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It`s a great car and a peice of motoring history. | 54 | 44.63% | |
It`s just a EA S-pac with some badges and a signature. | 67 | 55.37% | |
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09-05-2007, 04:01 PM | #31 | ||
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Jayba, there are PLENTY of cars that are slow, unreliable etc and they are worth 100's of thousands. These are not prerequisites for something to increase in value.
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09-05-2007, 04:07 PM | #32 | |||
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and $3990..well what a fortune! the few hundred they may increase a year as an "investment" would bearly cover rego and running costs even if you dont drive the thing |
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09-05-2007, 04:09 PM | #33 | |||
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And a fair chunk of people couldn't give a rats about how quick or slow they are; its not the point.
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09-05-2007, 04:11 PM | #34 | |||
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09-05-2007, 04:17 PM | #35 | |||
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09-05-2007, 04:22 PM | #36 | ||
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OK guys, you've got me, I own a Brock Fairmont Ghia build number 071 of only 126 Falcon S and Fairmont Ghias ever built!
Brock also did Fairlanes and Mavericks along with a sprinkling of what he called Brock SEs (8 I believe) and a fewe Telstars and then a few more EP series Falcons (Executive Performance). These EP ones were to my knowledge not as good as the original 126 Brock Falcons/Fairmonts! Go to the dedicated website that I have set up with as much information as I can find at www.geocities.com/brock_fords and you will find out a lot more about these rare Brock vehicles. As for me, well they go like hell, handle better than many more recent models and in my opinion are better are very worthy vehicles even if now 17 years old! These cars are much much more than simply an EA Falcon as many mods were done to increase their output to 164kWs and many mods were also done to the suspension, aside from the nice body kit and the many interior changes also! Snap them up now while you still can afford them!!!!! Terry _2:
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09-05-2007, 04:41 PM | #37 | |||
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yeh we are getting no where, i posted my opinion and dont appreciate it when another TRY'S to poke fun at my intelligence especially when i present an educated opinion not a bias or sentimental one, If You dont wanna debate a subject then dont bother attacking my post or me personally |
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09-05-2007, 05:04 PM | #38 | |||
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09-05-2007, 05:12 PM | #39 | |||
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Where did I get sentimental? Lets make this real easy, I never talked about the performance of the car, just the fact that it will be worth something one day; and I never said when. So do you dispute the fact, that one day, its price will increase. Not to the level of a GT, but it certainly wont decrease. Have you seen ebay lately? $600 for a biante 1:18 thats got something to do with brock, and thats not even signed. Considering they are ~$200-300 to buy new thats a fair return.
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09-05-2007, 05:22 PM | #40 | |||
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"very intelligent post there" agree to disagree...poll results are speaking for themselves |
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09-05-2007, 05:59 PM | #41 | |||
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As for the Brock EA, I reckon they are a great car. With the subtle bodykit, nicer rims, and the performance updates, I'd definately choose one over an S-pack. You'd also have the bonus of driving a rarer car, rather than just another EA S-pack.
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09-05-2007, 08:16 PM | #42 | ||
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gotta agree with you there mate, mines done just over 250k, original motor still purrs along and is one of the best cars to drive on a long cruise.
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09-05-2007, 08:21 PM | #43 | ||
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Put it simply, some cars got badges and a few mods, others got the whole works done to them, if it doesnt have a badge/plate under the bonnet with a build number and twin cats coming off the extractors then it aint a fully worked brock and not really worth getting. Oh and if it doesnt have the original wheels then also forget as finding them is like hens teeth these days.
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09-05-2007, 08:52 PM | #44 | ||
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I AGREE ON THE WHEELS FOR THE BROCK EA. as they are not a replaceable item so only pay top dollar for one with the correct wheels, i missed buying one (s pac version) only a few weeks b4 brock died for $2500 and still regret being 10 mins too late on the phone (had to convince the wife first) as i regard these to be an excellent long term investment. To all the people who dont agree that they are worth keeping hold of just dont buy one, but dont complain when a car u could have bought 4 a few $$$$ turns out 2 be worth a lot more in the future. Opportunities like these dont happen everyday for the average punter these days so if you have the guts to chance it what have u got to lose.
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09-05-2007, 10:28 PM | #45 | ||
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Theres a dark blue EA brock Ghia here in shepp, it still has the original wheels, but has been kicked, scratched, dinted, driven through the bush and the like (point is, it looks shitty) Damn shame really.... I like them... And i believe the price will skyrocket for them, they are an exception to the "EA Stigma"
In reference to whoever said 3.9's were crap, My first car was an EA 'mont, and it survived a hell of a lot of hard kays and was on its second HG after 260,000k's...
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09-05-2007, 10:52 PM | #46 | ||
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Years ago I owned Peter Brock Special #31, dark blue in colour. It was based on "S" pack, 5 speed 3.9. Went really well, no quater mile bandit, had real tall gearing and was right at home on the open road, would easily cruise at the end of the speedo without any problems. Had bilstein suspension, twin system, extractors, good interior, racing seats. It was a great car, paobally would have kept it if it has 2 more cylinders....love my V8's. Cost me $25,000 when I bought it : I got Brocky to sign the sun visor on the drivers side. I think they are a good car and probally go up in value just from his name, although many people dont know what they are, "Brock falcon, your full of S@#T !"
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10-05-2007, 01:59 PM | #47 | |||
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Mmm, there's lots of passion in here. Quite simply if you like EA Falcons, the Brock version or a Faimont Ghia is probably the picks of the bunch.
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10-05-2007, 07:20 PM | #48 | ||
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i wasnt much of a fan before, but earlier in the year at a car show there was a 250rwkw EA Brock falcon, since then ive thought of them as a real icon.
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10-05-2007, 07:46 PM | #49 | ||
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I honestly dont think they are that special. Probably a more modern equivalent of a xr6. Better Suspension, touch better brakes and a lil bit more power.
However, I do think Brock did put his name on the EA for the wrong reasons, especially his falling out with HDT and the whole polariser saga (and lets face it- It might work in theory but a car doesnt need it) he got offered a chance for his name to still be in the "performance" sector of cars. Not a bad car for its time, but i dont see it being a collectable.
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10-05-2007, 08:21 PM | #50 | ||
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Never liked the look of them, espeacially the wheels.
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10-05-2007, 10:18 PM | #51 | ||
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hey tonkoxr8 that one in shepp was most probably the one i wanted to buy as it was a dark blue one and was in shepp and the guy on the phone told me the paint & panel was a little rough. this car was once owned by my brother in law (he was the second owner) and was immaculate when he had it. he really regrets letting it go now.
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11-05-2007, 12:10 AM | #52 | ||
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If i had the money I'd buy one for sure. Probably got Ford thinking and they created the XR's the next model.
I put the Brock B8 in the same category as AIT's, AVO's, SVO's, AJR's, TSS's, Sprints and GT's as the most desirable E-Series |
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11-05-2007, 07:30 AM | #53 | ||
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Isn't it weird that the EA, the "worst falcon ever" (wtf, surely its the XF) had so many genuine aftermarket specials. I cant think any other model that had so many; perhaps lack of V8 made this so but its interesting.
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11-05-2007, 11:48 AM | #54 | ||
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Come on Brock i mean WTF
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11-05-2007, 12:07 PM | #55 | |||
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11-05-2007, 12:13 PM | #56 | |||
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They kept selling the xf (complete with carby, rear drums and 3 on the tree) due to not having any compation in the segment,not becuase of how "relaible" they were.
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11-05-2007, 12:24 PM | #57 | ||
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Not that I'm specificly an ea lover,nor do I own one,but.
It seems to fine to come on here and bag the crap out of ea's as being unreliable,but mention an au being ugly (not that it's my opinion,I like them),and you'll get half the forum jumping up and down.I would say the au was of a more failure than the ea,it certainly hurt ford more financialy. It seems to be a double standard.
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11-05-2007, 12:38 PM | #58 | |||
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and poorly put together is a fact from a majority's experience with the EA each car has its faults but the EA had many.. Blowing head gaskets/overheating front suspension automatic transmissions made of glass bumpers that couldnt stay on longer than a year to name a few... Im a big fan of fords and hate to see a model that tarnishes the brand but to tell me the EA ws a good car is laughable |
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11-05-2007, 12:38 PM | #59 | |||
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11-05-2007, 01:19 PM | #60 | |||
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Where are these guys now?Wishing they could afford one. Thats where the ea brocks are heading IMHO,mabey not for a few years,but I think it's going to happen.
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