FRIDAY HULK THREAD: Are car mods becoming too risky?

[Road Games]

Every modified car pretty much got defected after the police blocked off every st coming out of the event...

That in my book was entrapment but anyway moving along....

[tut0r]

Sounds like a night in foreshore in Newy back in the day.

[NAK302]

Originally Posted by |Nate

The only reason a lot of these laws are in place are because of all the cool people with their sick VN's with straight through pipes, chopped springs in the rear, on stockies.

If these laws silence the ambient sound of limiter bashing Buick V6's at night, I'm all for them. :P



As mentioned above, it's your attitude towards them. If YOU have a chip on your shoulder after being randomly pulled over by them and they catch on, they'll be harsh.

I've been pulled over a few times in my old EB, which was lowered, loud (not too loud) and had nice rims. Never had an issue with any of them as I've always given them the respect they deserve, even when I see they've gone out of their way to pull me over.

Now in my BMW, I've never been pulled over, and rarely even given a second glance by HWP driving past or at bretho's.

so, basically they discriminate. isn't that unlawful in this once wonderful country?

[Nova 8]

There is a difference between law and legislation, if you mod and get done go have your day in court and try your best. Someone has to be the first through the wall.

[LoudPipes]

It’ll be a nice conversation starter with the constabulary when you’ve just been pulled up and being torn a new one over the nice new free flowing dual 3 inch exhaust you’ve installed to improve fuel economy and therefore save the environment when a stock C63 peculates past.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by tut0r

Sounds like a night in foreshore in Newy back in the day.

Still happens.

Every now and then at 830pm on a Thursday night police will close the road at both roundabouts at foreshore. Trapping all the people out for a cruise in between and checking every car on the way out. You can't just sit and wait for them to leave because it all becomes no parking at 9pm, so then they just go in and give everyone a parking fine along with their defects.

Considering about 75% of the cars in there on a Thursday are P platers in POS cars, it's not a big deal.

[tut0r]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Still happens.

Every now and then at 830pm on a Thursday night police will close the road at both roundabouts at foreshore. Trapping all the people out for a cruise in between and checking every car on the way out. You can't just sit and wait for them to leave because it all becomes no parking at 9pm, so then they just go in and give everyone a parking fine along with their defects.

Considering about 75% of the cars in there on a Thursday are P platers in POS cars, it's not a big deal.

Wow nothing really has changed, I went a few times and actually didn't see many people ****ing about. Was good to see the few cars done up and chat to people that share a love of cars, seems wherever you go now there is always one spastic wanting to do a burnout or light up some elevens down the street ruining it for the rest of us.

[Nova 8]

Hoon laws, giving police powers they aren't allowed.

The police have no right t hold a person up while they process the person in front of them. The should, by the law, allow all cars to flow through until they are ready to process another car as they do for breatho tests. If hold everyone up and you are caught you could argue in court that because they held you up they impeded your rights to movement making their actions illegal which gets you our of the fine. Just cause the police say or do something doesn't make it correct or even legal, that's up to a judge.

I can't count the number of times I've been told I can't take photos or film in public, esp when said pictures are of the police. I've had them threaten to take my camera as 'evidence' of a crime if I fail to comply. I've even been taken into custody for it, had my time wasted and then let go.

[marty351]

If it is not written in the law, then it is not against the law.
It sounds alot like entrapment, false imprisonment and wrongful arrest, but the way our democratically elected politicians have changed legislation away from civil rights, everyone gets screwed.

[superfly]

Yeah I think it's time to give it up or you must do it 100% right. I got rid of my 99 WRX for this reason. I never got pulled over in it (other than speeding) in the 10 years I had it. But I knew the writing was on the wall.
I was driving my wife's WRX with my wife and 2 kids in the car and I got pulled over at a RBT even though all the bays were full. They checked the car but not my breath. I got a defect for an APS bov which I thought was legal. Anyways he said it wasn't and that was that. The car luckily has very minimal mods on it but still you get targetted. I just have to make sure all is 100% legal. Whereas in the XR50, they don't even bat an eyelid. I could drive past with bald tyres and they wouldn't even check.

[HULK_I6T]

Originally Posted by XR6menace

Everyone makes mistakes , it's how we deal with them that reveals our true character...

And i needed to pull my head in anyway, so it was a timely reminder

It's not really a mistake, more that you knew what is legal and illegal and ran the gauntlet.

Car enthusiasts with illegal mods are like the people at the airport that don't declare the illegal things in their bags, they hope they won't get caught. But when they do its time to pay the price.

Getting caught with an illegal bov is one thing, just change it over to the legal bov... But getting caught with an illegal supercharger setup??

Unless your a teenager I'd say its time to call it a day.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

Regardless of what car you drive, I believe attitude towards the police is whats going to determine how severe they are on you.

If the police were genuine servants of the public and actually using common sense, there wouldn't be an attitude problem towards them.

However they are not servants of the public, they are the enforcement arm of govco, employees of an entity we the public have no stake in.

With a critical mass of people that realise they serve us and not the other way round, it would be a different story and threads like this wouldn't exist.

Sadly, govco has been very successful at indoctrinating the public into believing they are all powerful and almost demi-gods.

For shame Australia...

[EASYBOSS]

It's not Friday anymore, time to close the Friday Hulk thread

[Matty4]

Originally Posted by GT-0733

so, basically they discriminate. isn't that unlawful in this once wonderful country?

It's not discrimination, it's called profiling

[blackf6]

Just buy a modern muscle car and flash tune it done. And don't drive it like you stole it everywhere.

[Nova 8]

Originally Posted by Matty4

It's not discrimination, it's called profiling

being of a certain race, age group or religion is not grounds. Police shouldn't be pulling people over just because they fall into a certain group, they have no right to pull you over if you have done nothing wrong simply because you are a p plater. This is text book discrimination and if we're done to any other sector there would be outrage but harrassing p platers is popular with the general public. Just look at the bs curfews applied to p platers, this is against their human rights to limit their movements and is a punishment saved for criminals who are usually repeat offenders.

Driving is a right, not a privilage. A right we had taken away from us, a license is for taxi drivers, truck drivers and the like. Those who use their car to commute privately were never meant to be forced to get licenses.

[brennan.]

From my point of view, that is far across the ditch in NZ, it seems you need our help. New Zealands Low Volume Vehicle Technical Assosiation is world class. If you have a mod and you get that cert plate, you can not be messed with by cops. Sure there are the dumb kids in their Hondas who get the plate and proceed to bend the rules and do a whole heap of dodgy stuff after the fact but those people will always be hassled no matter what people do to try and help them. Perhaps it's time the Australian government stopped meddling so much in the peoples lives and take reasonable steps to let the true enthusiasts enjoy their pass time (or obsession).

Disclaimer - The preceding was simply an opinion from a concerned 3rd party about the wellbeing of my fellow car enthusiasts, no argument will be entered into regarding the plausibility of the suggestions contained.