Boy stabbed in schoolyard

[buggerlugs]

http://www.news.com.au/national/boy-...-1225830429705

pretty sad day when this sort of stuff is happening in our schools.........

[Falcon Coupe]

Thread split as this is a different topic.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Thread split as this is a different topic.

I watched this unfolding as I was at work today, I was putting something together in response to another thread, re private/ public education.
This tradgedy has nothing to do with the pros or cons of either; whatever caused this, or whatever the charachter of the children involved, my heart goes out to the people having to come to terms with this tonight.
I have one question to ask, "Where are we going"?

[chrisfpv]

Just saw this on the news tonight, jesus christ.

[TUF_302]

Im glad i dont go to school anymore, it seems like a very frightening place these days!

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by TUF_302

Im glad i dont go to school anymore, it seems like a very frightening place these days!

Problem is, a lot of our kids do. Don't really think though that it is a problem particularly unique to school kids.

[braddyxe51]

A friend of mine, his wife was attacked in class by one of her 10 year old students with a stick couple years back.
I know its a little different with 2 student attacking each other but teachers cant fight back without bad consequenss to the teacher.

[Gaz]

Originally Posted by braddyxe51

A friend of mine, his wife was attacked in class by one of her 10 year old students with a stick couple years back.
I know its a little different with 2 student attacking each other but teachers cant fight back without bad consequenss to the teacher.

I considered teaching, but decided I wouldn't be that great because I would have the kid on his **** before he knew what hit him then promptly find myself unemployed.

[braddyxe51]

Never know the stabber could have been victom of constant teasing and just had enough cos teachers, perants, school board wouldnt do anything about it.
I cant say I wasnt there, just an idea.

[dsyfer]

I have an 11 year old son, and it is beyond my comprehension that this incident involved a 12 & 13 year old. Absolutely tragic for all involved. Schools need to include classes on respect for others and accountability.

[braddyxe51]

Woman was stubbed out scholl in Sydnen today as well.
Seems the parents need to learn respect too.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225830599928

[RG]

This has to be one of the most shocking and sad stories I've heard in a while.

Kids killing kids.

[BIGJB]

......... lost for words.

[braddyxe51]

Lucky we have such strong gun laws or could have been a massicare.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Gaz

I considered teaching, but decided I wouldn't be that great because I would have the kid on his **** before he knew what hit him then promptly find myself unemployed.

And boy do you get close... ohhh so many times. I'm glad I teach primary, dealing with 'children' who are almost adults is something I do not want to do, especially the way things are going in general with some of the more unsavoury youngins in the community.

I wonder what was the precursor to such a tragic end to a young life?

But it doesn't take long for this kind of thing to happen. I have broken up dozens of fights while on duty. In recent years kids are getting more brazen, more 'adult like' in their thinking and behaviour..

Just last week I had to restrain a yr6 kid from beating up another chap, why? Because he may or may not have 'said something' against him. He had such rage, so wild that his eyes could not focus on me when I was talking to him. My bear hug to restrain him was so strong that I was scared I would break a bone if he didn't stop trying to break free and get the other guy... I could not type what he said during this ordeal...

Had he a weapon, he would have used it, no question about it... and all on my watch. What would the media have said? I may as well kiss my career goodbye should this ever happen.

The teacher that would have first attended to this poor dying child must be a wreck... One of the teachers greatest fears is losing a child while in their supervision.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by braddyxe51

Lucky we have such strong gun laws or could have been a massicare.

Interesting observation....................

This incident was a planned fight, these lads decided on a fight between themselves before school today - unfortunately one came armed up.

[Peuty]

13yo ha been charged with murder apparently. As for people saying he could have been a victim of bullying himself, whatever happened to having a punch up after school?

No kid deserves to die, regardless of how much bullying he may give.

[kezzer]

Maybe we should introduce tougher laws to deal with this behaviour? Call it 'FOON' laws, any kids found to have stabbed another will have the knife impounded for 48 hours.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by kezzer

Maybe we should introduce tougher laws to deal with this behaviour? Call it 'FOON' laws, any kids found to have stabbed another will have the knife impounded for 48 hours.

?????????
Is this an answer to the problem or a very ill timed attempt at humour

[kezzer]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

?????????
Is this an answer to the problem or a very ill timed attempt at humour

Niether, just taking the ******** outta the government.

It's pretty extreme, stabbing in general, my mate was stabbed at a house party in narre warren, was on the news to. It's getting worse, you hear about it all the week in melbourne, especially on saturday nights. It's sad.

[XR_6falcon]

Happend when i was at high school too, someone came into the school to beat up another kid. The one from my school ended up pulling out a knife and stabbing the other chap who came to fight him. Was on the news at the time and this wasnt too long ago either. Kids these days are too willing to pull a knife/gun on eachother and dont really care what happens next. I remeber when I was in school many of my class mates used to bring knifes to school "just in case". I dont know what the solution to the problem is but it is getting pretty bad somthing has to be done.

[braddyxe51]

A kid bought a spike ball n chain to primary school that was in the 80s. He would have been 10 or 11.

There was tif going on in year 10 between an asain and couple of aussie kids. One day there was 4 car loads of asains rock up when school finished loaded up with swords and bats. Enough to scare one guy to catch a different bus, but followed the bus he was ment to be on for awhile

[Jorgo85]

Condolences to his family. I've got 2 little boys, the eldest one is only 2 mind you, but I'm dreading what the schools are going to be like by the time they go. There doesn't seem to be a great deal of value to human life these days.

[BA-Fan]

The real question is, why are parents allowing their kids to behave the way they do?

[braddyxe51]

worried that there kids will sue for disiplining there own kids.
Not enough of the wooden spooning anymore.
Mum and I were talking about it the other day. She said always felt bad. I said well looked at it this way, Im not in jail or been into trouble with police for BnEs, stolen cars or anything really crimanil.
I know a lot wont agree with what I just said. Thats just the way it was when I was a kid.

[Antwon]

Originally Posted by SM0KED

The real question is, why are parents allowing their kids to behave the way they do?

Because the parents dont know what their kids are up to when their at school.

[F6T]

Imagine sending your kid boy off to school for the day, to a private school, and something like this happened to him. Bloody sad day.

[BA-Fan]

Originally Posted by Antwon

Because the parents dont know what their kids are up to when their at school.

I find it hard to beleive, that schools 'as well as' parents would wash their hands so easily of their duty of care and responsibility.

[Fled74]

Originally Posted by Peuty

No kid deserves to die, regardless of how much bullying he may give.

20 years ago when I was 14-15, the bullying I endured was so bad I was THIS close to taking my dad's .38 to school with me. Not to use, but to frighten. In my mind, the bullies certainly deserved it. Yes, I freely admit this, to show how messed-up I was back then because of bullying.
It's because of this that I feel so strongly for the victims of bullying.

And yes, in case you're wondering, my parents didn't shy away from corporal punishment, so "bringing back the wooden spoon" isn't a realistic solution to this problem.

Originally Posted by Peuty

As for people saying he could have been a victim of bullying himself, whatever happened to having a punch up after school?

I kicked a few asses and took a few names back then, but that didn't stop the bullying. Once the "pack mentality" takes hold of a group, and they set their sights on a victim, that victim often feels there's no way out, short of going apes**t.

[grandpa_spec_F6]

When I read that headline my heart skipped a beat as my ex-girlfriends brother goes there.

I have to say that there is a culture of bullying and aggression still strongly present within schooling systems and from what her brother has told me it was no different at St Pats.

I too find it hard to believe that people would immediately default to the "its not our problem" stance however at the end of the day no one wants to be even remotely connected to such a tragic incident as this.

My heart felt sadness goes out to that family, I sure as hell wouldn't know what to do if I lost one of my best mates, let alone one of my own... its something you cannot comprehend with words.

Edit: To qualify my comments, I was bullied at school for being a fat kid who didn't play sport and tinkered with computers all day, none of the girls wanted to know me more than a 'friend'. It got to the point where a certain group of individuals targeted me, stealing my wallet, trying to fight me at bus stops etc etc. I eventually moved schools it got so bad. I thought about nasty ways to get them back but my dear mother told me I'd be a success in the long run compared to them... she was right

Now I'm 6' 4" with a slim but solid build, work in IT for the government and have no trouble attracting female attention :P (im a cheeky bugger eh?) Kids just don't realise there is a whole world out there just waiting for them.