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12-12-2006, 05:06 PM | #31 | ||
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One things for sure, the tech always increases and the price drops....
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12-12-2006, 08:07 PM | #34 | ||
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Theres a #IV now???? cheerin
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27-12-2006, 02:38 PM | #35 | ||
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Though I don't have the latest TV's, just a 100hz, as a movie collector since 1980 of beta, US and Aus VHS, NTSC laserdisc and DVD, I keep my eyes on imdb video forum and today I checked on there to find that HD DVD is winning the war in the US
The HD DVD units are half the price and the samsung player seen at JB hi fi stores now has playback issues when it was new over there
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27-12-2006, 03:36 PM | #36 | ||
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The biggest thing that pi$$es me off about all this television stuff and new dvd's is that none of it is designed to last anymore.
I have had the same tv for over 10 years now (59cm Sony TV), and would just love to update into somthing bigger, nicer and newer, but I dont want to spend lots, because it's all getting like mobile phones where new models come out every 6 effin months..... I dont watch tv much as there is stuff all on that is interesting, foxtel and austar are plain rip offs, and until you can choose your own tv packages they will never get my business. I do like to watch DVD's, allthough I would be a mite tad pi$$ed off if I had to update those too (aka blue ray etc)...... I have heard about the Plasma vs LCD talk, and that thing where they say plasmas have a limited time life span, and all this new stuff is just well past me... So what should I do? Any advice will be of help....
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27-12-2006, 03:59 PM | #37 | ||
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Hey I've got equipment in use today from 1969 including a B & W national panasonic TV and a sansui amplifier and wharfedale speakers
I think just wait. Be patient and wait until at least june 07. Personally, I would go LCD. Parents have one, sister has three and they so far have worked perfectly. I find foxtel excellent for certain things but yes I agree, you can't have exactly what you want and lose out at least a couple of your favourite channels whichever package you choose. I have it mainly for nascar and other motorsports like motor gp and boxing but also tv 1 and fox 8 simpsons Stick with current DVD's I can tell you this. The best dvd recorder/VHS combo machine to get for those interested is the Panasonic DMR ES35V it's $448 at JB's I bought my friend one recently. In built time base corrector for VHS restoration and transfer to DVD
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01-01-2007, 05:06 PM | #38 | |||
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a) Not sure about LCD, but modern plasma's are designed to last 60000 hours before they begin to fade. 55000 if you set your contrast/brightness higher than normal. 60K optimum lifespan / 24 hours (if you watch it 24 hours a day!) / 365 days = 6.8 years lifespan before you should notice any dimming. All things being fair and equal, you'll get 10 years out of a plasma, but chances are you'll wanna get the next big new thing well before this happens. b) Good DVD players 'upscale' quality DVDs and they look excellent. BlueRay looks brilliant, but it's far too dear in my opinion for the upgrade you get. Well worth waiting to see if 1) the price comes down considerably, 2) the reliability and features of BR/HDDVD players improves, and 3) seeing which format ultimately comes out on top. No BetaMax/VHS wars for THIS little black duck thankyouverymuch! c) Plasma vs LCD. LCD is higher resolution but that is not really important accept for in the case of true full HD content (BlueRay, theorhetical HD quality on free to air TV, etc). Plasma, 9 times out of 10, will have much better black levels, and I find plasma colour to generally look far more natural. If you watch movies in the dark, get plasma. With caliberation and lots of testing, plasma usually seems a little easier to get the right colour out of. LCD is not a poor option by any means though. LCDs are getting much better at black levels, and some are nearly comparable to plasma, but you will probably pay more than a comparable plasma. Plasma's are far more susceptable to screen burn than LCDs, but it can be easily avoided if you remember to change channel at ad breaks. Old 4:3 shows will leave dark but temporary shadowing on plasmas at the unused left and right extremities, but this fades with a small amount of widescreen viewing. If you're careful, screen burn in its many forms is not a problem, but if you're not able or willing to make the effort then LCD is for you. |
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01-01-2007, 07:28 PM | #39 | ||
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Thanks for the info, that helps some. May just get a cheapie tv for now until they decide which way things will ultimatly go. As for the dvd players, I may just get a cheapie junker till the consumer market decides which technology is going to take hold.
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With the contast ratio's being mentioned in this thread could some advise me what the lastest Samsung 32 " LCD HD with inbuilt HD tuner has? As my Mum just bought one & I was over there on boxing day watching the cricket & picture & sound are superb.
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Personally I run a standard 68cm CRT TV for regular t.v. and then have a 140 inch motorised drop down (from the ceiling cavity) projector screen ($120 bucks new from ebay, 1 year on and still going strong) for movies (generally burnt DVD's from torrents). Projector was a give-away PC data one from my wifes work so resolution is not great and I am looking to upgrade - I am guessing from the info here that going for any projector under 1080i is going to be a waste of time and money?
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02-01-2007, 03:44 PM | #45 | |||
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That was a concise and pretty accurate breakdown of the technologies- very good reading! I have been in the industry for several years now and there is a vast amount of conflicting information around at the moment which serves to confuse customers to no end. We need to bear in mind that Australia was the first country that ran a PAL based TV system rather than NTSC to adopt HDTV....at a time when we couldn't even broadcast the Olympics in widescreen! HDTV was developed in 1994 by Toshiba in an attempt to "fix" the poorer quality NTSC broadcast quality used in Japan and the U.S. Certain maufacturers took advantage of the market by inaccurately rating their monitors as HD ready as was earlier mentioned. I would like to mention that HDMI (high definition multimedia interface) is NOT necessarily better picture quality than component, and in fact, can be worse. The whole point of HDMI is that it can carry digital video signals and uncompressed multi-channel audio down a single cable rather than separate 3 lead component and digital or descrete audio leads. You are still limited by the run of cable used with HDMI- if you are using a projector that is more than about 15m from the source, I would reccommend Component as its signal loss over a distance declines slowly rather than dropping out either intermittently or altogether as it is a binary digital signal. You also don't need an audio signal going to the projector! Original HDMI could only run video and 2 channel audio whereas the latest versions can run video and multi channel audio with a hell of a lot of bandwith to spare. Even with a HD video signal and 6.1 audio being run, you will be using around 60% of the HDMI capability.
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02-01-2007, 04:17 PM | #46 | ||
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Poorer quality. I don't know about broadcasting etc but compare an NTSC laserdisc or VHS video (especially those made from 96 to 02 to an equivalent PAL one and you'll find the US one better. How much depends on the age of the PAL equivalent. Especially when played on a Toshiba VW80 8 Head VHS VCR and NTSC 3.58 mhz playback TV.
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It is remarkebly easy for spec sheets to be misleading- as you said, you need to see them personally to judge...you look at tv's, you dont look at specs. However, bear in mind that a salesman who has just bought 60 brand "x" plasma for a deal can quite easily set it up to make it look better than the brand "y" one next to it, regardless of the real quality because he needs to move them.....plenty of research is good as well as looking at the same tv's in different stores. Unlike speakers, TV's are not subjective, they are objective. one person's ear may prefer the sound and tone of a particular speaker but this does not work for visual quality other than brightness preferences.
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02-01-2007, 09:37 PM | #48 | |||
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That said, I read recently of a person getting the plasma we have VIERA Panasonic Viera 42PV60A (HD) for $2100 (rpp $3400!!!). That's a bargain if ever I heard one. For that price, many could easily afford to change it over again in 2-3 years to something higher res when HD/BR DVD has got a clear winner (be it from a sales or technology point of view). It's one of the most reliable ones on the market and it has one of the best pictures out there (especially for the price). This + good quality HDMI DVD player FTW*. *For The Win, non internet nerdy types! That all said, there is certainly nothing wrong whatsoever with waiting for a while to see how things pan out. Wait another 6 months and this Panny (assuming they still make them) will be about $1500 which is ludicrous. At $2800 we thought we'd bought a bargain. Even less is crazy for 42" of awesome! One last spanner for your thought process: If you game on your big TV (xbox/playstation/PC). I'd go LCD. Video games (once again, generally), are not all that plasma friendly. One last thing, future laser TVs wont necessarily be any better than current stuff. They are just capable of producing a higher percentage of the colour range than Plasma or LCD. They wont necessarily be higher resolution or quicker). I have no idea about their image burn/retention resistance (or if they suffer from it at all for that matter). Sorry to confuse things further. :gren: |
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03-01-2007, 03:45 AM | #49 | ||
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Nah, doesn't confuse me at all.
I do play console games, only PS2 currently. I really only want to spend 1500 odd on a tellie, my old tv and vcr are getting very long in the tooth, and my componant sterio has finally blown the amp in it and the rest of it is knackered too. So basically I will need a complete system, dvd recorder, tv and surround sound system. I dont really use it all that much to justify spending up big $$. I just want somthing nice and reliable that will last me a decent amount of time (being more than a crappy 5 years only). We have become too dependant as a disposable society, and personally I wanna spend my money on other things more interesting than having to replace tv's and accessories every few years. Will look at 1500 max for tv, 1000 for sound and 500 to 1000max for dvd recorder. I just don't use it enuff to wanna spend more.
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There are two series of the Samsung - the S series and the R series.
The R series has the HD tuner and is a 1366x768 unit. Cheers Russ
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04-01-2007, 04:20 PM | #52 | ||
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The parents are updating to 1920x 1080P sony 46 inch LCD Sony Bravia TV (with inbuilt tuner) and over 1K off retail price
According to sony's site its 8ms, 1500:1 on screen, 7000:1 dynamic)and 450 candela Then they're going to grab the ES35V as well Checked toshiba's site as well and their HD DVD with upscaling of regular DVD is only one grand. not bad really This means the current TV and Panasonic DVD/VHS combo are getting moved into my video shed duty along with the 100 hz TV Glad it's not my money
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Found this. Its very intresting and shows comparisons. The HD DVD looks a stack better
http://www.gamescentral.com/blogs/te...vd-vs-dvd.aspx
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This morning I accidentally found a site about pioneer muse hi vision laserdisc players and movie discs
These were released in early to mid 90's in japan and were 1080P resolution according to the site. So that's HD and Blu ray quality back in 1994 with a new player that came out in 96 of course machines and discs were bloody expensive and were there 1080P TV's available in japan back then?
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Apologies for the thread mine.
I have a PS3, and a samsung 40" LCD which only upscales to 1080i. I plan to pick up a blu ray movie from blockbuster tonight and try it out. I have never played blu ray movies on the PS3 yet and was wondering, will I even notice any improvement in picture quality of the blu ray movie even though my tv ISNT 1080P full def, or am I just wasting my time?
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Sorry mate you won't tell the difference. Although it will be better than a standard DVD you still wont get the full use of the Dual Layer DVD with a 1080i TV.
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What a bugga. Oh well, unless I strike it rich somewhere, I'll just put up with my regular dvd's.
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You will notice a big difference, just try it out
You wont get it as good as it could be, but it will look alot better then DVD's
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