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24-02-2022, 07:03 AM | #31 | |||
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I wonder if the Opel was the same car, cant have been too many imported. |
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24-02-2022, 07:45 AM | #32 | |||
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For VB it went Commodore, Commodore SL & then Commodore SL/E. VC went Commodore L, Commodore SL & Commodore SL/E. VH went Commodore SL, Commodore SL/X & Commodore SL/E VK got Commodore SL, Commodore Berlina, then Calais. It stayed like this until VZ, however the SL became the Executive for VN onwards. Dr Terry |
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24-02-2022, 10:57 AM | #33 | |||
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Vacationer was a sticker pack predecessor durung VH run. |
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24-02-2022, 11:51 AM | #34 | |||
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The Executive VN onwards was now a proper 'model' in its own right, it had p/steer standard, but a/cond & auto trans was optional. The Commodore Vacationer pack was sold in VC (Dec 80), VH (Oct 81, Nov 82, Oct 83), VK (Oct 84, Oct 85), VL (Oct 87), VN (Oct 90), VP (Oct 92) & VS (Sept 95). Vacationers also appeared in HQ, HJ, HZ & Camira. VR onwards had other sticker packs as well, like Esteem, Equipe etc. Dr Terry |
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24-02-2022, 12:32 PM | #35 | ||
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Every early commodore ever the odo looks like that
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24-02-2022, 12:46 PM | #36 | ||
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24-02-2022, 01:17 PM | #37 | ||||
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These things are usually crushed, but the odd one slips through for various reasons like donation to museums etc. |
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24-02-2022, 01:43 PM | #38 | |||
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24-02-2022, 01:59 PM | #39 | |||
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It was then taken to the design studio where the interior, front panels, grille, headlights & tail-lights etc. were changed. This stuff is mainly cosmetic. I believe once you got it up & running you shouldn't have any drama registering it. Dr Terry |
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24-02-2022, 02:05 PM | #40 | |||
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Why would you buy a car without a/cond in the 2000s ? Can you believe that a/cond didn't become standard on the base (Omega) model until VE Series II, by which time it was dual zone climate as standard. Dr Terry |
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24-02-2022, 02:08 PM | #41 | ||
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24-02-2022, 02:24 PM | #42 | |||
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Funny enough I jast had a VL go past with Limited Edition II stickers on the boot, another sticker special from that era. Can you remember what that consisted of. Didnt VN also have an LE edition which may have been a stand alone or was it too a sticker pack. |
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24-02-2022, 02:43 PM | #44 | ||
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Reading this page with all the different variations of Commodes, it reinforces a comment made to me about 10 years ago.... I was told there were 84 different build packages coming down the production line at that time. Different model variants, different badges, then with different options. Possibly different body shapes also (wagon/sedan).
Thats a lot of options to get right. |
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24-02-2022, 02:50 PM | #45 | |||
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24-02-2022, 02:52 PM | #46 | ||
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This car has ID tags so yes it is a production car and most likely will be able to be registered if it meets RWC requirements.
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the 3 spd traumatic (yes I know the HDT Commodores had the TH350) in my VH 5.0 was hardly memorable, my VK 4.9 M21 was a lot more fun... but yes to each their own.
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24-02-2022, 03:35 PM | #49 | ||||
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It would need a rebuild with production parts to get it up and running. |
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25-02-2022, 10:27 AM | #51 | |||
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25-02-2022, 10:51 AM | #52 | ||
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I did say it was a prototype or did you miss than bit
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25-02-2022, 10:51 AM | #53 | |||
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The down side part was brake pad material regardless of 4wheel disc and a small booster that the peddle could travel a lot but never a problem. The weight of the VB and it's size help to make such a great performance car, even tho they were somewhat gutless due to ADR Laws. not to mention being a sardine can in a crash. The VC RTS on was total rubbish until the VX SS came out that we got a good handling car again that you could cane full on with full confidence but it was a bit to big and heavy and the VE a Tank ! |
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25-02-2022, 10:55 AM | #54 | |||
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We also had another earlier Commodore (for a skid car) with a blue-printed I6 in it, it went like the clappers
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25-02-2022, 11:00 AM | #55 | ||
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Regardless. as how many prototypes are their ?
Holden Cars start a like from 000100 I believe, once they are set into production. Even the FX Holden prototypes were not 0000 even the 3 first GM made FX ones I believe. How can one start with zero ? I have never heard of such ever. Dr Terry would know better than anyone one I am sure. |
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25-02-2022, 11:11 AM | #56 | |||
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We were told by Holden when they gave it to us that it was an Opel decked out as a Commodore to do the rounds of dealers to let them see what was coming. I looked at that number maybe a hundred times when showing people
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25-02-2022, 11:25 AM | #57 | |||
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Oh and the Commodore hand brake being the postie scooter type drum brake inside the disc is to weak, good hand brake position tho. I like the XG type hand brake how it works off the disk but hate the hand brake position that is rubbish. On thing about the VB and the HZ is that if you loose it at high speed even at 200km/h etc it will automatic correct it's self, peter Hannenberger showed that off to Bill Tuckey saying every car must do this as being a serious safety issue device. |
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25-02-2022, 11:43 AM | #58 | |||
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Some joker must of stamped it that way, is what comes to me. Zero means it does not exist. What engine was in it ? do you know the engine number. I am just questioning such a thing, I do not know why one would get hostile over questioning such a thing. As to the so called barn find prototype car I do not think such things are worth squat truly. |
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25-02-2022, 12:18 PM | #59 | |||
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We were told it was was a one off and was an Opel (for the 3rd time) You weren't questioning, you were challenging, insinuating I was lying. I saw the bloody car and drove it pretty much weekly. Part of driver training was to do a vehicle check which included an under bonnet check before we took it out on the skid pan, so I reckon I looked at the number and know what it was I CAN'T EXPLAIN THE NUMBER I JUST KNOW WHAT IT WAS Did you ever think that I am right and you are wrong
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26-02-2022, 11:16 AM | #60 | |||
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I never said anyone was lying at all. it's just that 00000 does not compute. I am sure you are correct on stating what you seen. but I find it hard that Holden would put such on any car regardless if it was an Opel. I think I remember a VA Commodore mentioned in the first prototypes. I think they were Opel imported and they fell apart just like the first 3 GM prototypes that came to Australia in 1946 and Holden worked to improve on them cars in testing them, just as they did with the first Commodore. But their was never a 000000 car that I have ever heard of, not in the first 3 from USA or any that I know of and that's why i said, one would be best to ask Dr Terry on that subject. he would know best ! if any other than your car ? was 00000, as i have never heard of such ever until now with you saying. So what i am on about has there ever been a 00000 Holden or Ford etc apart from what you have claimed. i am not saying you are wrong at all. if i were to say you are wrong i would say you are wrong, but i have not said that at all. If one was to say they had a 00000 EJ,HD,HK,HQ Holden i would say that is Total BS outright. i maybe wrong but Dr Terry would know better than me. i would take his word for it. Nothing starts from Zero that i know of regardless of what it is. |
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