Americanisation of Australian Car Market. - Page 2

Joe5619 · 03-06-2015, 07:38 PM

Who really cares if it is called a ute or truck?? Talk about a first world probem!

Vekgib · 03-06-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by QLD-Bluey

You sound like all my Holden supporting friends that call me when a Commondore wins Bathurst,.........just after they wash and polish their Hyundai!

Mate of mine owns a VW Golf
Sent me a text the very second Whincup crossed the line to win Bathurst in 2012.
My reply: Last time I saw a VW at Bathurst it was in the ****in' RSL car park

FPV+fteT3 · 03-06-2015, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Who really cares if it is called a ute or truck?? Talk about a first world probem!

I would rather have a ute run into my car with me in it than a truck with 2 trailers attached weighing 20 tonnes and I am just as sure the difference between ute and truck would be obvious when they removed you from the accident by opening the door and helping you step out or simply used high pressure hose.

Brazen · 03-06-2015, 07:53 PM

Truck has negative connotations. I wonder if using the word truck has a negative effect on the whole dual cab segment. Maybe make people reconsider getting a dual cab ute for primarily suburban duties.

Coincidentally the dual cab market fell last month for the first time in many months to private buyers (-1.8%) was averaging growth average of 15% growth this year before then.

I can imagine Mitsubishi, Mazda, Nissan all ringing up Ford "stop calling then trucks, you are ruining it for everyone!"

xr8territory · 03-06-2015, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Who really cares if it is called a ute or truck?? Talk about a first world probem!

People who have a passion for the vehicles they own/drive/enjoy. It is all a matter of perspective. Lots of my friends watch the V8's and say they are all the same! A true statement in many ways but offensive to a Ford/Holden fan.
Some people cry a river when someones describes there Flat White as a coffee with milk.
Yes I agree, 1st world problems, but we live in the first world so here we are.

burnz · 03-06-2015, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

Stupid ford advertising girl gets under my skin,its not a truck fool its a bloody DUAL CAB UTE!
Trucks are made by kenworth,volvo,international,western star etc and as has already been said they have alot more gears than 5 or 6!
Somebody slap that girl:(
We are australian and should speak australian lingo,are we sheep or sheep dogs?
They call trucks, tractor trailers,lol.
Tractors are made by massey ferguson haha

yeah that's my line of thinking, kenworth not pretendworth!!

anything under five tonnes tare is a passenger vehicle..

AUwindsor · 03-06-2015, 08:16 PM

Allthough not a "real" truck.... id say this thing is the closest it gets in factory SUV range.. check out the size of it

"same as the Iron Hide truck in Transformers film"

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/karra...uck/1080061179

**GasoLane** · 03-06-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV+fteT3

I would rather have a ute run into my car with me in it than a truck with 2 trailers attached weighing 52 tonnes

Fixed that bit for you

STINKY NINJA · 03-06-2015, 08:42 PM

Its a utility not a truck,end of story,nothing to do with separate cabs/trays whatever,its still a ute!
This is a a ute,thats not a ute blah blah,they are all utes!
Bloody yanks are poisoning our minds with their poxy language they speak.

STINKY NINJA · 03-06-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Who really cares if it is called a ute or truck?? Talk about a first world probem!

This is a ford forum,primarily talking about fords,automotive issues and so on down the line,its not a first world problem forum,maybe join up the whirlpool forum matey?

FERG_51 · 03-06-2015, 09:06 PM

Im going with Lewis Bandt the aussie designer of the first ute. He called it a utility, that'll do me.

CoupeKing · 03-06-2015, 10:07 PM

All the 4WD Mums are going to demand truck status now. As if they didn't bully their way into parking-spots already.

XD 351 Ute · 03-06-2015, 10:19 PM

http://i.imgur.com/QenMov9.jpg

Ed

Dr Terry · 03-06-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Yep, the Aussie thing is the 'coupe utility' and the most 'coupe' were XA-C utes, with the coupe frameless doors, comfort focus, and heavy options choices. These have nothing to do with a dual cab, or a 'truck'. Americans did pretty good versions with El Caminos and Rancheros, too.

My point precisely !!

The other 'utes' that were real utes were the pre-WWII Fords. They still had the extra window, behind the door, like XD/XE/XF/XG/XH utes.

But the main point about a real ute, is that the body is all one piece & it must be sedan based.

What sedan is a Ranger based on ??

Dr Terry

burnz · 04-06-2015, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Fixed that bit for you

only a matter of time yours will be called "tractor trailer" not prime mover..
farm equipment on the road "tractor" ha ha.

new2ford · 04-06-2015, 06:31 AM

Where I last worked this is a truck:

and this is a ute:

Well, a quadruple-cab ute I guess! A sort of Tesla on steroids

castellan · 04-06-2015, 08:50 AM

A Truck is something that carry's around over 2 tonne like to me and a small one at that.

Ya dual cab type of thing and all are called 1 tonnes like or a pickup or chassis cab and so on.

Fords AU on is a pickup Utility.

I think it was the Chev roadster utility that was the first in Australia then the coupe ute were produced from May 1934.

Iggle Piggle · 04-06-2015, 09:10 AM

I'm getting lost...is a Suzuki Mighty Boy a truck?

Or is Mighty Boy a ute, and the Suzuki Carry is a truck?

Brazen · 04-06-2015, 09:35 AM

Just call them Thai Tinfoil Trucks

damo76 · 04-06-2015, 10:07 AM

maybe because you truck things around in them, besides it is better than chinasation.

Stefan · 04-06-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

I like how she says something along the lines of "you might find a cheaper truck, or a bigger seller, but not a better one!"

Yeah?

http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/det...D-871108/?Cr=0

http://www.carsales.com.au/nearnew/d...16036030/?Cr=0

http://www.carsales.com.au/nearnew/d...15863470/?Cr=0

http://www.carsales.com.au/nearnew/d...16036664/?Cr=0

There are 4 "better trucks", ones even your own damn product!

Three year old "truck" and 120k....surely no one is buying these heaps for that. None of them are under 100k.

I'd make do with a second hand falcon ute for 20k and buy an investment property....

**Grunter** · 04-06-2015, 01:03 PM

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from Oxford

ute
n. Austral. & NZ sl. a utility truck.

http://worddictionary.com.au/search....aZZpkHsSeBJxkG

Ouch.

Dr Terry · 04-06-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggle Piggle

I'm getting lost...is a Suzuki Mighty Boy a truck?

Or is Mighty Boy a ute, and the Suzuki Carry is a truck?

I think when it's all said & done, the most apt word for Hiluxes/Rangers etc. would be pick-up, because most would perceive a truck to be a much larger vehicle, like an Isuzu or a Kenworth.

By definition a Suzuki Carry is a van, but a Mighty Boy is a ute, as is a Proton Jumbuck & a Subaru Brumby.

Dr Terry

Joe5619 · 04-06-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV+fteT3

I would rather have a ute run into my car with me in it than a truck with 2 trailers attached weighing 20 tonnes and I am just as sure the difference between ute and truck would be obvious when they removed you from the accident by opening the door and helping you step out or simply used high pressure hose.

Sorry, you have completely missed what is being discussed here. We are not taking about the differences between two types of cars; we are talking about what to call the same thing. Example is a Ranger a Ute or truck. If a Ranger hits my car, it will cause the same amount of damage no matter if we called it a Ute or tuck!!

Itsme · 04-06-2015, 01:32 PM

Whatever you guys think what my Ranger is, I reckon it is great Ute/Truck.

chevypower · 04-06-2015, 03:30 PM

A bit like that scene in Crocodile Dundee "that's not a truck..." Nobody mentioned that the British also call them pickup trucks.

**GasoLane** · 04-06-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

A bit like that scene in Crocodile Dundee "that's not a truck..." Nobody mentioned that the British also call them pickup trucks.

Could be because they call Trucks 'Lorries'

MrZ · 04-06-2015, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

lol @ the posers and their 'trucks' that do the same job as a VW Polo 90% of the time.

Trucks have more than 6 gears and 170hp

Your definition is flawed. The Amarok has 8 gears, and the new Hilux 4.0L V6 has 277 hp.

FPV+fteT3 · 04-06-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Sorry, you have completely missed what is being discussed here. We are not taking about the differences between two types of cars; we are talking about what to call the same thing. Example is a Ranger a Ute or truck. If a Ranger hits my car, it will cause the same amount of damage no matter if we called it a Ute or tuck!!

Sorry maybe this analogy is easier for you to understand, all trucks have more than 4 wheels and tyres running on the road surface at any one time. If your vehicle has only four wheels its not a truck take it back to your dealer and ask for your money back as they have sold you a ute.
Personally I don't care what you call a Ranger you can call it Bruce or Caitlin if you like its still not a truck its a ute.

Dr Terry · 04-06-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV+fteT3

Personally I don't care what you call a Ranger you can call it Bruce or Caitlin if you like its still not a truck its a ute.

But it's not a ute, it's a pick-up.

Dr Terry