sway me. (thinking about buying non ford) - Page 2

XR6TCraig · 03-11-2008, 08:24 PM

Mate, I wouldn't rule out a Euro Hatch like the Golf GTI or the Renault Megane RS 225. These things go just great, particularly if you have a local road or two with some twisty bits!

I am a big fan of the Golf in particular.

You will get beaten by a V8 or turbo 6 in a straight line, but chances are you wont care because you'll blow them into the weeds around the corners and have the biggest smile on your dial when you drive it.

The best way to decide is to test drive as many cars as you can.

Oh and for what its worth, these types of cars ARE NOT girls cars. Its just that some of the cavemen on here believe that anything smaller (and newer) than a ZH Fairlaine was only meant to be driven by the fairer sex. They just need to get out more, possibly to test drive just how good some of the mid sized cars are.

Of course they also believe that stubbies and double pluggers are the height of male fashion and that real men don't wear deodorant.

Disregard these fellas and drive what gives you a grin mate!

b2tf · 03-11-2008, 08:33 PM

I'm not a fan of the new lancers, just the front end looks big and boofy. However I wouldn't think that you need to be "swayed" to buy something other than Ford - buy what suits you (and what you'll enjoy) most.

**DJM83** · 03-11-2008, 08:34 PM

Renault Megane RS225 gets my vote

MITCHAY · 03-11-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Torxteer

Theres heaps of male EVO drivers...

We have the standard Lancer hatches at work and I think the rear looks crap to be honest. So does everyone there. I dont think these things will be overly quick. Only 170 or so kw.

I have a WRX and it goes pretty good with only 169kw. I know of one bloke for example, pulled a 13.7 in a stock MY03. Fun cars!

I got pumped by a Polo GTi a few weeks back and had learned that it was putting down 160kws at the wheels. It was pretty impressive!

Windsor220 · 03-11-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I have a WRX and it goes pretty good with only 169kw. I know of one bloke for example, pulled a 13.7 in a stock MY03. Fun cars!

Yeah i'm not saying they would be slow but they wouldn't be the fastest things on the road.

vanman_75 · 03-11-2008, 08:48 PM

short drives little cars are great ,long drives you will get the rags ,ride suffers with less weight .looks are personel,performance is good in almost any car these days so small nifty fast or ,big comfy fast .i would go the falcon on size alone but thats suits my needs whats yours ?

Auslandau · 03-11-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Craiginmackay

Oh and for what its worth, these types of cars ARE NOT girls cars. Its just that some of the cavemen on here believe that anything smaller (and newer) than a ZH Fairlaine was only meant to be driven by the fairer sex. They just need to get out more, possibly to test drive just how good some of the mid sized cars are.

Of course they also believe that stubbies and double pluggers are the height of male fashion and that real men don't wear deodorant.

Disregard these fellas and drive what gives you a grin mate!

For what its worth .... he asked for opinions. They are girl cars ..... my opinion. I smell nice and my stubbies are ironed! UGG! My main point is you buy what you like. Thats why they have girl cars available for the fairer sex. If they rock your boat, buy one! Thank god for choices or we would all be forced to drive Corolla's.

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Ozfords · 03-11-2008, 08:50 PM

Try something different, theres more then just Ford.

Rodp · 03-11-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkr

The 3 MPS has hidious tourqe steer, and doesn't feel all that fast, I wouldn't recommend that.

You've driven one?

I wouldn't say the torque steer was hideous but it was noticeable on the one I test drove and it would have absolutely snotted my XR8, no problem. That being said, I didn't buy it.

I don't like the back of the hatchback on the Ralliart but if I was in the market today, I'd take it for a spin and see how she went.

RAPIDBILL · 03-11-2008, 09:23 PM

Have best of both worlds, I have the GT and the wife has 2 XR5 Focuses.

I drive one of the XR5's to work and am very impressed with the performance, handling, comfort and finish. Also the note you get from the motor into the cab is great and the six spead manual is short and smooth as. The interior is simple and well appointed and the Recaro seats make sure you are well held when you give it some stick. A real pleasure to drive.

So if you like Fords give the XR5 a test drive, I think you will be suitably impressed.

Elks · 03-11-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bd737

True. I've never met a male Lancer owner. Ever. .

I have a male friend with an EVO IX. Tricked & tuned punching out 500hp. No girls car. But it is a one dimensional buzz box. Wildly fast, cheap inside & out, uncomfortable, poorly equipped (no cruise control), poor ride & noisy. I'd hate to live with it, but it is fast.

TadKa · 03-11-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bystander31

what the hell steve

What happened to the ute?

Haha. he speaks!! yeah I took too long on that ute and he sold it. I should have bought it. Some good points. I dont really want to drive a girls car. I didnt buy the super pursuit as a posh chick said it was too bogan and told me to buy an audi or something. I like bogan cars. the hot hatch seems to be the place to go these days though. I don't really need a family size car but I want soemthing under $45k and quick.... and might pull me some women..... perhaps....

manxman · 03-11-2008, 10:10 PM

If your silly enough to buy Mistubishi you deserve what you get. NEVER buy FWD!!!!!!

TadKa · 03-11-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman

If your silly enough to buy Mistubishi you deserve what you get. NEVER buy FWD!!!!!!

No way. If I got a lancer it would def be the awd ralliart. would love evo 10 but its about $20k more

octanet · 03-11-2008, 10:28 PM

Before you look into any of these cars, DRIVE A FG TURBO, if you haven't allready. They do not drive like a large car. By all means, test drive as many of these different cars as possible, but I tell ya, the fg turbo is light years ahead of any of Fords previous offerings. In the end, it's YOUR choice, but you must make an informed decision.

FPV GT40 · 03-11-2008, 10:28 PM

Upgrade to a lancer...

makes no sense at all....

On top of that that is one hell ugly car....just my opinion of course..but you asked for it.

To be honest I don't think I have met one male lancer driver, ia guy at work, and he gets payed out by the girls for driving a girls car,

Good luck, buy what you like but remember you have to drive it see if they throw the paper bag in for free

Wretched · 03-11-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman

If your silly enough to buy Mistubishi you deserve what you get. NEVER buy FWD!!!!!!

What's wrong with Mitsuibishi?
The EVO X will pretty much silence just about anything on the track that Ford AU can offer.

What's exactly wrong with a well sorted FWD such as Focus XR5, RS, etc?

Oh that's right, haven't bothered to test one. Cling onto your barge *** Falcodores while they're still around :P

TadKa · 03-11-2008, 10:46 PM

What have I started

Actually when I was at the Mitsu dealership I said I've always had falcons and he said "oh, do they still make those" I said yeah and they make a lot more of them than 380's.

seduced_xr · 03-11-2008, 11:32 PM

im biased so my opinion doesnt really matter. ill be taking hold of a BF 2 XR shortly and once i get my hands on that ill be saving ever penny for a FG XR8 or 6 turbo

**cs123** · 04-11-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by myts

I have a male friend with an EVO IX. Tricked & tuned punching out 500hp. No girls car. But it is a one dimensional buzz box. Wildly fast, cheap inside & out, uncomfortable, poorly equipped (no cruise control), poor ride & noisy. I'd hate to live with it, but it is fast.

Seems like once a month there is a thread started about how Ford should build a HO that is stripped bare with a kick motor and suspension. Most people seem to like that idea ....

EgoFG · 04-11-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by octanet

Before you look into any of these cars, DRIVE A FG TURBO, if you haven't allready. They do not drive like a large car. By all means, test drive as many of these different cars as possible, but I tell ya, the fg turbo is light years ahead of any of Fords previous offerings. In the end, it's YOUR choice, but you must make an informed decision.

This is really the only comment you need to hear - all else is heresay.

Suck it and see

robjh80 · 04-11-2008, 09:52 AM

I bought a brand new CH VRX last year, sold it within 2 months.

Do a Google on "Mitsubishi Paint Issues", I for one just couldn't believe how thinly applied the paint was on mine, the paintwork was absolutely appalling!

I looked at stone chips on all other makes and models of cars in the car park where I work and all appeared to have a decent depth of paint on them, my Lancer was "barely there" at all, I cannot express to you just how thin it was, I was quite shocked when I inspected my first couple of stone chips on the bonnet .........the first of many I might add, just about anything chipped the paintwork on this POS!

I don't think I will ever buy another Mitsi again, at least not until they learn how to paint them properly.

Maybe take a visit over to some Mitsi Forums and have a good read about any issues actual owners are having with them before you buy.

For what it's worth I would be looking at something else if I where you, I think both the new, FG Falcon and Focus XR5 are just beautiful looking cars, far better than the new CJ Lancer imo.

As others here have mentioned the VW Golf Gti is another one I would be taking a closer look at as well.

**Polyal** · 04-11-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by octanet

Before you look into any of these cars, DRIVE A FG TURBO, if you haven't allready. They do not drive like a large car. By all means, test drive as many of these different cars as possible, but I tell ya, the fg turbo is light years ahead of any of Fords previous offerings. In the end, it's YOUR choice, but you must make an informed decision.

Agreed. XR6T is the best car in its price range by FAR! You would be mad (or have a chip on your shoulder) not to try it.

300C-CRD · 04-11-2008, 10:41 AM

If you want fun not speed, do try a Renault Clio Sport. Great little car if you are single and do most of the driving in town.

Jayden · 04-11-2008, 11:00 AM

exhaust sound. you need more cylinders just to remedy that huge flaw.

Wretched · 04-11-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by robjh80

I bought a brand new CH VRX last year, sold it within 2 months.

Do a Google on "Mitsubishi Paint Issues", I for one just couldn't believe how thinly applied the paint was on mine, the paintwork was absolutely appalling!

I looked at stone chips on all other makes and models of cars in the car park where I work and all appeared to have a decent depth of paint on them, my Lancer was "barely there" at all, I cannot express to you just how thin it was, I was quite shocked when I inspected my first couple of stone chips on the bonnet .........the first of many I might add, just about anything chipped the paintwork on this POS!

I don't think I will ever buy another Mitsi again, at least not until they learn how to paint them properly.

Maybe take a visit over to some Mitsi Forums and have a good read about any issues actual owners are having with them before you buy.

For what it's worth I would be looking at something else if I where you, I think both the new, FG Falcon and Focus XR5 are just beautiful looking cars, far better than the new CJ Lancer imo.

As others here have mentioned the VW Golf Gti is another one I would be taking a closer look at as well.

I wouldn't say Falcons are the best painted cars either, most of them never had paint under the doors.

XR06T · 04-11-2008, 11:15 AM

that lancer looks like a holden viva to me..

not my thing at all. heres another vote for a golf gti, or older r32.

Dave_au · 04-11-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robjh80

I bought a brand new CH VRX last year, sold it within 2 months.

Do a Google on "Mitsubishi Paint Issues", I for one just couldn't believe how thinly applied the paint was on mine, the paintwork was absolutely appalling!

Maybe take a visit over to some Mitsi Forums and have a good read about any issues actual owners are having with them before you buy.

Not that many search results and not that many complaints on either AMC or MCA.

Aeron · 04-11-2008, 03:54 PM

I could not live with that interior!! The dash is a shocker mate!! Dont do it!

robjh80 · 04-11-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_au

Not that many search results and not that many complaints on either AMC or MCA.

The first 4 pages of hits are about this very issue, take a read of this one

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f18835f/0