Advice on buying a First Car.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

Please detail what you went through with your XY RTVish thing? What parts were modded, out of what car did they come out of, cost, engineering, compliance and such. You talk it down yet youve done a similar thing on an older Falcon wagon. Why didnt you buy a Territory then?

I asked this via PM, with no response.

Any chance of pictures of this supposedly existing XY? Would love to see it.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

I have most of the parts i need already for my RTV AUII project...just missing the diff, anti tramp rods and cosmetics....plus engineering, wont be a problem. Insurance with Justcars will do fine also.
This will cost less than a Territory..BY FAR.

Either way, it will work, i want and need an AUII RTV wagon, so i will do just that. Id rather spend a kidneys worth building it than purchase and drive a Territory.

Many talk but dont do it...well im doing it.

Please detail what you went through with your XY RTVish thing? What parts were modded, out of what car did they come out of, cost, engineering, compliance and such. You talk it down yet youve done a similar thing on an older Falcon wagon. Why didnt you buy a Territory then?



Mines had no trouble at all...corrugations and all.....in much better comfort and drive than an 80 series ( yes i have driven one). I may be based in Sydney, but i get around.....

Yes and you have been driving for many years. The OP doesn't even have his licence. My thinking is start in a car that is built for it , later on get the car you want. But end of the day if you are capable of driving the roads in a falcon go for it and have fun.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by xisled

Yes and you have been driving for many years. The OP doesn't even have his licence. My thinking is start in a car that is built for it , later on get the car you want. But end of the day if you are capable of driving the roads in a falcon go for it and have fun.

Correct I don't have my licence, but the assumption I am inexperienced on dirt roads is not.
In that regard, I've been driving longer than TheInterceptor! Overall though he probably has done more I figure!

Starting at 3, Dad taught me to drive on an aunty and uncles farm for years. Driving on my own by 7. Countless hours I spent on that farm driving in all conditions, in all kinds of vehicles! Semis, hay loaders, combine harvesters, sprayers, tractors, bulldozer, 69 HT Holden... After not far off 1 year on L's, I'm still far more comfortable driving on a dirt road, because I'm all too familiar. Obviously I'll still learn a lot more from more experience. Getting L's was more of a lesson of how to handle being in traffic and other hazards in these new surroundings I'm driving in.
One day I'll probably get a 4wd of some sort, but for now, a Falcon/Fairlane whatever I get will probably be more suitable!
I promise I'll have fun

Cheers

[TheInterceptor]

Bugger it, delete post ....

[ZGM86]

Originally Posted by Mr. Grinzy

Starting at 3, Dad taught me to drive on an aunty and uncles farm for years. Driving on my own by 7. Countless hours I spent on that farm driving in all conditions, in all kinds of vehicles! Semis, hay loaders, combine harvesters, sprayers, tractors, bulldozer, 69 HT Holden... After not far off 1 year on L's, I'm still

That's how I learned to drive too, at 12 years old in a TC Cortina.

My old EB2 Falcon wagon and my DA2 LTD were both great on dirt roads, I did a lot of driving in the country in the early days (both from living and working in the country, and going camping and bushwalking a lot). From that, I can safely say that an AU Fairlane will be a great car for your needs. It will be more than adequate at handling dirt roads, and extremely comfortable to boot.

That long wheelbase will make it feel more settled on dirt roads, as well.

[Stagg]

Thundercougarfalconbird would be awesome!!

That said from my experience buying secondhand cars you'll always end up spending cash on it as soon as you buy it because something will need fixing, so if you only have $4k don't spend $4k all at once, you might need $1000 in 2-3 months time.

I would get an AU because they're a lot easier to work on and the 4L motors last forever. BA series has DOHC and transmission problems will cost you more than the car without an external transmission cooler.

Plus because your in busselton, with an AU wagon you can find a nice one with roof racks and take the surfboards down to margaret river ahah

But yeah if I had $4k to spend I would spend $3k and keep a little just in case anything goes wrong. $3k can get you a decent AU

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by ZGM86

That's how I learned to drive too, at 12 years old in a TC Cortina.

My old EB2 Falcon wagon and my DA2 LTD were both great on dirt roads, I did a lot of driving in the country in the early days (both from living and working in the country, and going camping and bushwalking a lot). From that, I can safely say that an AU Fairlane will be a great car for your needs. It will be more than adequate at handling dirt roads, and extremely comfortable to boot.

That long wheelbase will make it feel more settled on dirt roads, as well.

We had a EAII wagon until I was 7 when we bought the AUII Futura wagon at auction, so that was the first car I drove (into a bush once when I was 4....). The uncle and aunty who own the farm then bought a NC V8 Fairlane, which I also drove wth my cousins a couple times.

Both our AUII and BAII handle the dirt really well, the BAII probably more so, because the AUII has suspension modifications in the rear for heavy loads, so it can be a bit more unsettled, Im used to it though!
The extra comfort and features of a Fairlane will be a bit of a novelty to me, as well as it being my second favourite AU, after AUII Futura wagons (biased :P)

Originally Posted by Stagg

Thundercougarfalconbird would be awesome!!

That said from my experience buying secondhand cars you'll always end up spending cash on it as soon as you buy it because something will need fixing, so if you only have $4k don't spend $4k all at once, you might need $1000 in 2-3 months time.

I would get an AU because they're a lot easier to work on and the 4L motors last forever. BA series has DOHC and transmission problems will cost you more than the car without an external transmission cooler.

Plus because your in busselton, with an AU wagon you can find a nice one with roof racks and take the surfboards down to margaret river ahah

But yeah if I had $4k to spend I would spend $3k and keep a little just in case anything goes wrong. $3k can get you a decent AU

Not yet sure how much I'll spend yet because Mum and Dad haven't decided what they will give me (busy business season atm, so I'll know soon ish) to add to my existing funds. I'll get a job and put money away for the car and keep it there for emergencies!

I'm not keen on getting anything B series, I much prefer the way our AUII drives compared with the BAII anyway.

Haha, our wagon has roof racks already, but I'm not into surfing haha, I go kayaking instead! Sometimes I surf the waves with the kayak though... Whatever I get will have roof racks chucked on for that! (and I'll have to figure out a way to get the thing up there on my own!)

Also trying to steer clear of LPG or dual fuel cars. Our BAII had a LPG system fitted a fw years ago, it works, and is cheaper... but I hate the lack of boot space and hate filling it more! That *PSSSSSHHHHHHHHHTTT* sound when you release the handle just freaks me out!

[Stagg]

Originally Posted by Mr. Grinzy

Not yet sure how much I'll spend yet because Mum and Dad haven't decided what they will give me (busy business season atm, so I'll know soon ish) to add to my existing funds. I'll get a job and put money away for the car and keep it there for emergencies!

I'm not keen on getting anything B series, I much prefer the way our AUII drives compared with the BAII anyway.

Haha, our wagon has roof racks already, but I'm not into surfing haha, I go kayaking instead! Sometimes I surf the waves with the kayak though... Whatever I get will have roof racks chucked on for that! (and I'll have to figure out a way to get the thing up there on my own!)

Also trying to steer clear of LPG or dual fuel cars. Our BAII had a LPG system fitted a fw years ago, it works, and is cheaper... but I hate the lack of boot space and hate filling it more! That *PSSSSSHHHHHHHHHTTT* sound when you release the handle just freaks me out!

Yep AUII would be perfect man, plenty of those wherever you go, just find the one that your happiest with Really easy to work on, I'm not a mechanic but I rebuilt my AU motor and replaced the suspension and whole front end myself, and if I can do it than anyone can

You'll go round and round in circles deciding but for simplicity and best bang for buck grab an AUII

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by Stagg

Yep AUII would be perfect man, plenty of those wherever you go, just find the one that your happiest with Really easy to work on, I'm not a mechanic but I rebuilt my AU motor and replaced the suspension and whole front end myself, and if I can do it than anyone can

You'll go round and round in circles deciding but for simplicity and best bang for buck grab an AUII

AUII Fairlane I6 VCT in sparkling burgandy, THAT would be perfect alternative to the wagon we have ('til I can get that :P)... actually a LTD would be better but they're more spensive.

I'll take whatever I can get if it fits the bill! I'd prefer less than 200,000 but thats not a definite, and prefer a colour other than white and silver on these, I'm not into silver and I don't think white suits the shape as well as other colours!

Well done with all the work you've done! Another good thing about these is the availability of parts! (usually cheap too!)
Sometimes when it comes to a breakdown, it can mean the difference of a day or two or a week or two!

[weairy]

Wait wait wait wait wait.

You can drive a V8/Turbo on your Ps in WA? I'm incredibly jealous.

Also, if you're not really heart-set on a Ford, could I maybe suggest a VT/VX Commodore in a decent grade (S-Pac or similar). I had one as my first car, 1998 VT Exec, manual, crank handle windows, no cruise, 200ks, still wish I had it. Easy to drive and not bad on fuel and still not an over aged shape.

Or if you want to spend a little more, look at getting a small 2-3k loan (probably only cost you $150 a month!).

Just some ideas.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by weairy

Wait wait wait wait wait.

You can drive a V8/Turbo on your Ps in WA? I'm incredibly jealous.

Also, if you're not really heart-set on a Ford, could I maybe suggest a VT/VX Commodore in a decent grade (S-Pac or similar). I had one as my first car, 1998 VT Exec, manual, crank handle windows, no cruise, 200ks, still wish I had it. Easy to drive and not bad on fuel and still not an over aged shape.

Or if you want to spend a little more, look at getting a small 2-3k loan (probably only cost you $150 a month!).

Just some ideas.

Yep, I can drive V8/Turbo cars, and have no speed restrictions on Ps. Laws and regulations tend to be more relaxed here.

Ideas and suggestions are what I started the thread for, to see what others think.
I'd prefer a Ford, and a AU compared to a VT/X. Prefer the interior, and the exterior on the wagons, and the 4.0L I6 over the V6! We had a neighbor when we lived in Perth with a VT, was pretty good, but when we got the AUII wagon, it blew it away IMO! The engine especially, being much smoother (especially at higher revs) and sounding better at all revs.
I actually just witnessed a VX sedan and a AUII sedan, both sixes and in similar condition appearance wise. Both autos dropped down, the VT went first, sounded dull, and the AUII was singing compared, and made the VT sound rough.

Overall, from what I've read and know from experience, the Ford beats the Holden.

I could get a loan but probably wont to avoid dealing with repayments and interest.

Thanks

[Werd.]

Originally Posted by Mr. Grinzy

Both autos dropped down, the VT went first, sounded dull, and the AUII was singing compared, and made the VT sound rough.

Thanks

I can't stand the sound of the 3.8 after living in a lower socioeconomic area for a few years... It's all I heard going to sleep at night.

The i6 certainly sounds nice though, the engine that is, my ears do not appreciate the sound whenever i hear one with an exhaust.

[weairy]

I'm going to probably cop it for saying this, but I reckon my old VT pulled to 200km/h a hell of a lot easier than my FG. Ok, so my FG pulls to 120km/h a lot faster and sounds a hell of a lot better doing it (the missus used to say the VT sounded like some sort of spaceship), but the Commo used to feel a lot nicer on the road. I don't know about the autos, seeing as mine was a manual. I'm biased though, I hate AUs with a passion :P

[Werd.]

Originally Posted by weairy

I hate AUs with a passion :P

Uh oh.. You've started it now

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by Werd.

I can't stand the sound of the 3.8 after living in a lower socioeconomic area for a few years... It's all I heard going to sleep at night.

The i6 certainly sounds nice though, the engine that is, my ears do not appreciate the sound whenever i hear one with an exhaust.

I can't say I like the sound much more haha!

I agree about the I6, it has a nice sound pretty much all the time. Big loud exhausts that overpower the sound of an engine frustrate me! A subtle exhaust note is great. A louder one for exhaust flow would be my choice for a rally car though!

Originally Posted by weairy

I'm going to probably cop it for saying this, but I reckon my old VT pulled to 200km/h a hell of a lot easier than my FG. Ok, so my FG pulls to 120km/h a lot faster and sounds a hell of a lot better doing it (the missus used to say the VT sounded like some sort of spaceship), but the Commo used to feel a lot nicer on the road. I don't know about the autos, seeing as mine was a manual. I'm biased though, I hate AUs with a passion :P

That's okay, I don't care for VTs much more... especially the one that wanted to drag me off at the lights last week in the BAII Something wasn't right with it! He took off with a little wheelspin and most horrible sound ever, and I swear if I'd booted the Falcon I'd have been across the intercection before he crossed the white line!

Would be surprised about the pulling to 200km/h comparison there, but I also wonder why I'd care? I haven't seen any 200km/h zones lately and I don't fancy losing the privelige to drive that I've waited 13+ years for!

[MercurySilver]

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...5&sort=default

im thinking of going to look at that
V8 could be thirsty...but when you are a ten min drive to work i think it could be justified!

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by MercurySilver

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...5&sort=default

im thinking of going to look at that
V8 could be thirsty...but when you are a ten min drive to work i think it could be justified!

Looks good. I'd just be wary of how it was treated and if it'd be reliable.
And it's lowered which would mean I'd either destroy it or go insane trying to keep it good! Also I read pre-AU2s dont have the Smart Shield system, meaning there is apparently a way to steal the car without using a flatbed, as well as other improvements Series 2 vehicles have.

There is a car I'm aware of, but no one has time to come with me to Perth to see it at the mo, hafta wait till early-mid Jan.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by Mr. Grinzy

Looks good. I'd just be wary of how it was treated and if it'd be reliable.
And it's lowered which would mean I'd either destroy it or go insane trying to keep it good! Also I read pre-AU2s dont have the Smart Shield system, meaning there is apparently a way to steal the car without using a flatbed, as well as other improvements Series 2 vehicles have.

There is a car I'm aware of, but no one has time to come with me to Perth to see it at the mo, hafta wait till early-mid Jan.

You can steal heaps of newer cars without a truck. The BA can be stolen in under 20 minutes, takes 2 seconds to gain entry into all 4 doors. Even with the FG you can get entry into the car within 2 seconds without damaging the car.

[MercurySilver]

exactly
and thats what insurance is for

[Stagg]

Originally Posted by MercurySilver

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...5&sort=default

im thinking of going to look at that
V8 could be thirsty...but when you are a ten min drive to work i think it could be justified!

144,000km and upgraded pedders suspension and for $5k... great bargain or it's been thrashed maybe?

[flappist]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

I have most of the parts i need already for my RTV AUII project...just missing the diff, anti tramp rods and cosmetics....plus engineering, wont be a problem. Insurance with Justcars will do fine also.
This will cost less than a Territory..BY FAR.

Either way, it will work, i want and need an AUII RTV wagon, so i will do just that. Id rather spend a kidneys worth building it than purchase and drive a Territory.

Many talk but dont do it...well im doing it.

Please detail what you went through with your XY RTVish thing? What parts were modded, out of what car did they come out of, cost, engineering, compliance and such. You talk it down yet youve done a similar thing on an older Falcon wagon. Why didnt you buy a Territory then?



Mines had no trouble at all...corrugations and all.....in much better comfort and drive than an 80 series ( yes i have driven one). I may be based in Sydney, but i get around.....

If you don't value youe own time then of course an AU is cheaper.
But then if you did an engineering degree, several manufacturing degrees and diplomas, mined various ores and grew various plants then built a smelter and fabrication plant tou could make a Phase 3 GTHO for free......... might take a while though.....

The reason why I have an XY rather than a territory is becuase its purpose is to raise money for disabled children via Variety and the rules are the car must be at least 30 years old.
It is engineered for rough terrane because some of the place we go are difficult for many 4WDs.
My engine is held in place with chains, there is a 6mm back plate protecting the engine and trans with another protecting the diff.
It carries 4 spare tyres and most of the major components that might break like axles, suspension components and engine components.
It is a 250 rebuilt to run on ordinary ULP with a dual barrel carb and triple air filtering.

It cost almost $20k to build it and get it engineered to be legal and safe in all states which is mandatory as we spend a lot of time at schools and with kids.
Fortunately most donated their time and components in helping me especially Huston Ford in Kingaroy and Russell Bates Ford in Hervey Bay.

This is of course the second vehicle like this I have been involved with, the first being a XP sedan of similar config although it was actually owned by a friend.

So when you say talking the talk or starting to walk the walk, remember some have already walked the walk several times.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hog...=photos_stream

[Stagg]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

I have most of the parts i need already for my RTV AUII project...just missing the diff, anti tramp rods and cosmetics....plus engineering, wont be a problem. Insurance with Justcars will do fine also.
This will cost less than a Territory..BY FAR.

Either way, it will work, i want and need an AUII RTV wagon, so i will do just that. Id rather spend a kidneys worth building it than purchase and drive a Territory.

Many talk but dont do it...well im doing it.

Please detail what you went through with your XY RTVish thing? What parts were modded, out of what car did they come out of, cost, engineering, compliance and such. You talk it down yet youve done a similar thing on an older Falcon wagon. Why didnt you buy a Territory then?



Mines had no trouble at all...corrugations and all.....in much better comfort and drive than an 80 series ( yes i have driven one). I may be based in Sydney, but i get around.....

Do you have or are you starting a build thread for that?? Would be interesting to see how it turns out!

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by xisled

You can steal heaps of newer cars without a truck. The BA can be stolen in under 20 minutes, takes 2 seconds to gain entry into all 4 doors. Even with the FG you can get entry into the car within 2 seconds without damaging the car.

I keep being told two things on this subject. One person says there is no way to steal an AU2 onwards because of the immobiliser and such unless a truck is used, meanwhile the other says pretty much the opposite as you have.

How is this gain of entry exicuted? If it takes two seconds to gain entry then why are cars fitted with locks at all? Takes two seconds to lock the thing, could save everyone time.

Someone entering my car and trying to find valuables doesn't worry me too much, as I don't leave anything valuable in cars. My only concern is someone taking the car! It is not a major concern though as we've been here 10 years and nothing has happend to any of our cars.

Can anybody properly clarify all this for me?

Originally Posted by Stagg

144,000km and upgraded pedders suspension and for $5k... great bargain or it's been thrashed maybe?

144,000 and a V8 for $5,000, I'd be very, very wary. But if it's easy enough to go check it out, could turn out to be a great bargain.

Originally Posted by Stagg

Do you have or are you starting a build thread for that?? Would be interesting to see how it turns out!

TheInterceptor and I have both been dreaming the same idea for years, AUII RTV wagons.
Pretty much somehow we decided since we want to build the same thing we would make one thread for both cars. We'll have to see how things turn out though first. He has most of the parts and the car, but can't start yet because "no space, no time, no money". So It'll quite likely have to wait till after April after his trip over here.

[MercurySilver]

Originally Posted by Stagg

144,000km and upgraded pedders suspension and for $5k... great bargain or it's been thrashed maybe?

any obvious signs to look for to know if its had a thrashing?
im not the most mechanical minded person so wouldnt be sure of what to look at/for

good luck in the hunt
hopefully you find a bargain thats fully optioned grandpa owned

[TheInterceptor]

Originally Posted by flappist

If you don't value youe own time then of course an AU is cheaper.
But then if you did an engineering degree, several manufacturing degrees and diplomas, mined various ores and grew various plants then built a smelter and fabrication plant tou could make a Phase 3 GTHO for free......... might take a while though.....

The reason why I have an XY rather than a territory is becuase its purpose is to raise money for disabled children via Variety and the rules are the car must be at least 30 years old.
It is engineered for rough terrane because some of the place we go are difficult for many 4WDs.
My engine is held in place with chains, there is a 6mm back plate protecting the engine and trans with another protecting the diff.
It carries 4 spare tyres and most of the major components that might break like axles, suspension components and engine components.
It is a 250 rebuilt to run on ordinary ULP with a dual barrel carb and triple air filtering.

It cost almost $20k to build it and get it engineered to be legal and safe in all states which is mandatory as we spend a lot of time at schools and with kids.
Fortunately most donated their time and components in helping me especially Huston Ford in Kingaroy and Russell Bates Ford in Hervey Bay.

This is of course the second vehicle like this I have been involved with, the first being a XP sedan of similar config although it was actually owned by a friend.

So when you say talking the talk or starting to walk the walk, remember some have already walked the walk several times.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hog...=photos_stream

If i dont value my own time? Sorry sir but i enjoy working on my own car as do many members on here, am i not allowed to spend many hours and many dollars building a car ive wanted for a very long time that will suit my every purpose? Sounds like you dont approve anyway, but thats allright with me as its not your time n money

Nice! Sounds like a mad rig. Engine held in with chains?? Ive never heard of that before.
That sounds allright. Alot more work and engineering than what i will have to go through.

Never doubted that Flappist. Ive done some walking so i know what im getting into, just need to get started which will be a while yet.

Got access to facebook via a friend..XY looks cool haha.

Originally Posted by xisled

You can steal heaps of newer cars without a truck. The BA can be stolen in under 20 minutes, takes 2 seconds to gain entry into all 4 doors. Even with the FG you can get entry into the car within 2 seconds without damaging the car.

Yeah? I know it takes 2 seconds to get in, but i didnt think one could get in and do a runner?

Originally Posted by Stagg

Do you have or are you starting a build thread for that?? Would be interesting to see how it turns out!

Yeah as Grinzy said.."no space, no time, no money", i live in a unit, time isnt an issue (moreso timing haha), got my trek across Aus comin up soon yes so money is going towards that (plus it wont be ready by then if i start now), will likley move out of Sydney after that trip aswell so priorities are priorities now im digressing so all in all no build no thread!

[xisled]

Gaining entry into a car is easy. You just need a hook, can be made out of wire and something that you can use to push the door from the window. So you open a gap between the window and the door, put the wire hook down into the door and hook the lock bar (not sure of proper name) pull hook up and all 4 doors unlock. If you know what you are doing you can disable and bypass an immobiliser, couple of other things that can be done, but don't really want to post on the forum.

The reason why I have said about the door is because it is useful if you lock your keys in the car.

As another posted insurance is a must and probably best thing to protect you against theft.

[prydey]

if you will have about $4k to spend, then look at something worth $2k. you'll need the rest for rego and insurance etc.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by xisled

Gaining entry into a car is easy. You just need a hook, can be made out of wire and something that you can use to push the door from the window. So you open a gap between the window and the door, put the wire hook down into the door and hook the lock bar (not sure of proper name) pull hook up and all 4 doors unlock. If you know what you are doing you can disable and bypass an immobiliser, couple of other things that can be done, but don't really want to post on the forum.

The reason why I have said about the door is because it is useful if you lock your keys in the car.

As another posted insurance is a must and probably best thing to protect you against theft.

My sister locked the keys in the AUII wagon a couple years ago. Doors were locked, opened the tailgate, and left the keys on the floor when she closed it. Called the RAC and the bloke did just that with the wire, took him a good 20 minutes though, no 2 seconds as you say.
I'd like to insure it, but if insurance costs are too close to the worth of the car, it really isn't worth it. I will definitely have 3rd party insurance.

Originally Posted by prydey

if you will have about $4k to spend, then look at something worth $2k. you'll need the rest for rego and insurance etc.

As yet I haven't got any idea how much, I know how much I have, but my parents haven't decided how much they want/can afford to give me.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by Mr. Grinzy

My sister locked the keys in the AUII wagon a couple years ago. Doors were locked, opened the tailgate, and left the keys on the floor when she closed it. Called the RAC and the bloke did just that with the wire, took him a good 20 minutes though, no 2 seconds as you say.
I'd like to insure it, but if insurance costs are too close to the worth of the car, it really isn't worth it. I will definitely have 3rd party insurance.



As yet I haven't got any idea how much, I know how much I have, but my parents haven't decided how much they want/can afford to give me.

20 minutes, I've seen it done in a few seconds. With the insurance you can get third party property damage and fire and theft. Heaps cheaper than comprehensive. Third party insurance is what you get with your rego, third party property damage covers for damage you may cause. Especially with your first car make sure you get it. Heaps of people think the third party insurance you get with your rego covers the property damage you may cause, because people see the name and assume they have property damage insurance.

[OffRoadFalcon]

Originally Posted by xisled

20 minutes, I've seen it done in a few seconds. With the insurance you can get third party property damage and fire and theft. Heaps cheaper than comprehensive. Third party insurance is what you get with your rego, third party property damage covers for damage you may cause. Especially with your first car make sure you get it. Heaps of people think the third party insurance you get with your rego covers the property damage you may cause, because people see the name and assume they have property damage insurance.

Whoever did that must have been experienced at getting into AUs? I'm not hugely concerned by theft, the likelyhood isn't very great where I live as far as I'm aware, and none of the 3 cars we've owned/own while living here 10 years have been busted into nor taken! I don't leave things in cars either.


Thanks very much for that info on insurance. I did know that 3rd party that comes with rego doesn't cover property damage that I cause. 3rd party property damage was what I was referring to, I will definitely get that, I'd hate to be up for lots of money for damagings property.

I wasn't aware you could get third party, fire, and theft insurance though. That would probably be the best option for me.

Thanks again!