cherokee. You see them everywhere.

Apparently the new 300c will not bring the 5.7 to Australia. But they have that engine in the new Grand, so idont see why they wouldn't have the 5.7
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I just watched the 25min video about the features of the SRT8 and its up their when i look at buying my next car. Im not a auto fan, but i can use my bike for speed thing and the srt8 will be a cruiser
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Old 31-05-2012, 10:11 AM   #75
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When I was at high school I was a one eyed Mopar fan. I wanted a worked 360 Charger, or eventually a 426 with some sort of forced induction. But when the time came to buy my first car I bought a 302C XB Fairmont wagon and stuck with Ford. Back in the 80's everyone thought I was a nut, but I'm glad Chrysler have come back with some style and even better muscle. I saw a hot V8 Jeep the other day that just flogged it around the place. Note even revving, just dig in and off with one hell of a loud meaty note that could be heard for about 2km. That's the sort of Mopar we're talking about. I always thought it a pity Ford never went the V8 route with the Territory, or even kept the Turbo 6's. If I went the V8 SUV route it would be a Hemi Jeep for sure. I'd be finally revisiting my high school way of thinking.
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Old 31-05-2012, 10:20 AM   #76
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After watching the long video about the 300C I can safely say my FG is at least 10 years behind on vehicle technology and design … shame really but I just can’t see the Falcon being able to close the gap with the next update or even the one after … Holden might have a chance with the VF but even that’s looks less likely than likely …
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FFS The STR-8 is going to be a good buy @ 65k!
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thats one thing i couldnt work out about the fairlane and LTD being axed
The rot set in when they axed the well-known and immediately identifiable "Fairmont" and "Fairmont Ghia"...people, even non-Ford or non-car-enthusaist people, knew straight away what they were. I've grown heartily sick of explaining "we drive a G6E...that's a Falcon...the top of the line one...a luxury version of the normal Falcon..."
Say "We drive a Fairmont", and everyone knows what you mean.

The "letter cars" for Chrysler have a similar appeal (not so much for Australia, but it's growing). In the USA say you drive a 300C, and everyone knows what it is. Imagine if they dropped the letter designation and gave it a name? No one would know what you're talking about.

Some car makers vastly underestimate the importance of keeping a certain name going to retain an image...Chysler understood this when they first brought out the 300C, a name which had graced legendary luxury/performance cars in past decades.
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The SRT8 will be around $68K plus on-roads. I've spoken to a dealer but the final equipment list is not available for another couple of weeks. Black Chrome package is about $2500 and I think $1250 for the leather touches to dashboard, console, door arm rests. Dual pane sunroof seems like $3K+

I've done a bit of research and am keen to at least have a test drive.
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The SRT8 will be around $68K plus on-roads. I've spoken to a dealer but the final equipment list is not available for another couple of weeks. Black Chrome package is about $2500 and I think $1250 for the leather touches to dashboard, console, door arm rests. Dual pane sunroof seems like $3K+

I've done a bit of research and am keen to at least have a test drive.
Get a quote to change the spark-plugs, some insane figure they tell me
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Yes, very fair prices, and it's a vastly improved vehicle too [but putting LanciaThema badges on it was NOT cool]

Since FIAT have taken over Chrysler/Jeep they have slashed the prices and loaded the vehicles with kit, they want to be a main volume player, not a small time effort like ATECO and Benz.

Jeep are going gangbusters in sales, i am sure its going to be the same for the 300C, new GC Jeep SRT is already a sellout and not even here yet!

TV Commercial of the year too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHozLw6f5rI

I hate to tell you but that chrysler in that youtube video is the smaller 200C.
Check the Chrsyler website and you'll see.

If you wanna see a cool new 300C in white, already modified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYmWNhqwqkQ

Also in america they have 300C, 300S the 300 SRT8 model aswell. It also come with red leather interior.

http://www.chrysler.com/en/2012/300/models/
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I hate to tell you but that chrysler in that youtube video is the smaller 200C.
Check the Chrsyler website and you'll see.

If you wanna see a cool new 300C in white, already modified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYmWNhqwqkQ

Also in america they have 300C, 300S the 300 SRT8 model aswell. It also come with red leather interior.

http://www.chrysler.com/en/2012/300/models/
just wanted to add that the photographer who filmed the new cool 300c white also filmed this little pocket rocket....check it out ooh yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgs9u...hannel&list=UL
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just wanted to add that the photographer who filmed the new cool 300c white also filmed this little pocket rocket....check it out ooh yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgs9u...hannel&list=UL
hahaha!!! Where the cars??? Was there any lol
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just wanted to add that the photographer who filmed the new cool 300c white also filmed this little pocket rocket....check it out ooh yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgs9u...hannel&list=UL

Best clip EVER!!!
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But what interesting is 300c are very popular in Europe, even in Germany the home of lusury car makers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1YV...eature=related
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um nice white with the panoramic roof
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[quote=MAFIA]I hate to tell you but that chrysler in that youtube video is the smaller 200C.

I know, i just like the video and music of MM [Not chocolate's]

EVERY vehicle Chrysler Group currently make are very average, only decent things are the new Dart and GrandCherokee
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I hate to tell you but that chrysler in that youtube video is the smaller 200C.

I know, i just like the video and music of MM [Not chocolate's]

EVERY vehicle Chrysler Group currently make are very average, only decent things are the new Dart and GrandCherokee
Totally disagree, the 300, Ram, Durango, Challenger, Charger, and Wrangler are all fantastic, well-made vehicles.
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Totally disagree, the 300, Ram, Durango, Challenger, Charger, and Wrangler are all fantastic, well-made vehicles.
When these vehicles win or get close to the top of JD Powers and other customer feedback surveys, plus what we see at workshops for brand new vehicles and general owner comments/feedback, i will change my opinion!

Like i said "average" not junk, just average, to make a premium quality vehicle it has to start right at the drawing board with a clean sheet design.

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to make a premium quality vehicle it has to start right at the drawing board with a clean sheet design
Which is exactly what they did with the Ram and Durango. The Wrangler is not totally new, but if it didn't have Dana solid axles front and rear, it just wouldn't be a Wrangler... but you really have to drive them or go inside them to appreciate how different they are from their predecessors. The Ram for example, with the Longhorn interior, Durango Citadel - it's very Euro-like in quality, but with the Hemi performance, they turned it into something that could hold its own against an X5, which I have also driven.

Oh and as for JD Powers, well if you trust their opinion more than your own, then best of luck to you. They also like DirecTV, but somehow not everybody is happy with their rip-off pricing.
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