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08-04-2012, 11:39 PM | #31 | |||
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I can not stand the mashed up white sponge they try to pass off as calamari, I can't even eat that rubbish..
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09-04-2012, 01:26 AM | #33 | |||||
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And also agree with Mitch on the "rubber band" comment. Like I said, its why I'll buy actual squid tubes (that would be hard to claim any other fish as due to unique shape) and cut the rings from it myself. In fact, might have to go to a seafood joint later tomorrow arvo and get some for dinner tomorrow night, got a real taste for some real squid now...
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09-04-2012, 01:38 AM | #34 | |||
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It's not like it's advertised as flake and sold equal to haddock or whatever crappy fish it is. People won't pay for it because they can get real flake for that price. Stop trying to rip people off through deceptive advertising. Maybe you could buy my old Pentium 2, I'll even put an put a i7 sticker on it for you so you can feel satisfied with what you paid for. Because I'm sure you're ok with that right? Just like all the other people you expect to be. It's devious, disgusting false advertising, and I can't respect someone who condones this I'm sorry. There's a reason that **** is put into fish fingers and costs $3 in the frozen foods section. Don't get upset because the people you rip off daily have grown wise to your ploy. God I can't believe people have the indecency to do this not to mention defend it, blatant rip off. Lol who am I kidding, people suck and the ones with all your money are the ones telling you to stop being so cheap. I love it mate, you call people cheap for not wanting to buy COUNTERFEIT fish?? When selling counterfeit fish has to be the cheapest most deceptive thing in hospitality.
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09-04-2012, 09:13 AM | #35 | |||
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Who are you to accuse me of not buying local,the only aussies who want everything cheap are the dodgy business owners so they can blatantly rip you and me off every time they sell something as genuine. Sorry but your argument is only frequently used by people who have nfi....... or one of those shop owners who are into dodgy work practises and who dont care about their customers or their own business..........and since you are being so patriotic, do you know how much business fraud costs Australia? In 2008 the cost to Australia was $8.5 billion and those numbers are from the federal government........... ps-im not sure, but are you trying to gee us up Pepscobra? cheers,Maka
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09-04-2012, 11:02 AM | #36 | ||
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I'm not a fan of fish, as they all taste the same to me (except canned Tuna, thats nice), but I do go the ol' "Flake" at the fish and chip shop.
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09-04-2012, 11:18 AM | #37 | |||
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09-04-2012, 02:30 PM | #38 | ||
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hmmm.... i guess its a sign of the times. asking for real fish and getting some substitute,, a bit like going to a burger franchise and asking for a steak burger.. dodgy as.
in this age of over regulation for most things you would think that someone would have the power to check up on what we are being fed.
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09-04-2012, 03:07 PM | #39 | ||
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This is timely given good Friday, we got fish and chips and had a choice between Basa and Flake.
So I was of the opinion that Basa some a cheaper form of flake, so I naturally asked for Flake. But it still tasted pretty poor, actually, it was so plain there was no taste. Where does Basa fit into the scale? (ha pun)
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09-04-2012, 04:21 PM | #40 | |||
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see: http://www.seafoodservices.com.au/fishnames
It does look like Victoria is not that interested in managing the issue. Quote:
a) Australian seas are actually not that productive (little in the way of ocean upwellings that bring nutrients to the surface and most of our river systems are fed from deserts) compared to the rest of the world; b)Australia consumes much more seafood than it produces; c) most of our high value seafood (rock lobster) is exported to places like China where it gets a better price; d) with increasing population and greater access to previously inaccessible coastal areas an increasing share of the available Australian wild stock fish resources is being moved from the commercial to the recreational fishing sector; and e) our labour and infrastructure costs means its usually cheaper to aquaculture fish overseas.
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09-04-2012, 04:37 PM | #41 | |||
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Ok, sorry, maybe I got off track to the op's intention, but it was mentioned about the barramundi that is imported and other cheap substitutes. Unfortunately its a sign of the times and a symptom of our economy. I'm just passionate about it. Cheers.
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09-04-2012, 05:16 PM | #42 | |||
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Basa Fillets Warning General Discussion Someone sent me this info not sure how true it is but i tend to believe it. BASA FILLETS are a common fish in all the local food stores. Many are snatching up the fish at supermarkets as they are very cheap. The fish looks good but read the article and you will be shocked. This product is from Vietnam. Do you eat this frozen fish called BASA? ( Pangasius, Vietnamese River Cobbler, White Catfish, Gray Sole ) Industrially farmed in Vietnam along the Mekong River, BASA or Pangas or whatever they're calling it, has only been recently introduced to the French market. However, in a very short amount of time, it has grown in popularity in France. They are very, very affordable (cheap), are sold in filets with no bones and they have a neutral flavor and texture; many would compare it to cod and sole, only much cheaper. But as tasty as some people may find it, there's, in fact, something hugely unsavory about it. I hope the information provided here will serve as very important information for you and your future choices. Here's why it is better left in the shops and not on your dinner plates: 1. BASAS or Pangas are teeming with high levels of poisons and bacteria. (industrial effluents, arsenic, and toxic and hazardous by-products of the growing industrial sector, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), DDT and its metabolites (DDTs), metal contaminants, chlordane-related compounds (CHLs), hexachlorocyclohexane isomers (HCHs), and hexachlorobenzene (HCB) ). The reason is that the Mekong River is one of the most polluted rivers on the planet and this is where basa/pangas are farmed and industries along the river dump chemicals and industrial waste directly into it. Avoid eating them because they contain high amounts of contamination. Regardless of Reports and recommendations against selling them, supermarkets still sell them, knowing full well that they are contaminated. 2. They freeze Basa/Pangas in contaminated river water. 3. BASA/Pangas are raised in Vietnam . Pangas are fed food that comes from Peru ( more on that below ), their hormones ( which are injected into the female Pangas ) come from China . ( More about that below ) and finally, they are transported from Vietnam to other countries . 4. There's nothing natural about Basa/Pangas - They're fed dead fish remnants and bones, dried and ground into a flour (from South America), manioc ( cassava ) and residue from soy and grains. This kind of nourishment doesn't even remotely resemble what they eat in nature. But what it does resemble is the method of feeding mad cows ( cows were fed cows, remember? ). What they feed basa/pangas is completely unregulated so there are most likely other dangerous substances and hormones thrown into the mix. The basa/pangas grow 4 times faster than in nature, so it makes you wonder what exactly is in their food? Your guess is as good as mine. 5. Basa/Pangas are injected with Hormones Derived from Urine. They inject female Basa/Pangas with hormones made from the dehydrated urine of pregnant women, the female Pangas grow much quicker and produce eggs faster ( one Basa/Panga can lay approximately 500,000 eggs at one time ). Essentially, they're injecting fish with hormones ( they come all of the way from a pharmaceutical company in China ) to speed up the process of growth and reproduction. That isn't good. And also consider the rest of the reasons to NOT eat BASA. 6. You get what you pay for - and then some. Don't be lured in by insanely cheap price of Basa/Pangas. Is it worth risking your health and the health of your family? 7. Buying Basa/Pangas supports unscrupulous, greedy corporations and food conglomerates that don't care about the health and well-being of human beings. They are only concerned about selling as many basa/pangas as possible to unsuspecting consumers. These corporations only care about making more money at whatever cost to the public.. 8. Basa/Pangas WILL make you sick - If you don't get ill with vomiting, diarrhea and effects from severe food poisoning, congratulations, you have an iron stomach! But you're still ingesting POISON not "poisson". Final important note: Because of the prodigious amount of availability of Basa/Pangas, be warned that they will certainly find their way into other foods like imitation crab sticks, fish sticks, fish terrines, and probably in some pet food too. Just check the Ingredient List to see if Basa is one of the ingredients. Good Luck. You have been warned !!! |
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09-04-2012, 05:18 PM | #43 | ||
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4cykHy0RM
I know its Today Tonight trying to be sensational, but still!! Also there are heaps of fresh fish that are ok to eat from oz that are at least as cheap! Leatherjackets, yellow eye mullet, even Australian salmon and wrasse are other very very cheap fish that when real fresh are quite good eating! Last edited by EDManual; 09-04-2012 at 05:30 PM. |
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09-04-2012, 05:41 PM | #44 | ||
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Just as an interesting point from a neutral observer here... I've never been fishing in my life.
I haven't really ever eaten much fish, oysters etc, it just never did it for me. This has changed in the last few months. My best mate is a commercial construction foreman and he built/ran the build of the new wholesale fish market here in Melbourne. Kensington actually and finished only in the last 2 months. I am a convert. I love cooking, I watch heaps of cooking shows etc and just couldn't work out why they always rave on about fish. I do now. Fresh, crazy quality and whole fish etc. I would never had considered having fish over a good steak but I certainly do now. I'd actually prefer it. He is able to get the most amazing oysters, salmon, blue eye, rockling etc and it is just stunning. From the wholesalers and what he is told is the stuff that is for them, will never get to market. Just brilliant. I could never understand once again why people in general where so mad about fish but I, once again, do now. Good seafood is worth every penny! Jack
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09-04-2012, 07:27 PM | #45 | |||
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Obviously a very passionate debate and one close to everyones heart lol! I ,(like everyone else), am extremly disappointed at the gradual whittling down of our agriculture and manufacturing sectors over the many years and this situation and discussion is just one of the many manifestations of this problem. A choice will have to be made in the near future by our leaders - the future of our great country and people or keep playing on a unlevel playing field undermining our children and their children's future......... We (Australia) are not the dumping ground for cheap, nasty foreign goods & services while our people are suffering in the 10s of thousands. ps, Great to see the many members airing their thoughts & opinions! ! cheers,Maka
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09-04-2012, 08:18 PM | #46 | ||
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My father in law has been in commercial fishing for years and its great when we go there and he's caught fresh bream and a bull shark or two for a feed. Great, great tasting stuff. He was (still is?) part of Fishwatch.
I will never eat Basa, it's just cheap rubbish. And there are only two places I will eat seafood from a shop. One is the fish and chip store at Portside Hamilton (pay through the nose for it though) and Peter's Seafood Market at Main Beach near Seaworld.
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09-04-2012, 09:15 PM | #47 | ||
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The problem with eating a lot of flake (shark) is the methylmercury content especially with mature specimens see http://www.ffc.org.au/Mercury_and_fish.html
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09-04-2012, 09:43 PM | #48 | |||
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Not a fan of fish BUT worst Fish and Chips I've ever had by a long way? Manly in Sydney cost 20 bucks too. Told the waiter, he laughed and said the business is not about repeat customers. Patrons are all tourists so they buy once and go back home.... |
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10-04-2012, 10:47 AM | #49 | ||
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Guys the swear filter is there for TWO reasons:
1) To keep the forum family friendly 2) To prevent you getting a holiday. If you do purposely avoid it then the forum will not be family friendly and we will have to fix it but don't worry YOU will not be able to see it for a while...... hint hint........ |
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10-04-2012, 12:23 PM | #50 | ||
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G6ET8U, even better than that is catching a fish yourself at say 4:30pm, scaling & filleting it and having your mrs cook it up and eating it by 6pm. I have never, ever had a more satisfying a meal in my life.
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10-04-2012, 12:51 PM | #51 | ||
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The only fish I tend to buy from the supermarket is Atlantic salmon.....
I catch the rest; king george, snapper, gummy, squid et al.. But if im ever to buy fresh fish, I'll buy whole and get the fishmonger to gut it for me, that way I know what I am eating.
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As a fisho I know these imports are grown in polluted water I've always told friends and family to buy local fish. What do they do? buy this Basa ****, cause it's cheap.
You can't win. As long as the local market is over priced they will lose their profit to these cheap imports.
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Interesting read, thanks for that EDManual.
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[QUOTE=Maka](1)Im not a whinger (2)Are you the mouthpeice for global inc? (3)Did you read the threads title?
Who are you to accuse me of not buying local,the only aussies who want everything cheap are the dodgy business owners so they can blatantly rip you and me off every time they sell something as genuine. Sorry but your argument is only frequently used by people who have nfi....... or one of those shop owners who are into dodgy work practises and who dont care about their customers or their own business..........and since you are being so patriotic, do you know how much business fraud costs Australia? In 2008 the cost to Australia was $8.5 billion and those numbers are from the federal government........... those figures are from the federal guvment.......so it must be true being serious now, i like a bit of the old fish myself, i have been sold something other than what i ordered before , as it seems very few if any fish shops in melbourne north know how to cook fish with any flavour other than old boot or dried out and cardboard so it`s hard to tell anyway , i travel 20 k`s for decent feed of fish n greasies to williamstown, the fish you order in this shop are in a glass fridge so you see what your getting, always good stuff. while we have a few fish experts , when i was in Geraldton WA, i went in to a fish shop and asked for flake, the dude looked at me like i was a martian, anyway he did`nt have know what flake was(fairdinkum) and did`nt have any, so he sold me Hokey, i did`nt think much of it , but what the hell is hokey? |
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*In 2008 the cost to Australia was $8.5 billion and those numbers are from the federal government...........
those figures are from the federal guvment.......so it must be true* Yeah mik! i was waiting for someone (as cynical as me?) to say something about that figure lol! As if they would know/admit the real figures but if they admitted that, whats the real cost (today) ? ps,that was takin from their own website........UMM OK! cheers, Maka
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Hoki is New Zealand Blue grenadier and is also usually what McDonald's Fillet-o - Fish is made from.
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