Fastest P-Plate Legal Car

sleekism · 10-09-2007, 03:23 PM

I don't know how it is in other states but I just fell under the stupid no V8's, Turbo and Engine Modification rules.

Therefore I had to give up my dream of a XT Fairmont 302 Windsor which did 0-100 in over 10 seconds for the non performance Fairmont which will do a much safer 0-100 in mid sevens (with my new exhaust)

My question is what is the fastest p-plate legal cars cutting around excluding ridiculous things such as 80 grand Alfas. I have seen a lot of crappy Lancers cutting around and the new laws have just made the VL epidemic even worse but I have seen a lot of p platers in XR6's and I'm pretty sure manual V6 VN's go pretty hard.

So for the p plater bogan out there what is the top dog performace car? I'm thinking if you can pick up a Valiant Pacer pretty cheap your set.

Off topic: Mate just picked up a V8 Perkins Commodore and he reckons it puts out 180rwkw. I reckon he's full of shite as a stroked Holden V8 goes nowhere near that anybody know anything about it?

eXi7w0unD · 10-09-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

but I just fell under the stupid no V8's, Turbo and Engine Modification rules.

its not stupid.. its their cus u young 1's keep stuffing up.

instead of getting the fastest p plate legal car. get a nice car with leather and pimp it out. 20's, lowered, zorst. get more chicks and more notice rather then a "fast" car.

thats my opinion. prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

Mongoose · 10-09-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eXi7w0unD

prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

Your less likely to get pulled over if you dont have P plates on at all

fmc351 · 10-09-2007, 03:47 PM

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....

DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.

Sorry, I couldnt help myself, you kids are funny. Now get off my lawn

BeStRaFe · 10-09-2007, 03:51 PM

people think p-platers are targets.
MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE BECAUSE OF THEY WAY THEY ACT.

i was a p-plater for 3.5 years.

in that time i was pulled over a total of 4 times.

1. rbt L-plates, XF Falc
2. mobile phone offense (el falc)
3. speeding offence (el falc)
4. rbt - i was a little nippy at cornering in a quite surburban area (ba falc)

whist i was driving a skyline for 12 months, never pulled over.
its only when you have done something obvious (big exhaust ect) and you just look guilty!!!!

get a nice quick z-tech focus or HO 6cyl probably the most power you will get within p's

Ives · 10-09-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fmc351

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....

DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.

Sorry, I couldnt help myself, you kids are funny. Now get off my lawn

GOLD.

Walkinshaw · 10-09-2007, 03:54 PM

E49

irlewy86 · 10-09-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eXi7w0unD

its not stupid.. its their cus u young 1's keep stuffing up.

instead of getting the fastest p plate legal car. get a nice car with leather and pimp it out. 20's, lowered, zorst. get more chicks and more notice rather then a "fast" car.

thats my opinion. prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

Even better idea by a S***box laser. Insure it, bang around for 3 years improving your insurance rating saving big dollars. Then when your off your P's you'll have 3 things
1) A decent insurance rating that will save you big dollars when you can handle a performance car
2) A clean license which goes such a long way
3) A large savings account to buy something a lot better than a VL

TZENU · 10-09-2007, 03:59 PM

What are those little VTECH's like nowadays??

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Really depends what price range you are looking at..

Ruger · 10-09-2007, 03:59 PM

fun p plate car e30 325i
1200kg, near perfect weight distribution and 170hp of inline 6 that you can mod to high heavens. 0-100 in 7.4 and light rwd goodness. Engine conversions? pretty much anything from the bmw catalogue.

RavenLS1 · 10-09-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

fun p plate car e30 325i
1200kg, near perfect weight distribution and 170hp of inline 6 that you can mod to high heavens. 0-100 in 7.4 and light rwd goodness. Engine conversions? pretty much anything from the bmw catalogue.

these cars hammer

manny_papa · 10-09-2007, 04:19 PM

integra type r

TEaaron · 10-09-2007, 04:48 PM

Honda S2000 I'd say.

fmc351 · 10-09-2007, 04:58 PM

a crotch rocket.

yeah i know, its not a car

philstoj · 10-09-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

Even better idea by a S***box laser. Insure it, bang around for 3 years improving your insurance rating saving big dollars. Then when your off your P's you'll have 3 things
1) A decent insurance rating that will save you big dollars when you can handle a performance car
2) A clean license which goes such a long way
3) A large savings account to buy something a lot better than a VL

Best advice your going to get on here...

apolloxbgt · 10-09-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

fun p plate car e30 325i
1200kg, near perfect weight distribution and 170hp of inline 6 that you can mod to high heavens. 0-100 in 7.4 and light rwd goodness. Engine conversions? pretty much anything from the bmw catalogue.

No engine mods are allowed under the new p plate laws.

XR-ENVI · 10-09-2007, 05:04 PM

It is a bit harsh that just becuase its a V8 you cant drive it, especially since as you metnioned, todays V6's are more powerful than the XT V8 you wanted to drive.

bentles · 10-09-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TEaaron

Honda S2000 I'd say.

falls under the hipo category even tho it aint turbo supercharged or v8

bentles · 10-09-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XR-ENVI

It is a bit harsh that just becuase its a V8 you cant drive it, especially since as you metnioned, todays V6's are more powerful than the XT V8 you wanted to drive.

especially considering a my00 wrx was able to be driven under the old vic system (125kw/tonne) when u get it re-weighed with full tank of petrol. but a ba xr8 is nowhere near the restriction limits and is way over it. the ba would need to have weighed 2.08 tonnes and a gt would have to weigh 2320kg for it to fit under the restrictions, and the wrx makes tidy work of a stocko xr8 4sp auto

||| · 10-09-2007, 05:07 PM

somethingt korean

TEaaron · 10-09-2007, 05:25 PM

Me personaly am ignoring the new P plate laws.

Well not completly.

I was going to drop a v8 in my XD but instead of bought a cortina and am building a wild 250 for it but keeping the motor looking stock.

The law says "no engine enhancing modifications"
So the fact that I got an exhaust system can be argued since it's an exhaust modification not an engine mod the car will still run without an exhaust

That's if I ever get pulled over and hassled though.

It's too unlike me to drive some pos car around for 3 years.

I reckon the new laws are stupid though there's too many holes in them they should've kept the power to weight restriction or better yet some driver training!

Cars don't kill people, People kill people.

You take one of these media claimed "v8 hoons" and put him in a 1.6L laser he's still going to be a hoon just in a less powerful car.

Falc'man · 10-09-2007, 05:33 PM

Sleekism, why would you wanna go any faster when you're already pulling 13.000@200mph in your AU Ghia???
http://www.fordforums.com.au/member....s&userid=31866

sleekism · 10-09-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Falc'man

Sleekism, why would you wanna go any faster when you're already pulling 13.000@200mph in your AU Ghia???
http://www.fordforums.com.au/member....s&userid=31866

My god yeullah shes like fully freak car with fully sick zorst n rips 13 flat.

Nah seriously it doesn't let you enter 15+ times so I put whatever crap in lol

Ryan · 10-09-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XR-ENVI

It is a bit harsh that just becuase its a V8 you cant drive it, especially since as you metnioned, todays V6's are more powerful than the XT V8 you wanted to drive.

Yeah it makes no sense really.

I mean I know my VL 5 Speed isn't a lighting fast car, but it's still faster then a old 253 Commodore, but the 253 is banned.

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I think they (The government) really need to get their heads around "It's a V8, so it's going to be automatically Ferrari material". As said a number of times before, a modern 6, hell even most N/A 4s would dust these old beasts, yet they're perfectly legal.

GTWHOA · 10-09-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fmc351

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....

DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.

Sorry, I couldnt help myself, you kids are funny. Now get off my lawn

WTF?

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i'd be looking at xr6 falcons. A manual AU or EL or a BA if you can afford one. This is going to be faster then most cars in this class.

I've noticed a few non-turbo imports like supras and skylines the falcon would own these.

Ridin-High · 10-09-2007, 06:09 PM

3.8L Commie with the Come racing 4.2L stroker kit

tapeworm · 10-09-2007, 06:14 PM

Yes, 5 speed ef/l or BA go like the clappers for what they are. Go 5 speed like I did with the full Mock kit, eats V8 VN manuals and WRX for breaky, but pulls no attention if the car looks stock and the engine looks stock apart from the Xtractors.

fmc351 · 10-09-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BFwagon

WTF?

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Gnat?

joe260 · 10-09-2007, 06:18 PM

ba are alright lol, im still on my p's, have been on them for almost 5 yrs.

Used to always get pulled over in my other commodores (vl and vn) but as soon as i got the ba ute.... only 3 times, one was for speeding the other werent though. I just keep the company magnets on the side and they dont bother me lol

Steffo · 10-09-2007, 06:21 PM

Renaultsport Clio 172. With ease.

1035kg, 124kW @ 6250rpm, 200Nm @ 5400rpm 2.0L 4-cyl, 7250rpm redline, five-speed manual. 0-100km/h in 6.5 sec, capable of a 14.7-14.9 sec 1/4 with a better driver, average in the 15.0-15.2 range. Tops out at 220. And handles like its on rails. For under 20k.

Unbeatable in general for the money, but especially for NSW P-Platers.

And I just found a wildly low km cheap example...

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars..._id=80&trecs=4

Being an 03, that one would have ESP (Electronic Stability Program). Top buy for 17.6k.

**BTW** The above times are tested by overseas publications. From experience the car is faster then any EB to AUIII XR8, VX SS, Honda S2000, any FWD Type R Honda including the sissy new Civic, hoses the ****y Corolla Sportivo, EB/EL GT's, any VN-VT SS etc, S14 & S15 200SX, any pre-03 (168kW) WRX etc. Has the same power-to-weight ratio as the old Rover engine powered Lotus Elise.