Ranger Raptor $74,990 - Page 2

CoupeKing · 10-04-2018, 09:26 AM

For the cool factor give it to Les Hiddins to do a review on it.

jpd80 · 10-04-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Yes, almost as much as an NA engine designed 50 years ago. And these 50 year old engines still run!

Let’s see if this 2.0 with boost wound up to give it more power even survives the warranty period.

I remember the older generation saying the same thing about the I-6T versus a solid dependable V8.
If you're only concern is that longevity may be reduced by added boost, then that trend has been
going on for plenty of years now. Each evolution seems to get better and better with power density.

The thing that impresses me is that this little diesel is now all aluminum, by that I mean block and heads
so it's also lost a ton of weight over the front axle, at least 50Kg less than the 2.2 diesel and near 100KG for the 3.2.
All of that weight loss gives the Raptor superior handling like no other Ranger, save for maybe the 2.3 Ecoboost..

Vesper Martini · 10-04-2018, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 383hq

Who will be the first to do this with the Ozzie Raptor ?
https://youtu.be/JKQdlXvbWSU

Surely with a little donk up front the new Raptor was designed for jumping / flying? <inserts evil grin>

That Raptor suffered a fair bit of damage doing that, so did the driver getting the airbag on impact, then taken away in an Ambulance.

quite an expensive stunt

**solarite_guy** · 10-04-2018, 12:04 PM

Hold my beer

**FTE217** · 10-04-2018, 12:20 PM

airbags worked.

**DJR-351** · 10-04-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Hold my beer

Actually i would have thought it would have been "hang on to this Gator"....

roKWiz · 10-04-2018, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 383hq

Who will be the first to do this with the Ozzie Raptor ?
https://youtu.be/JKQdlXvbWSU

Surely with a little donk up front the new Raptor was designed for jumping / flying? <inserts evil grin>

Geeze, even an old 9T Ford Louisville can do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhfj2HQegtA

Bossxr8 · 10-04-2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cheap

I’m not sure how large the market is for tarted up expensive utes. At $80K it is bloody expensive for what it is/has. People should not forget that Ford had high hopes on Everest being a run away success...

And Everest sales have been improving month on month and year on year. It builds every month, and with how extremely profitable they are considering most sales are Trend and Titanium it's a solid cash cow.

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

The Merc ute.

Will be much more expensive. Probably around 85-90k.

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

The 550 Nissan - the merc when it comes

The 550 Nissan was discontinued a couple of years ago due to emissions.

naddis01 · 10-04-2018, 04:28 PM

Borrowed from the new Ranger forum.

Vesper Martini · 10-04-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Will be much more expensive. Probably around 85-90k.

The 550 Nissan was discontinued a couple of years ago due to emissions.

I wondered why they pulled pin on what looked like a good product. it was only around for a short time to be fair My Territory wont pass today's emissions either.

The coming Merc X 350 has 190kw 550NM the same engine in the MP350 is producing 620NM

The X 350d Power will cost $78,990 before options and on-road costs.
people will buy it and fit lift kits and the raptor sized wheels, and probably get up around the 100K mark!!

Sprintey · 10-04-2018, 04:46 PM

82k onroad, performance dual cab ute, lol the auto market has become a parody of itself

As for intended use however, this thing will be great, if you want to have anyone tune your car for the immense amount of oz that's neither city or outback - ie most wheatbelts and plains - Ford oz engineers are best. Eg. Outback ute, RTV.

Ben73 · 10-04-2018, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Racing around on a rough dirt track is an American thing, who does that here? I'll wait until a 4wd-specialist site reviews it. Just because something can go quick on a dirt track doesn't mean it might be any good dragging a camper-trailer around typical Aus tracks

We like driving on beaches. Up and down sand dunes. Surely the suspension should be good for that too.

I can't wait to see a 4wd specialist review it too

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Originally Posted by CobraJet351

If you don’t like it then don’t buy it.

Obviously, but this is a forum where everyone should be able to express opinions whether it's positive or negative

Mercury Bullet · 10-04-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Racing around on a rough dirt track is an American thing, who does that here? I'll wait until a 4wd-specialist site reviews it. Just because something can go quick on a dirt track doesn't mean it might be any good dragging a camper-trailer around typical Aus tracks

This thing would be the ducks nuts at somewhere like lancelin.

If you want to drive on sealed roads and tow there's an xlt or wildtrack.
Anyone who buys a raptor (ranger or f-150) for that purpose hasn't done their research.

vztrt · 10-04-2018, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

This thing would be the ducks nuts at somewhere like lancelin.

If you want to drive on sealed roads and tow there's an xlt or wildtrack.
Anyone who buys a raptor (ranger or f-150) for that purpose hasn't done their research.

Funny how an extra option to the line up now seems like its the only choice to buy.....mind you it's funny how people think a global car is designed for Australia only.

Sprintey · 10-04-2018, 07:20 PM

Lancelin agree, indeed it would be a very good vehicle for that entire hinterland to coast from there past Geraldton. Lots of beach work when not at work in the paddocks.

**DFB FGXR6** · 10-04-2018, 07:46 PM

Whilst the Raptor isn't really up my alley, I can certainly respect those that do purchase one.

The Raptor is a brand image builder. A product that people will buy because they want one, not need one. The exact same reason people were attracted to FPV's, GT's and XR for generations.

I would assume that most Raptors will never see a rough enough road to challenge its purpose designed suspension. Just like many high performance Falcons that have never seen a racetrack to exploit their impressive power.

Just trying to provide a bit of a different perspective.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 10-04-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 383hq

Who will be the first to do this with the Ozzie Raptor ?
https://youtu.be/JKQdlXvbWSU

Surely with a little donk up front the new Raptor was designed for jumping / flying? <inserts evil grin>

Yes seen that before, I wonder what he though was going to happen??

XB GS 351 Coupe · 10-04-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Until you realise that those 2 litres have almost as much hp and more torque than an XB 5.8

Bet my stock 351 XB ute is still quicker.

**DJR-351** · 10-04-2018, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Yes seen that before, I wonder what he though was going to happen??

I'm fairly certain he never thinks that far ahead....

Falcon SXR8 · 10-04-2018, 09:03 PM

Punch the dpf out, wind the fuel screw up a few times and let the boys at those jumps yeeee haaa

Bossxr8 · 11-04-2018, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Borrowed from the new Ranger forum.

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Makes more just about everywhere, and actually continues to hold it much further past where the 3.2 drops off a cliff. Having the sequential turbos is a really good idea to keep the power from dropping off so quickly.

Add to that, that the 2.0 is probably heaps lighter than the 3.2 is. All alloy 2 litre 4 cylinder vs cast iron block 3.2 5 cylinder. 50-100kg?

boss351290 · 11-04-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Until you realise that those 2 litres have almost as much hp and more torque than an XB 5.8

Yes it might do. It has 10 gears not 3 and 2 turbos and it still can’t keep up to a Xb gt. You think after 45 years they would do something a little more. A joke really when you think about it. That’s why I spent my money on a sprint

**Fordman1** · 11-04-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boss351290

Yes it might do. It has 10 gears not 3 and 2 turbos and it still can’t keep up to a Xb gt. You think after 45 years they would do something a little more. A joke really when you think about it. That’s why I spent my money on a sprint

No the joke is on you, hp is hp, these cars have great power trains.

Cars are a lot heavier now because of safety requirements,

Your Sprint will be a dinosaur soon, the next generation of cars will blow your Dinosaur away.

Good luck.

mr smith · 11-04-2018, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Racing around on a rough dirt track is an American thing, who does that here? I'll wait until a 4wd-specialist site reviews it. Just because something can go quick on a dirt track doesn't mean it might be any good dragging a camper-trailer around typical Aus tracks

Not everyone thinks a fully ARB equiped twin cab ute is the coolest thing around. Some have that much crap hanging off them they look ridiculous.

**FTE217** · 11-04-2018, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

No the joke is on you, hp is hp, these cars have great power trains.

Cars are a lot heavier now because of safety requirements,

Your Sprint will be a dinosaur soon, the next generation of cars will blow your Dinosaur away.

Good luck.

I think your getting too emotional on the subject.

This next gen thing has been going on for a while no

In some case's the older dinosaur still stands up and delivers so no its not the case everytime next gen blows off certain older gen.
Lets just wait and see in a few more years before getting all OTT about a comment for no its not because I own a Sprint but have had other Fords and other cars that this is proved wrong many times but no big deal lets get back on RR.

mike_nofx · 11-04-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

No the joke is on you, hp is hp, these cars have great power trains.

Cars are a lot heavier now because of safety requirements,

Your Sprint will be a dinosaur soon, the next generation of cars will blow your Dinosaur away.

Good luck.

Sounds like you typed this on a laptop in a cafe whilst eating smashed avo.

I’ll stick with the dinosaurs thanks.

simon varley · 11-04-2018, 08:45 PM

your XB has little or no emissions control equipment on it. try bolting a catalyst and particulate filter on the exhaust and see what power it makes then.

Falcon SXR8 · 11-04-2018, 08:49 PM

Why are we comparing this ute with an xb?? Do people cross shop these?

jpd80 · 11-04-2018, 09:37 PM

Wow, can't believe how this went off the tracks.

The 2.0 Panther is much lighter than the 3.2, very close to 100Kg from what I see
and the 10-speed auto keeps the engine up in the torque range so it's gonna be
a pretty good unit getting going, quicker then a 6AT 3.2 ranger for sure.

But the extra horsepower in the upper range gives it that added oomph that diesels
normally don't have at the top of the range.

naddis01 · 11-04-2018, 09:51 PM

Won't the engine weight loss be offset by the suspension changes and heavier bash plates etc?