How not to do a burnout - Page 2

kaniSS · 22-01-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

This is what happens when you take Lebos out of Commodores, I bet the mighty Ecotec would rip a sweet single pegger.

You mean Gemini's.

roKWiz · 22-01-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kaniSS

You mean Gemini's.

They've moved on from the mighty Gem gems.

.:4:. · 22-01-2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

They've moved on from the mighty Gem gems.

Nah, its too hard to find a gemini, their uncles wont sell theirs.

T3rminator · 22-01-2021, 11:53 AM

Last chance to enter today for the AMG GTR. Looks mint!

Tickford. · 22-01-2021, 12:32 PM

The drivers name is Jean-Pierre Mouawad, French origin.

But don't let that stop you from calling him a Habibi, Lebo, Muslims, etc.

The driver is still a first grade f***wit though!

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

Old Mate is sponsoring young Moffat in his TCR Renault Megane 2021 campaign. Wonder how that'll turn out now.

LMCT+ has nothing to do with the idiot drivers actions. That's like someone blaming Tatt's Lotto for busting up their brand new Mercedes they bought after winning the lotto.

XR Martin · 22-01-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

The drivers name is Jean-Pierre Mouawad, French origin.

But don't let that stop you from calling him a Habibi, Lebo, Muslims, etc.

The driver is still a first grade f***wit though!

LMCT+ has nothing to do with the idiot drivers actions. That's like someone blaming Tatt's Lotto for busting up their brand new Mercedes they bought after winning the lotto.

Algerian heritage I imagine.

.:4:. · 22-01-2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Algerian heritage I imagine.

Names don't mean a huge amount. I went to school with a kid whos first name was pierre claude. Thats his first name. I wont say surname or anything. Sounds pretty french, but he and his parents were south east asian. So first names are first names.

Franco Cozzo · 22-01-2021, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

The drivers name is Jean-Pierre Mouawad, French origin.

But don't let that stop you from calling him a Habibi, Lebo, Muslims, etc.

The driver is still a first grade f***wit though!

LMCT+ has nothing to do with the idiot drivers actions. That's like someone blaming Tatt's Lotto for busting up their brand new Mercedes they bought after winning the lotto.

There's French people in France? Not last time I heard, love to see his Ancestry DNA results with that last name

Bossxr8 · 22-01-2021, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

I just realised these are a dual clutch 9 speed, so it wasn't the converter slipping, it was the clutch.
Bet the thing spat the clutch and flywheel out the side of the gearbox, through the exhaust and fuel lines.

It's not a DCT. It's a traditional auto, but it differs in that it uses a wet clutch for take off.

Could very well be that clutch exploding though.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/features...tch-autos-work

This article explains how they work. But the 7 speed has been replaced by the 9 speed now.

Franco Cozzo · 22-01-2021, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It's not a DCT. It's a traditional auto, but it differs in that it uses a wet clutch for take off.

Could very well be that clutch exploding though.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/features...tch-autos-work

This article explains how they work. But the 7 speed has been replaced by the 9 speed now.

Fragile ****box uleh, she's no TH400

Why you need 9 gears that don't work when you could have three which do

Falcon SXR8 · 22-01-2021, 04:45 PM

I'm very surprised the car actually let that happen with all the electronic crap in them.

Bossxr8 · 22-01-2021, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Fragile ****box uleh, she's no TH400

Why you need 9 gears that don't work when you could have three which do

Yeah, why not just fit a powerglide

They must be pretty strong though. Handle way, way more power and torque than any factory gm engine ever put through a th.

lumen8 · 22-01-2021, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yeah, why not just fit a powerglide

They must be pretty strong though. Handle way, way more power and torque than any factory gm engine ever put through a th.

GVM/GCM is a consideration though, 400s were also designed and engineered to survive in motorhomes and trucks.

Some of these new boxes might be behind 5-600hp engines and then some, but if you put them in a loaded motorhome and tried to reverse up a hill... they might not be as happy as a th400.

Sprintey · 23-01-2021, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

This is what happens when you take Lebos out of Commodores, I bet the mighty Ecotec would rip a sweet single pegger.

Easy come, easy go.

Charles Darwin probably approves.

Sprintey · 23-01-2021, 02:43 PM

Honest question, what probably happened here to cause the failure?

Don't the car companies invest R&D trying to break transmissions etc (eg GM 'Rock Crusher' test). What did this fine gentleman do, that circumvented all the vaunted Mercedes R&D? Did no-one in product development say "What happens if we try a burnout, but leave the traction control on?"

.:4:. · 23-01-2021, 02:53 PM

I dont think it would have been clutch related (tranamission, whatever). Modern cars say no before that happens. Id be, at a guess, be inclined to think an oil line to a turbo ruptured or popped off. From memory, the turbos in modern v8 amgs are in the valley in the centre of the block not in the conventional place.

T3rminator · 23-01-2021, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by .:4:.

I dont think it would have been clutch related (tranamission, whatever). Modern cars say no before that happens. Id be, at a guess, be inclined to think an oil line to a turbo ruptured or popped off. From memory, the turbos in modern v8 amgs are in the valley in the centre of the block not in the conventional place.

So I guess the "malfunction" defence is not sounding so looney after all

"Your honour, my client was very fortunate not to be harmed by the vehicle's malfunction. We demand a replacement"

Not sure how the dangerous driving charge will stick. He wasn't going fast, he didn't do a skid, and the bystanders weren't egging him on in any obvious way. How do you prove intent when the alleged intended action didn't occur?

Sprintey · 23-01-2021, 03:06 PM

Turbo oil line spill would change things a bit. Is it the kind of thing that would blow when you are trying to drive dangerous/do fully sik burnout?

.:4:. · 23-01-2021, 03:09 PM

Well, intentional (attempted atleast) loss of traction, thats not legal. So the blokes getting his toasted car impounded anyways. The dumbest thing is, he shouldnt have let anyone post it online and just pled ignorance when it burnt to the ground.

.:4:. · 23-01-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Turbo oil line spill would change things a bit. Is it the kind of thing that would blow when you are trying to drive dangerous/do fully sik burnout?

In my uneducated view, any overheating in a modern car, motor or otherwise the car would say no. But for something to erupt like that so quickly, there would have to be some form of propellant. So amg probably tested things but was never expecting someone to be loading a motor for as long, and with no airflow bar the fans, turbos get hot, rubber melts at some point. So i don't think its so much a design flaw, just a flaw with the driver doing the wrong thing in more ways then 1.