XR8 vs SSV including dyno test - Page 12

johnydep · 17-01-2015, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hootar

No offense but maybe it was just another ****box, under powered holden.

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No offence, but I think that the post of 701let went over your head.

bobwm · 17-01-2015, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 40RDT

Isn't that what the commodore is doing? Selling in good numbers thus providing a boost for local suppliers even with the 50% local content.

Wouldn't selling say 2500 commodores per month with 50% local content be better for local suppliers than selling say 500 falcons per month with 70% local content?

So that would likely mean that Ford is contributing to more suppliers (more unique parts being sourced locally)?

Perhaps overall Holden makes a larger contribution to the Australian economy (not that much of Australia cares enough to provide any support - government or voters alike) but if I worked at a supplier for one of the parts that Holden used to source locally but now sources overseas, but which Ford still buys locally, I'd care more that Ford buys the thing that I manufacture to make 500 cars a month than I would about the fact that Holden buys 3000 widgets from someone else.

Perspective

GTP534 · 17-01-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 701let

Maybe the guy in the SS had the tyre pressures set wrong, or he just didn't know how to drive the holden properly.. More racing needs to be done by different drivers at different tracks to be conclusive ....

I think I get this, at least I know about the lead up to it. Haha!

**kypez** · 17-01-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 701let

Maybe the guy in the SS had the tyre pressures set wrong, or he just didn't know how to drive the holden properly.. More racing needs to be done by different drivers at different tracks to be conclusive ....

Bahaha!

Have a go at me, but be a man about it and call me out. Weak as ****...

Twice in one thread. Weak Holden fanboi's...

Forgive me if I don't take for granted everything the media says about a falcon. It's not the first time they have an agenda against the Falcon. Wheels tests anyone? Funny the right person there changed the results by a huge margin.

So far 2 of the "tests" have been carried out by people contracted to Holden... You find it strange why I don't accept it as gospel?! And both auto's.

Bah!

1TUFFUTE · 17-01-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Bahaha!

Have a go at me, but be a man about it and call me out. Weak as ****...

Twice in one thread. Weak Holden fanboi's...

Forgive me if I don't take for granted everything the media says about a falcon. It's not the first time they have an agenda against the Falcon. Wheels tests anyone? Funny the right person there changed the results by a huge margin.

So far 2 of the "tests" have been carried out by people contracted to Holden... You find it strange why I don't accept it as gospel?! And both auto's.

Bah!

I understand your frustration 100%......but it's so much easier for the weak Holden fanboys to continually troll and ignore and deny history! The things that have gone on over the years astound me but too many have goldfish memories. Honestly I'm surprised there's any Holden fanboys left, with the current garbage lineup they serve Australians...bar some commadore/hsv variants! Must be a dying breed!

**kypez** · 17-01-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I understand your frustration 100%......but it's so much easier for the weak Holden fanboys to continually troll and ignore and deny history! The things that have gone on over the years astound me but too many have goldfish memories. Honestly I'm surprised there's any Holden fanboys left, with the current garbage lineup they serve Australians...bar some commadore/hsv variants! Must be a dying breed!

Exactly mate!

Ford drop the V8 with a more powerful 6, its all about V8's. Holden then make their best car using a Nissan motor, all Hail the "Holden" 6.

Ford make it about handling, the goal posts are moved and its all about HP...

Ford lift HP, wait, hold the press, its all about handling.

Ford steps up the interiors, its all about exterior...

Ford use more local content, Holden sells more cars so its better...

Its always something else...

701let · 17-01-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Bahaha!

Have a go at me, but be a man about it and call me out. Weak as ****...

Twice in one thread. Weak Holden fanboi's...

Forgive me if I don't take for granted everything the media says about a falcon. It's not the first time they have an agenda against the Falcon. Wheels tests anyone? Funny the right person there changed the results by a huge margin.

So far 2 of the "tests" have been carried out by people contracted to Holden... You find it strange why I don't accept it as gospel?! And both auto's.

Bah!

Mate take a joke and stop embarrassing yourself... Just taking the ****

Wasn't actually even specifically meaning to refer to you just the theme of the thread..

Lol not really sure how to 'man up' on an Internet forum? Draw keyboards at sunrise ?!

**kypez** · 17-01-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 701let

Mate take a joke and stop embarrassing yourself... Just taking the ****

Wasn't actually even specifically meaning to refer to you just the theme of the thread..

I beg to disagree...

People who think that tyre pressures and different tracks dont suit different cars are the ones that are embarrassing themselves by displaying their lack of knowledge for the world to see...

701let · 17-01-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kypez

I beg to disagree...

People who think that tyre pressures and different tracks dont suit different cars are the ones that are embarrassing themselves by displaying their lack of knowledge for the world to see...

Ok Mate. You win. You know all I salute you

**kypez** · 17-01-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 701let

Ok Mate. You win. You know all I salute you

About time...

duaned · 17-01-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kypez

About time...

He salutes you with the one finger. Well deserved!

**kypez** · 17-01-2015, 04:39 PM

wow... learn some wit... typifies a Holden owner really...

LoudPipes · 17-01-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 701let

Lol not really sure how to 'man up' on an Internet forum? Draw keyboards at sunrise ?!

Some of the posts are now starting to get downright sad.

b0son · 17-01-2015, 05:57 PM

**kypez** · 17-01-2015, 08:31 PM

Well, to the owners of the super fast SSV's in or around Sydney; 22nd of Feb is a super sprint round at Sydney motorsport park on the GP (V8's) circuit.

Happy to wager entry fee who is quicker.

CQB-241 · 17-01-2015, 09:24 PM

This thread has lost its' mojo.

Bent8 · 17-01-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duaned

He salutes you with the one finger. Well deserved!

Well deserved?... because he was pointing out facts??

Looks like someone needs a lesson in maturity...

How 'bout next time you feel like insulting others, try keeping it yourself !

Even though I'm a Ford man through and through, I still admitted the Redline was the better track day car from the factory.

Some people !!

**PepeLePew** · 17-01-2015, 10:24 PM

A few in this thread need to take their beefs to PM. Well the whole thread would be best off as a memory really.

DanielXR8 · 19-01-2015, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kypez

Exactly mate!

Ford drop the V8 with a more powerful 6, its all about V8's. Holden then make their best car using a Nissan motor, all Hail the "Holden" 6.

Ford make it about handling, the goal posts are moved and its all about HP...

Ford lift HP, wait, hold the press, its all about handling.

Ford steps up the interiors, its all about exterior...

Ford use more local content, Holden sells more cars so its better...

Its always something else...

Ford says its all about closing and then Holden says its closing.

**kypez** · 19-01-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielXR8

Ford says its all about closing and then Holden says its closing.

But more people hate on Ford over closing than Holden

Cashie · 19-01-2015, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kypez

But more people hate on Ford over closing than Holden

Most likely due to the fact that most people feel Ford did very little to market the Australian produced product to keep manufacturing going.
Whereas Holden as always actively marketed the Commodore, Ute, Monaro, Statesman etc..

**kypez** · 19-01-2015, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cashie

Most likely due to the fact that most people feel Ford did very little to market the Australian produced product to keep manufacturing going.
Whereas Holden as always actively marketed the Commodore, Ute, Monaro, Statesman etc..

To be fair though, thats only been in the recent past. If you talk about Monaro days, there was plenty of Ads for Falcon.

graphicgoose · 23-01-2015, 09:18 PM

Another comparison review.

http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-comp...22-12vv27.html

CQB-241 · 24-01-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by graphicgoose

Another comparison review.

http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-comp...22-12vv27.html

Another comparo between performance cars which focusses on interior refinement and finesse against grunt and soundtrack. Why buy a V8 at all if more concerned about these points than visceral grunt. With these criteria we should be buying plush interior cars with small engines......oh yeah, that's what we will be stuck with soon regardless of desire.

Can't wait for my XR8. Uncivilized Silhouette manual at that!

arronm · 24-01-2015, 12:21 AM

Drove my typhoon today. While my SS-V is nice , it doesn't offer the excitement of a fast car..

FordACE · 24-01-2015, 12:22 AM

how awesome does the xr8 sound on full song? I know it's been mentioned before but it's funny how no matter which way the benefits sway, power, handling or other niceties, wherever the Ford lacks, the Holden is always the "clear winner".

LoudPipes · 24-01-2015, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CQB-241

Another comparo between performance cars which focusses on interior refinement and finesse against grunt and soundtrack. Why buy a V8 at all if more concerned about these points than visceral grunt.

Yeah, take note all you foolish C63 owners.

CQB-241 · 24-01-2015, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LoudPipes

Yeah, take note all you foolish C63 owners.

Nothing foolish with C63....the ol' 6.2 goes like a scalded cat and sound like thunder when whipped. Somewhat different price-point though.

LoudPipes · 24-01-2015, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CQB-241

Nothing foolish with C63....the ol' 6.2 goes like a scalded cat and sound like thunder when whipped. Somewhat different price-point though.

With the twin turbo out soon it will take that scalded cat and raise it with a well aimed air rifle pellet to the testicles.

Definitely a different price range, I was just having a stir while pointing out some manufacturers can do interiors, finesse, grunt and soundtracks.

CQB-241 · 24-01-2015, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LoudPipes

With the twin turbo out soon it will take that scalded cat and raise it with a well aimed air rifle pellet to the testicles.

Definitely a different price range, I was just having a stir while pointing out some manufacturers can do interiors, finesse, grunt and soundtracks.

What else in Australia NEW offers the XR8 shove and soundtrack under (in my case anyway) the LCT (and business FBT) threshold in a 4 door? Being an Australian blue oval was a bonus. Is a step down from my '99 X308 XJR in the interior stakes but the grunt and manual availability makes up for that and I keep a V8 with blower in the soundtrack.