The FGX as the ultimate enthusiast collectors falcon?

[Whitey-AMG]

Most collectable of the late models is GTF followed by R spec
Then you have the limited run B series. GT40th and cobra.

Then you have the more desirable such as the FPV supercharged cars. Good examples well kept and low Klm.

Sprint cars are nice but reality is that they aren't an FPV no matter how hard you try and squint your eyes....
I'd pick up a cheap one for an awesome daily drive to avoid putting too many Kay's on the FPV.

[Nu66et]

Originally Posted by SensationFG8

Which car does fg take its styling cues from? Doesn't seem to match too much else from 07/08 era.

Edit: closest seems to be Mondeo,but only in the front...

FG took inspiration from the Ford Iosis concept that spawned the European Kinetic design language. Mondeo took the most cues but it also filtered heavily into Focus and Fiesta.

[FG50T]

Toxic BF Typhoon will be my garage car to save for the future when I find one.

[BLACKVE]

Originally Posted by SprintFg

Are you serious?

The fgx xr8 IS the fpv r-spec just with a more modern look and sync2. It's the exact same mechanically, engine, tune, wheels, suspension, tyres, exact same car.

The GT-F is also exact same as a r-spec with a better tune. How can you call it a fail and the r-spec better?

Sorry Bud MUSTANG........

Best falcons will always be the XR>XY

[stevanford]

People don't want them now. Why would they want them in the future ?

[hodge_williams]

What a pathetic thread, sorry SprintFg. It's just the same BS again and again. This is better, no this is better. Most people are bias on what they own or their generation anyway.

With the comment earlier on about they cant sell them now why would the be worth more or more desirable (whatever that statement was), it doesnt matter how it sold that makes an item desirable.

The King of Falcons and most desirable will always be the HOIII.

[Cav]

Wot about the EL GT?

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Cav

Wot about the EL GT?

Used to totally love the EL GT when I was a kid. But I really can't stand the canadian 5.0L boat anchor Ford installed. A BA XT 4.0 would probably give it a good run or possibly beat it on any given day.

[Dash_XR]

FGX would be the only late model falcon without its own original styling though, can't see it being more collectable.

[71cop]

Originally Posted by Cav

Wot about the EL GT?

I agree, Wot about it ?

[Wretched]

Collectiable Falcon?
Any that had a racing heritage, that was homologated for racing.
The obvious being the GTHO P3. However I would suspect the GTHO P2 being more of a collector, it was more raw from all reports.
More so, the GTHO IV.

The rest? debatable. Later models? ED Sprint may be, but hard to think of any besides the FG F6 maybe.

[Bolly47]

What about Petrol Turbo Ghia Territory ????

[blackf6]

There is no ultimate enthusiasts Falcon. But many varied Falcons are owned by enthusiasts.

[Pepscobra]

The most desirable Falcon to me is the one i own.

[ebv8]

just be aware Ford builds rust into Falcons and even FGx's are not immune
my painter just did a claim through Ford for over $10k for rust repairs on an FG Mk11 GTP.
my GT has rust, my mates GT has loads of rust. my old AU has so much rust i gave it away.
I still love my Falcon anyway and will never sell it

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Collectiable Falcon?
Any that had a racing heritage, that was homologated for racing.
The obvious being the GTHO P3. However I would suspect the GTHO P2 being more of a collector, it was more raw from all reports.
More so, the GTHO IV.

Spot on.

I think some of the guys really have no idea why the old bangers are so collectible....homologation race cars...

Ask yourself why are EB and EL GTs essentially worthless, EB is now 25 years old and worth jack, a fraction of it's 1992 new price. An XY GT in 1996 was worth 3 or 4 times more than it's new price of 1971. See the trend. The other plastic GTs will be worthless too like the EB. FGX will be worth even less......

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Used to totally love the EL GT when I was a kid. But I really can't stand the canadian 5.0L boat anchor Ford installed. A BA XT 4.0 would probably give it a good run or possibly beat it on any given day.

EA S pack was the fastest falcon since the phase 3...does that make the phase 3 any less?

[Express]

AU Forté - you'll probably be the only person to think to keep one.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Nikked

EA S pack was the fastest falcon since the phase 3...does that make the phase 3 any less?

Hear that argument so many times, "Oh XYZ is faster than a Phase 3, therefore Phase three is worthless" Blah blah blah.

Again, completely oblivious as to why the Phase 3 is so revered. Compare a 1971 Mercedes 300SEL, arguably faster than a Phase 3, better equipped 6.3 fuel injected V8 in 1971, very limited numbers yet can be bought for $40 - 50K.

GTHO manages same performance in a similar size V8 sedan, yet it is worth to 10 times the Merc. HMMM I wonder why?????

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by Nikked

EA S pack was the fastest falcon since the phase 3...does that make the phase 3 any less?

What?

My Cobra ate my EA for lunch. No comparison, not even close.

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by grimmo82

I was tossing up between getting a new FGX XR8 or a Boss 335 GT but even a 2010 manual people were still asking over $50k and I couldn't quite justify shelling out that much for a 6 year old car. I also was a bit hesitant because the FGX interior wasn't as good as my XR50 Turbo interior with the piano black ICC plus thought the FG looked better as depending on the colour the FGX didn't quite look right. But after the one drive in a silhouette FGX XR8 manual you couldn't wipe the smile off my face. And the FGX was made for that colour I'm sure of it. FGX looks a whole lot better in the flesh.

G'day ..Just about the truest statement yet ."The FGX looks a whole lot better in the flesh"..That is EXACTLY my opinion.
Back in June we had our local car show and in among about a dozen FPV Tickford and XR Club of Tasmania visiting cars there was one XR8 Sprint and two XR6 Sprints ..Absolutely gorgeous when you see them close up. I was somewhat disappointed with the rear end especially when I saw pictures back in 2014/15 of the new FGX..Now I really like it..I like the whole car actually..

I genuinely believe the FGX will hold a certain monetary value because it's the last model and the Sprint absolutely will carry a respectable value given there will only ever be 1250 or so in total..

The GTHO ..I cannot believe though that any other Falcon will ever replace it as the most valuable. It isn't the fastest anymore , it doesn't handle or stop anywhere as good as later models BUT the aura of the car just transcends all the rest .

Just shows ya'...
Tell you what though ..I'd love to know many of the three hundred odd genuine Phase 3 GTHO's are REALLY still road going , legal and in existence..
Does anyone know before I look it up somewhere ?
Cheers Rod...

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Most collectable of the late models is GTF followed by R spec
Then you have the limited run B series. GT40th and cobra.

Then you have the more desirable such as the FPV supercharged cars. Good examples well kept and low Klm.

Sprint cars are nice but reality is that they aren't an FPV no matter how hard you try and squint your eyes....
I'd pick up a cheap one for an awesome daily drive to avoid putting too many Kay's on the FPV.

But no matter how hard you squint, an FPV won't be a Sprint......

The genuine last of the of the performance Falcons.

[ESPJG32]

Guessing what will be collectable 50 years from now is a bit like winking at a busty blonde in the dark - you are the only one who knows what you are doing - but I am not sure where Stefan was 50 years ago but let me tell you in the mid '70s phase 3s were unwanted metal - a mate of mine was a dealer in those days and they were very hard to shift - some taking up to a year to move off the lot...and yes he wishes he knew then what he knows now - his super fund would be a lot fatter....
I don't really know the answer to what will be collectable in 30 years - buy what you like and drive them....who knows you might not be alive then anyway..
As someone said recently, keeping it and not driving it so it remains pristine is a bit like not screwing your misses so she is in good nick for the next bloke-why would you do that?

[roddy1960]

G'day...Good old wikipedia...Seems there were 1557 XY GT Phase 3's built between September 1970 to December 1971 but only 300 XY GTHO Phase 3's were built between May 1971 to December 1971.. So all up , in total there were only 1857 GT/GTHO Phase 3's built. In actuality then , the FGX Sprints will be rarer birds still..Go figure , who'd a thunk it!!!!! . with only 1300 or thereabouts. Cheers Rod..

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Stefan

FGX the ultimate collectors Falcon? You think it will overtake the GTHO in collectibility.

The problem is no-one wants them now so why would anyone want them later.

At least with the GTHOs of 50 years ago, everyone wanted them, lusted after them..

It's nice to have a dream....I guess you're hoping you're on to a gold mine with a sprint

Hahaha. No one wanted many cars, so they didn't build many, but now bring big $$$ if you can track one down.

Leyland P76, & Force 7, Chrysler by Chrysler, Vailant 2 door Hardtops (not the charger), & more.

Time is a funny thing. What wasn't hot back then, has a tendency to become hot now.

They are rare by by production, add to that the rigours of time to that production number, (write offs, rust outs, etc) just makes them even harder to find, and therefore harder to buy.

P.S. I want one. I want one bad.

[superyob]

No chrome bumpers, no collectors status...

[ESPJG32]

Hey Superyob keep an eye on it for me will you, I wont be around in 50 years to know....but some non chrome bumper cars are already collectable.

In 50 years doing chrome will probably be illegal if the tree huggers have anything to do with it....it is not enviro good.

So if you have chrome bumpers to do, get them done soon because plastic bumpers will take over in time.

sorry to burst your bubble

[Blue Roo]

Any model from the BA1 to the FG2, car or ute, with an FPV Badge will be the sort after by collectors. Especially if the car has not been heavily modified. Or preferable stock.

The V8's are Legendary (especially the Super Charged 335's) and they will have a following. As for F6 Turbo's, will always have Street Creditability and Legendary Status with a cult following.

For me the pinnacle of the Modern Day 21st Century Classic, will be the FG Series 1 & 2. But, however you look at it. The FGX will be the poor mans cousin. (A bit like how the XC GXL was to the XB GT.) Even though the FGX has a little bit, more power than the FPV FG.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Revolver

Hahaha. No one wanted many cars, so they didn't build many, but now bring big $$$ if you can track one down.

Leyland P76, & Force 7, Chrysler by Chrysler, Vailant 2 door Hardtops (not the charger), & more.

Time is a funny thing. What wasn't hot back then, has a tendency to become hot now.

Dude, they not exactly collectible, nore are worth big dollars, what the going rate of a P76? Last one on a Shannon's auction was 26 grand

You're greatly confused about rare, desirable and valuable....no one wanted p76s then and they don't want them now either.

[SprintFg]

Originally Posted by Stefan

FGX the ultimate collectors Falcon? You think it will overtake the GTHO in collectibility.

The problem is no-one wants them now so why would anyone want them later.

At least with the GTHOs of 50 years ago, everyone wanted them, lusted after them..

It's nice to have a dream....I guess you're hoping you're on to a gold mine with a sprint

One thing about the GTHO was that it was the top of the tree with regard to its performance, hence its desirability and the fact ford stopped making V8s for 10 years after XE, today the GTHO performance is near the bottom of the tree. I don't think they command the prices people throw about on here, maybe one every few years might change hands, to a very niche buyer, only a few are in existence, hardly a market value if none are readily available for sale and how many on here would actually part with the type of money required to own one? at the prices thrown around on here?

In today's world the turbo 6 falcon and supercharged V8 are the pinnacle of ford performance. This is the way things will end in a few weeks time. This is the way it's stays forever. FULL STOP 7 October. There is no tomorrow, no successor.

Initially they will be available, but as supply dries up, then watch the enthusiasts come out of the woods. There will be plenty of n/a xr6 Falcons getting turbo conversions and older V8 cars will get supercharger kits to emulate the best of the bunch. No one will part with them. It's not about price appreciation, it's about actually owning the best performance car ford can make, growing old, enjoying it and remembering what we all had.

It just so happens the fgx has the pinnacle of ford performance under the hood, offered in both turbo 6 and supercharged V8, plus it's modern styling and sync 2. The very best of the best, the final evolution. The end.

As for not being a bigger seller now, neither was the t series, many sat around in ford showrooms well into the BA series, now many talk about the TS50 T3 as if it's the spiritual successor to GTHO. They have short memories how they sat in showrooms heavily discounted until BA series 2 was out. Even the GTHO, there was a time when GTHO's sat in dealerships for a couple of grand, advertised in the local paper, difficult to move.

The factory closes in a few weeks, go and buy one now. Wait and you will miss out..