Major Ford announcement - Page 12

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Why does it need to be a sedan?
I don't see many falcons or commodores being used for towing, actually don't see that many with a tow bar. Most have moved to a more versatile 4wd, dual cab ute or even a Territory sized SUV.

Exactly.

How many FG sedans do you see down at the boat ramp? Zero...boaties roll in dual cabs or big 4wds these days.

The days of the 'big aussie six' being the car of choice to tow the family Millard down to the caravan park are long gone.

b0son · 23-05-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

If I were a Ford/Holden manufacturing worker I would have been looking to re skill/change job years ago.

If they didnt, I'd have to assume they were AFF members ... because I've seen more denial here than I ever did in Egypt.

Those of you angry at Ford... really? Its like being angry at the outcome of a game of russian roulette, it was always going to happen.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_au

I think it was probably more that they completely missed the shift to small/mid sized 4 cylinder cars (some of which incidently are now as large as 1990s commodores or falcons) or soft SUVs with more family flexibility.

The other issue is a lack of export deal.

Even with a world class product, no single model sells 80k+ per year anymore, and it could only survive if large numbers were also exported.

Holden did OK in that regard, Ford failed.

zipping · 23-05-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Davo

Yeah I just went outside to look at my FG. Feeling quite gutted at the moment.

Just came back from a drive. So sad.

Trump · 23-05-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadyFord

Just heard that Vic government will dump Ford as a fleet supplier after 2016.

Haven't they already done that, albeit unofficially?

**DJM83** · 23-05-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Mate I couldn't have put it better myself.... this is 100% spot on.
People's attitudes towards the local product and their insistence on purchasing imported vehicles sickens me to the core.
Australia has become nothing but a great big sell-out. Somebody build me a time machine so I can go back and live in the 1980's.

People buy what they want, I'm not going to buy something I don't want just to keep the the local branch in operation. I can purchase an imported Ford if I choose to simple as that.
For what I wanted there is NOTHING local.

Still it's a sad day for ford and the falcon I owned a few of em over the years.
I'm as big a ford fan as any on aswell I can assure you.

RPO83 · 23-05-2013, 01:25 PM

I haven't been on here in years until recently waiting for the inevitable, its been really hard sitting on this news for so long. Sad day indeed but ultimately it was the right move.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

If they didnt, I'd have to assume they were AFF members ... because I've seen more denial here than I ever did in Egypt.

Those of you angry at Ford... really? Its like being angry at the outcome of a game of russian roulette, it was always going to happen.

Look it's a sad day. Even though it was inevitable, it's always sad to have that final confirmation.

But that said some of the comments in here have been laughable at best. People swearing to never buy another Ford, blaming the government, blaming the public for buying imports...

A friend of mine has even suggested the Govt should kick a number of brands out of Australia in order to artificially increase demand for Falcon and Commodore.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

People buy what they want, I'm not going to buy something I don't want just to keep the the local branch in operation. I can purchase an imported Ford if I choose to simple as that.
For what I wanted there is NOTHING local.

Take note people.

This is how 99% of the public view car purchases.

My daily drive is a 2005 WRX I purchased new. Please show me what local product options I had.

zipping · 23-05-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

The other issue is a lack of export deal.

Even with a world class product, no single model sells 80k+ per year anymore, and it could only survive if large numbers were also exported.

Holden did OK in that regard, Ford failed.

There always 1 know it all. Tell us again how Ford developed the F6X and it was a mistake.

in_xcess · 23-05-2013, 01:27 PM

Now the doomsdayers were right (with much 'I told you so's to come), the deniers look foolish (and will continue to deny its really happening)... and everyone's an expert as to why!

I'm gunna start saving for a 2016 Falcon - it'll be quite a historical car.

The king is dead... long live the king.

buddy92 · 23-05-2013, 01:27 PM

Sad news. Good idea to not trade in my FG now then.

:'(

Alan D Segal · 23-05-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sprint347dave

didnt think i could love my XR8 Sprint anymore than i did,,but after todays news i love it even more

I agree. Loving my Aussie ford even more now. Look after them because they won't make 'em like that anymore.

Psi-Pop · 23-05-2013, 01:27 PM

While I'm shattered with the news of the Ford Aus shutting down production of locally built models I do believe in Ford Global success. If you were in FordAus shoes, why would you be spending so much to make a car that has such a very small market share in a country with 20something million people. You wouldn't. Ford is a company that goes out to make money, its not there to provide you with some form of romantic ideal of motoring. They make dollars.

I love the Ford Motor company, and if this is what needs to happen to ensure the company as a whole stays viable then so be it.

Ill always have a Falcon, Ill always have Fords no matter where they are made its just a shame that we wont have such a car as the Falcon with what will be Australia greatest engine. The mighty 4 Litre.

Now Im off to have a beer down the shed with the cars and celebrate the Falcon, its not time to mourn just yet.

D Block · 23-05-2013, 01:28 PM

Getting very annoyed with media today....constantly going on about assistance to Ford from Federal govt. So what! !!!
Supporting local content & products is the right of a sovereign country and the largely silent public expect that from their represenatives.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zipping

There always 1 know it all. Tell us again how Ford developed the F6X and it was a mistake.

Common sense, that's all.

Does Ford still have a 'serious performance' Territory? If not, the concept failed obviously.

stang65 · 23-05-2013, 01:30 PM

Good... I don`t give a ****, I was proud to drive an Australian made Ford and now they can shove it. They want my business they can make it here. I won`t even consider an import Ford replacement. They have not only taken the Falcon ,They have taken our heritage that they abandoned over 30 years ago.

superfly · 23-05-2013, 01:30 PM

This is pretty sad for all the workers. I really like my FG, it's my first Ford. But when the time comes to buy another car, I'll see what's around that I like and suits my needs. It definitely won't be a Holden though.

flappist · 23-05-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJL351

PLEASE!

It is a drip fed fad car for idiot hipsters with little to no clue.
Go order one - let me know when you'll see it.

As for your other comment about all the Mazda 3s, Honda crap boxes etc:

I'm 6 foot 8, 150KG with a 3 year old child.
We like to travel around the state, tow a 18 footer tinny around from time to time..... Name a sedan other than the red and blue that will fit my needs. ????

Toyota Aurion
Nissan Maxima
Mazda 6
Hyundai i40

All can tow over 1000kg and all have a 300++ Nm option.

There are probably a lot more if you actually went and looked for them....

stevz · 23-05-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadyFord

Just heard that Vic government will dump Ford as a fleet supplier after 2016.

And rightly so.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:31 PM

I must be missing something here.

Is there some law that states we MUST product cars in Australia regardless of the cost?

Perhaps we should prop up an artificial wool industry too. How about we manufacture steam trains?

Industries come and go. Australia is now a service-based country and manufacturing has moved to other more viable countries. Instead of whinging that the party is over, how about being thankful that it was such a fantastic part of our history over the past 80 years or so?

Deal with it.

sbcb · 23-05-2013, 01:32 PM

Sorry for the employees. Cheered Falcons on when racing, owned 9 of them. Love the car and am thankful for the fun they have given me and will continue to give me. The XR8 will get a polish this weekend.

Mighty Reds · 23-05-2013, 01:36 PM

I feel like punching any pollie in the face who uses today to get political mileage.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stang65

Go bury yourself do us all a favour.

It's better to have someone think you're stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Disagree with me all you like, but comments like that are pathetic.

MickyB · 23-05-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

I must be missing something here.

Is there some law that states we MUST product cars in Australia regardless of the cost?

Perhaps we should prop up an artificial wool industry too. How about we manufacture steam trains?

Industries come and go. Australia is now a service-based country and manufacturing has moved to other more viable countries. Instead of whinging that the party is over, how about being thankful that it was such a fantastic part of our history over the past 80 years or so?

Deal with it.

You're surprised that a site that is made up of predominately Falcon lovers is collectively upset that the Falcon is to be no longer?
Maybe you should find another forum where your opinions would be more appreciated.

Kable72 · 23-05-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

It's better to have someone think you're stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Disagree with me all you like, but comments like that are pathetic.

Comments like your own are doing nothing but aggravating already upset forum members. You're a disgrace, mate.

96falcon2 · 23-05-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sbcb

The XR8 will get a polish this weekend.

+1 for my BF2 XR8

Sprint · 23-05-2013, 01:39 PM

Will GM go with them?

Whats to happen to the spare part industry?(can see anyone doing up a Kia lol)

V8 supercars without red or blue! wtf!!

I blame Julia Gillard and her mob for wasting money when Australia needs to be more than a retirement/tourist/3rd world sanctuary nation.

D Block · 23-05-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

I must be missing something here.

Is there some law that states we MUST product cars in Australia regardless of the cost?

Perhaps we should prop up an artificial wool industry too. How about we manufacture steam trains?

Industries come and go. Australia is now a service-based country and manufacturing has moved to other more viable countries. Instead of whinging that the party is over, how about being thankful that it was such a fantastic part of our history over the past 80 years or so?

Deal with it.

What are we going to do when the dollar drops and the $30k Mustang costs $60k or the $19k Golf with the dodgy gearbox and engine costs $50k and we have signed long term supply contracts for minerals at give away prices. The world changes for sure and not always for the best. Long term we need to keep the skills in Australia for the future for our children, for our defence industries, for our repair industries, etc ..etc. If all we want for our kids is to be baristas and burger makers it is very sad. The PM said as much today,,,pity she finally got it too late though.

Whitey-AMG · 23-05-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by in_xcess

I'm gunna start saving for a 2016 Falcon - it'll be quite a historical car.

Not meaning to be sarcastic here or add salt to the wound - far from it - but what kinda quality do you honestly think these poor workers are likely to be screwing together over the next coupls of years...........quality and enthusiasm are likely to be last on the list for the next Falc..........hope I'm wrong.