Dont drive to close to this guy LOL

[crossingover]

A MAN who dragged a 68-year-old out of his car before repeatedly punching and kicking him in a fit of road rage has been allowed to keep driving, pending an appeal.

Mark James, 47, of Melbourne, was yesterday stripped of his licence for six months, but immediately lodged an appeal and had the licence handed back pending the County Court hearing.

James also received a 50-hour community service order after claiming a wrist injury sustained before the bashing would prevent him carrying out too much physical work.

Frankston Magistrates' Court heard that James lost his temper and set upon Ronald Mentiplay because he was driving too close.

Mr Mentiplay – who suffers a degenerative bone disorder – was left bruised and battered after James punched and kicked him to the head and body as he lay helplessly on the road.

Mr Mentiplay said in his victim impact statement tendered to the court yesterday that he believed it was imperative James attend an anger management course.

James pleaded guilty to five charges including recklessly causing injury, assault by kicking and unlawful assault.

He appeared in court two weeks ago and was assessed for a community based order.

After viewing a doctor's certificate, magistrate Kim Parkinson queried how James could still assault Mr Mentiplay despite wrist injuries.

James' lawyer, David Tonkin, said his client assaulted Mr Mentiplay in the heat of the moment.

Ms Parkinson said she took into account the victim's recommendation and ordered James to complete an anger management course.

She convicted James, placed him on a 12-month community based order and ordered he perform 50 hours of unpaid community work.

She also cancelled James' licence for six months but granted him permission to drive pending a County Court appeal against his sentence.

[gozza]

Whats the point in anything these days

The criminals get rights and the victims get slapped in the face

It happens all the time....Ive had family memebers at the recieving end of Identity Fraud....Physical Abuse....A whole heap of nastiness and system is reluctant to do anything....These issues have long passed but the sytem is retarded

my mate got hand cuffed and sent to the lock up for the night becuase he was picking up a branch that another person had snapped off a tree in the valley..
hes going to court becuase he picked up a tree branch

[GXL078]

That's weak, lock him up. But not a weak as the neighbour of my wife's friend. He came at the friend (who is 8 months pregnant) with TWO knives in a dispute over a parking space. And she told the cops not to worry!!

[crossingover]

I just cant believe the tools still got his licence pending an appeal ? THE SYSTEM SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LTDHO]

Why isn't Mark james put into a room and punched and kicked to the ground?
The court system is pathetic.
If I had seen this poor old bloke beaten by a road rager, I would have stepped in for the front of my car!
It's people like Mr James that cause problems on the roads.

[Kryton]

he pleaded guilty and then appealed the sentence......WTF.

[pecker73]

Originally Posted by davway

he pleaded guilty and then appealed the sentence......WTF.

He's from Frankston. Enough Said !

[robjh80]

"I do hope I meet this Mr. James on the road when I'm out and about"...... :evil3:

[LTD Ute]

Originally Posted by robjh80

"I do hope I meet this Mr. James on the road when I'm out and about"...... :evil3:

Yes, a little dose of "Proactive Karma" will keep things in balance!

[bob 351]

Originally Posted by pecker73

He's from Frankston. Enough Said !

except he's probaly got two heads and wears moccasins

[T_Terror]

I dont see what the problem is?

he pleaded guilty to 5 serious assault charges, true he'll probably get a community based order and wont think twice of it but thats a matter for the courts.
I dont see what does his driving licence have to do with his offence?

He happened to be driving when he got angry so he should loose his licence? By that logic people who get done with possesion would lose their licence too even though it has nothing to with the actual offence. Think people.

[klawsterfobik]

if he got angry about someone following too closely while driving in his car, of course he should be off the road. He obviously doesn't have the mental state to be driving.

[nobbystang]

Originally Posted by T_Terror

I dont see what the problem is?

he pleaded guilty to 5 serious assault charges, true he'll probably get a community based order and wont think twice of it but thats a matter for the courts.
I dont see what does his driving licence have to do with his offence?

He happened to be driving when he got angry so he should loose his licence? By that logic people who get done with possesion would lose their licence too even though it has nothing to with the actual offence. Think people.

I guess you answered your own question but like this tool are too stupid to see it. Road rage is a serious crime that should be treated harshly. If you think its fine to physically attack an elderly defenceless person just because you don't approve of his driving then you shouldn't have the right to drive at all. The court was way too soft on this fool.

[peyote]

freakston : is really a nice place to live...... NOT
try working there in a retail discount store im starting to get a nervous tick after 2 mths there

on another note i hope the county court give the maggot 2 yrs for beating that old fella and appealing wasting there time

[T_Terror]

Originally Posted by nobbystang

I guess you answered your own question but like this tool are too stupid to see it. Road rage is a serious crime that should be treated harshly. If you think its fine to physically attack an elderly defenceless person just because you don't approve of his driving then you shouldn't have the right to drive at all. The court was way too soft on this fool.

No youre too stupid to look past your own outrage and actually read whats in front of you.

I think assault is a very serious crime and as i mentioned before, the guy is on 5 charges so he will definitely be punished.
I made the point that i dont think the punishment is enough for most assault offences which you obviously missed!


Once again, attacking another driver has nothing to do with his licence unless he used the car as a weapon.

Build a bridge or go back to A Current Affair.

[OLDFORDNUT]

lol yeah it might backfire as the County court will see it as a pathetic sentence and go real hard on him.
now that would be funny ,
hahaha

[OLDFORDNUT]

Originally Posted by T_Terror

No youre too stupid to look past your own outrage and actually read whats in front of you.

I think assault is a very serious crime and as i mentioned before, the guy is on 5 charges so he will definitely be punished.
I made the point that i dont think the punishment is enough for most assault offences which you obviously missed!


Once again, attacking another driver has nothing to do with his licence unless he used the car as a weapon.

Build a bridge or go back to A Current Affair.

You cant be serious.
it's not called Road Rage for nothing

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by crossingover

he believed it was imperative James attend an anger management course.

10yr licence ban and 2yrs in the slammer would be a far better alternative

[T_Terror]

Originally Posted by nicholas

You cant be serious.
it's not called Road Rage for nothing

I am.

hey ive got an open mind, if you can link me between the two then i will eat my hat.


PS. i wear no hat

[oneredED]

You cant be serious.
it's not called Road Rage for nothing

Yeah, and video games are blamed for kids shooting up schools in the US. Assault like this is assault regardless of there being a vehicle involved. If the person was insane enough to assualt a 68 year old man, then he obviously is psychologically challenged regardless of vehicle or not, and needs serious anger management and counselling. He should be jailed, WGAF about his licence.

[nobbystang]

Originally Posted by T_Terror

Once again, attacking another driver has nothing to do with his licence unless he used the car as a weapon.

Build a bridge or go back to A Current Affair.

My point is that as a holder of a drivers license, you have certain obligations to meet. One of those is not to physically assault other road users just because you don't like their driving.

There is no excuse for what this person did and with some of the most recent crimes where peopl have used cars in road rage, I would rather this guy loses his license now with the hope that next time he might think about what he's doing and take a chill pill, or build a bridge as you so well put it.

[oneredED]

My point is that as a holder of a drivers license, you have certain obligations to meet. One of those is not to physically assault other road users just because you don't like their driving.

Yes, just as you do as a citizen of this country. For example you can't assault other pedestrians because you don't like their clothes.

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by peyote

freakston : is really a nice place to live...... NOT
try working there in a retail discount store im starting to get a nervous tick after 2 mths there

on another note i hope the county court give the maggot 2 yrs for beating that old fella and appealing wasting there time

I actually paid $90 to stay in a motel in Frankston when I didn't know what it was. I walked out to the end of the jetty and watched the sun set. It was nice and I made it back to my car alive. I even ate at Food Star and survived. Then I watched Forensic Investigators one night and realised just how lucky I had been.

[jonbays]

from the "pines" i'll bet just out of Frankston

[Rollin]

I'm with T_Terror - if James was walking down the street and didnt like how close someone was walking to him, and beat them to the ground, should he still loose his licence?

Of course not, so there is no difference between getting out of the car and flogging someone or just turning around on the footpath and flogging someone. If James had used the car as a weapon and purposely run into another road user, then go for gold, cancel his licence and I'll agree with it.

And though I'm sure in this particular case the flogging was undeserved, there are MANY MANY drivers out there who drive in such a way as to DESERVE a flogging - I started a thread in the pub a few months back about it and there were heaps of people agreeing and saying "yeah, some people should be bashed for poor driving" etc etc...IMHO a little well placed road rage would work a lot better than a fine and demerit points with regards to improving the general standard of driving on our roads _2:

[Psi-Pop]

My vote goes to a this dude being a Piner! Quality of drivers and the following road rage around Frankston and Dandenong is a laugh at first then it just gets plain ol scary.

[Kryton]

should his license be taken away? YES.
no license = you cant get ****ed off because people are driving too slow in front of you.
being angry and bashing people because they are driving to slow in front of you is a direct offense against your license.
in theory, according to a few in this thread, if i am a licensed firearm owner and i choose to go shoot someone because they shit me, i should be able to keep my firearms and my firearm license?
its the same thing WAKE UP.

[kyro_02]

yeah but the guy didn't use his car on the old guy(running over him or anything), where using a firearm with a firearms' license & shooting another person, you should lose your firearms license, of course. along with charges

if someone walking down a street hits another person over the head, he shouldn't lose his car license.

i think the guy needs to go to angre management ;)

[xurbanx]

T_Terror does have a point. The damage done was related to assault, not a car-related damage (ie. running him over).

Though, the sentence is a bit light.

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by davway

should his license be taken away? YES.
no license = you cant get ****ed off because people are driving too slow in front of you.
being angry and bashing people because they are driving to slow in front of you is a direct offense against your license.
in theory, according to a few in this thread, if i am a licensed firearm owner and i choose to go shoot someone because they shit me, i should be able to keep my firearms and my firearm license?
its the same thing WAKE UP.

Wasn't he ****ed off because the old guy was following too closely? Taking their liscence just saves them money because they will still drive and don't bother registering the car either.