Common misconceptions

[89.SVO]

Originally Posted by Riksta

I was under the misconception that MC Hammer was on these forums when I saw you could turn his most famous lyric into forum emoticons:

! !

LOL. thats gold!

[motorcycles4eva]

is a fly without wings called a walk?

[TheInterceptor]

Roundabouts help traffic flow.

and

Driving a Toyota mean the car is super reliable and safe that you dont need to service it or change tyres......

[pottery beige]

that when you pull motor down for a quick freshen up..... car will be up and running again very soon......

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

that when you pull motor down for a quick freshen up..... car will be up and running again very soon......

Or will be completed within your initial budget.

[Airmon]

"Thats only a 10 minute job".....

[samsy351]

Originally Posted by Airmon

"Thats only a 10 minute job".....

Gold !
If I had a dollar for every time Ive said/heard that !!.....

[JimNiki]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

the condom was invented for misconception !!!!!

hehe ..

I heard it was invented by a New Zealander in 1872 by using a sheeps gut.
Then in the early 1900's it was perfected by the Swiss by removing it from the sheep first!

[Falcon Coupe]

Quoting myself here in the hope the red stamps slow down...

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Can't expect much different really, with so many members having personal agendas up their sleeve it's almost impossible for anything to stay on topic and useful on the forum of late.
The idea for the thread is great, it's a shame one has to wade through so much dribble to find facts.

I had bit of a cleanup and suggest this thread stay on topic. Any budding comedians or trolls can expect warning points/ negative rep from me.


For the benefit of those who struggle with reading and comprehension I shall re post the OP:

[geckoGT]

Heres one on topic for motoring misconceptions.

Many people believe the first holden built was the FJ, it was in fact the 48/215 (unofficially known as the FX) which was released in 1948. The FJ was the next model which was released in 1953.

Not ground breaking trivia there to us as many car enthusiasts know the 48/215 was the first but many of the general public believe it was the FJ.

[Rev28K]

VK group A "blue meanie" had a double row timing chain. It had provision to run two but was only allowed to race with one as that is how they were supplied by Holden.

It took until the Adventurer/Avalanche/Crewman/Coupe 4 for Holden to build a 4wd Commodore. There were some VL prototypes (up to 10?) built using R32 GTR components.

[Rev28K]

And the VL r32's were beaten by the Overlander aftermarket Kingswoods (HJ/HZ?) - thank you AMC magazine.

The V8 version of the LJ Torana wasn't going to be designated XU-2 according to Phil Zmood.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

Heres one on topic for motoring misconceptions.

Many people believe the first holden built was the FJ, it was in fact the 48/215 (unofficially known as the FX) which was released in 1948. The FJ was the next model which was released in 1953.

Not ground breaking trivia there to us as many car enthusiasts know the 48/215 was the first but many of the general public believe it was the FJ.

For many years I thought that too.

Another misconception concerning Holden is many people believe Holden was founded in 1948. While it's true the first Holden was made in 1948 the company itself was founded in 1856.

Alot of people probably don't even realize they were a saddlery in their early days.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by Ryan

For many years I thought that too.

Another misconception concerning Holden is many people believe Holden was founded in 1948. While it's true the first Holden was made in 1948 the company itself was founded in 1856.

Alot of people probably don't even realize they were a saddlery in their early days.

Have you tried telling them, oh that doesnt go over well either. I had a book that told the history of Holden which said the same thing, saddlers. It also said they grew by making interiors and wodden chassis for horse drawn coaches for companies all over the world, and then interiors and chassis for various car makers in the early 1900's. The Fishermans bend plant was a result of an agreement with Chevrolet (Im not sure if it was GM then) to exclusively use that plant for Chev products.

By the time we got to the FX, they were essentially no longer an Aussie company, any more than Ford was.

[nb_351]

Originally Posted by ELIIXR8

I don’t know about other states, but in NSW they have recently introduced "Safety Camera". Red light and speed camera in 1. Hume Hwy between Liverpool and Parramatta Rd intersection is absolutely littered with them.... I’m all for nailing idiots. Unlike the old fashion speed cameras how you get 3 massive signs warning prior to the camera, these new ones only have 1 sign just before the intersection. I do not speed on purpose and don’t drive like an idiot but I've lost count of how many times Ive approached an intersection and slammed my brakes because I was at that unhappy medium of either drive normal and there’s a small chance I might get hit with the red light or speed up and no doubt get done with speed camera. Now add this on top of questionable weather conditions and towing a trailer loaded with xxxxkgs and you’re telling me these are out for my safety? I know the towing is not an everyday instance but even in perfectly normal conditions I’ve had mates pressed right up against their seat belts because I hit the brake....

true mate, i drive on and back along woodville rd every day... theres 3 i think safety cameras, 2 speed cameras and a red light camera all in like 3 or 4 kms on the one road...
and being a mibile mechanic, i drive around half the night so i see them all the time, and cause im getting paid i purposely do under the limit haha

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by fmc351

Have you tried telling them, oh that doesnt go over well either. I had a book that told the history of Holden which said the same thing, saddlers. It also said they grew by making interiors and wodden chassis for horse drawn coaches for companies all over the world, and then interiors and chassis for various car makers in the early 1900's. The Fishermans bend plant was a result of an agreement with Chevrolet (Im not sure if it was GM then) to exclusively use that plant for Chev products.

By the time we got to the FX, they were essentially no longer an Aussie company, any more than Ford was.

Early manufacturers that Holden Motor Body Builders built bodies for imported chassis included Overland, Chevrolet, Durant, Hupmobile and Dodge during 1919. Some sources even state that they also built bodies for Ford vehicles in Australia up to the consttruction of Ford's own plant and built bodies for the Model T, but I have not been able to find a reliable reference for this. By 1924 Holden Motor Body Builders were the sole body manufacturer for General Motors.

From what I can find the Fishermans Bend factory for Holden was completed in 1939 but it appears it was not initially used for a lot of car production as wartime production was in full swing not long after. The planned Australian car (originally tabled as a proposal in 1936) was put on hold for war time production of machinery and arms.

As Holden Motor Body Builders were bought out by General Motors in 1931 to form General Motors - Holden (GM-H), it appears "Holden" never owned the Fishermans Bend plant, GM-H did.

The only thing Australian about the 48/215 was that it had 90% local content, even the design was based on a post war chevrolet design that had been rejected in the US. By that stage, the company was majority owned by GM and had been for 17 years.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

Early manufacturers that Holden Motor Body Builders built bodies for imported chassis included Overland, Chevrolet, Durant, Hupmobile and Dodge during 1919. Some sources even state that they also built bodies for Ford vehicles in Australia up to the consttruction of Ford's own plant and built bodies for the Model T, but I have not been able to find a reliable reference for this. By 1924 Holden Motor Body Builders were the sole body manufacturer for General Motors.

From what I can find the Fishermans Bend factory for Holden was completed in 1939 but it appears it was not initially used for a lot of car production as wartime production was in full swing not long after. The planned Australian car (originally tabled as a proposal in 1936) was put on hold for war time production of machinery and arms.

As Holden Motor Body Builders were bought out by General Motors in 1931 to form General Motors - Holden (GM-H), it appears "Holden" never owned the Fishermans Bend plant, GM-H did.

The only thing Australian about the 48/215 was that it had 90% local content, even the design was based on a post war chevrolet design that had been rejected in the US. By that stage, the company was majority owned by GM and had been for 17 years.

A mate had a couple of 40's Chev utes and they were pretty close to larger versions of an FX, they had 6's that were the spitting image of the old Holden 6, but again a lot larger.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by fmc351

A mate had a couple of 40's Chev utes and they were pretty close to larger versions of an FX, they had 6's that were the spitting image of the old Holden 6, but again a lot larger.

I have no doubt that the Chev 6 of the time period was very closely related, considering the Holden 138 Grey was based heavily on the Buick.

The engine was based on a Buick pre-war engine design, and saw only minor changes throughout its 15 year life

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

I have no doubt that the Chev 6 of the time period was very closely related, considering the Holden 138 Grey was based heavily on the Buick.

The Chev ones were close enough in colour (old and faded so maybe slight difference) to the later Holden red motors.

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by nb_351

true mate, i drive on and back along woodville rd every day... theres 3 i think safety cameras, 2 speed cameras and a red light camera all in like 3 or 4 kms on the one road...
and being a mibile mechanic, i drive around half the night so i see them all the time, and cause im getting paid i purposely do under the limit haha

i reply to this post under the misconception of safety cameras being safe.
i now set my cruise control at 5 to 10kms under the speed limits in these heavily affected areas , ontop of that , i try to be vigilant with the speed changes , and hard on the brakes at the 1st sign of an amber light . i really suggest that we should all now become granny drivers , and put them out of business . if thats what they want , then lets give it to them .

[flappist]

Common misconception:

Victorians must the worst drivers on earth as they have far more safetey cameras than anywhere else yet still have a roughly similar road toll to other states with less or no safety cameras at all.

[irlewy86]

a few I've heard over the years;

FWD will always be faster in drags (that one seemed to pop up after the first Fast and Furious movie)

Turbo's were invented by the Japanese

Hilux's are unbreakable

Camry's are made in Japan

[XWGT]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

a few I've heard over the years;



Hilux's are unbreakable

No misconception there

[DJM83]

You need a RWD car to go fast.

[Rev28K]

Originally Posted by DJM83

You need a RWD car to go fast.

I thought that had shifted to "you need awd to go fast"?

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Hilux's are unbreakable

The Top Gear one faired pretty well, blown up, burnt, left in the sea and it still starts.

[nb_351]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i reply to this post under the misconception of safety cameras being safe.
i now set my cruise control at 5 to 10kms under the speed limits in these heavily affected areas , ontop of that , i try to be vigilant with the speed changes , and hard on the brakes at the 1st sign of an amber light . i really suggest that we should all now become granny drivers , and put them out of business . if thats what they want , then lets give it to them .

then one day, when they stop making revenue, green slips and rego will climb even further yay haha
i think we should let the idiots who seem to ignore the signs keep going, but that might encourage the government that theyre actually "working"
we cant win mate lol
the way i see it is, if your breaking the law, and you get caught, stiff ...
ive been caught many times and have finally learnt after losing my licence a second time, and being mobile and on the road all the time i cant afford to lose it again, so i drive like my nan, majority of the time... when im gettnig paid for it especially

[Airmon]

Originally Posted by Rev28K

I thought that had shifted to "you need awd to go fast"?

You can't loose grip in an AWD car.

Or, You can go faster around a corner in an AWD car.

[irish2]

EDIT: sorry misread post.

[4Vman]

Common misconception: Car fuel and trip computers are completely accurate....