10 Year Warranty for Kia, it Could Happen

[fiestaz]

Originally Posted by hayseed

I'm well aware of that point.. (I actually do My own servicing) But the average Punter Doesn't. So they Blindly take It back to the dealer for the duration.......

It pays to research.

With capped pricing servicing and road side assist, most dealer servicing isn’t too bad price wise anyway.

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by Ford17

A 10 year warranty would have to show supreme confidence in the product's engineering and longevity.

By comparison, BMW only offer a 3 year / unlimited km warranty.

Maybe Kia are very well made?

I've owner several (about 5) new Kias and Hyundais in recent times, I have NEVER had a warranty claim, after many many years owning Falcons and Commodores it is a strange feeling when service asks "Any issues with the car" and I have to reply "No". Makes me be more critical of the car but I still don't find things to bitch about at service. Even my Brembos don't squeal which has been a problem with many of my previous non-Korean cars.
For the last 5 to 10 years they've been bolting them together pretty well.

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Neither do I.

Most with car taste get more attention by not driving one.

In your opinion of course.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Kia and Hyundai have been smashing the game since 2012 with better features and quality that is now equalling or bettering euro spec, and some people are still asking "would you buy one" because "it's a Kia". The boat left years ago - there's a reason that the i30 is the 4th best selling car - third if you factor in the Corolla above it included their sedan derivative that the i30 doesn't have.

I'm all over them both - can't wait for the 2021 N Performance 8speed, it'll be a rip-snorter.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Cashie

In your opinion of course.

I was only joking mate.

They are fantastic cars, excellent value for money.

A wagon version I would seriously consider.

[lamborghinifan]

Although it was hard work to actually get booked in and done. Local dealer warranted two failed tailgate struts on a 4+ year old Hyundai I load. Commercial vehicle used heaps every day. I must admit I was actually little surprised, and would have replaced them myself, but for the fact I rang and checked first. So, I would put it as a plus to buying a Kia. Just a shame that nothing really suits my current taste/budget.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by happy1

Hi, The reason you get mandatory recall of Takata airbags is that they kill people. The car manufacturers can (and should) be legally held responsible for the injury to the driver, without time limitations. Let's not use this as an example for other warranties related to keep cars operational.

Has to be one in every bunch.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Kia and Hyundai have been smashing the game since 2012 with better features and quality that is now equalling or bettering euro spec,

Err no, no they just haven't.

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

there's a reason that the i30 is the 4th best selling car

Actually there's 2 reasons:
Firstly, they're cheap. Secondly most people buying in that market segment, wouldn't know a good car if it bit them in the ****.
But that's the reality of the market. Most people want an iphone dock with wheels.

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

and some people are still asking "would you buy one" because "it's a Kia".

Umm, you do understand that Kia is, by definition, the cheaper, deliberately down-market brand of Hyundai, often deliberately using superseded Hyundai components.

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Umm, you do understand that Kia is, by definition, the cheaper, deliberately down-market brand of Hyundai, often deliberately using superseded Hyundai components.

Maybe 10 years ago they might have. The recently released Genesis G70 largely shares many of the 3 year old Stinger parts (platform, dash, headunit screen, brakes, etc). I think you’ll find the comparable Kia models are priced similar to the equivalent Hyundai model. Having owned both I can’t see how anyone could say Kia is the cheap brother.

eg:
Hyunda Tucson Highlander CRDi $48,800
Kia Stortage GT-Line CRDi $47,690

Hyundai Sante Fe Highlander $60,500
Kia Sorento GT-Line $58,990

And of course the JD Quality Study also agrees the Korean cars are ****boxes...NOT (see attachment)

[chookaradley]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Err no, no they just haven't.


Actually there's 2 reasons:
Firstly, they're cheap. Secondly most people buying in that market segment, wouldn't know a good car if it bit them in the ****.
But that's the reality of the market. Most people want an iphone dock with wheels.


Umm, you do understand that Kia is, by definition, the cheaper, deliberately down-market brand of Hyundai, often deliberately using superseded Hyundai components.

What absolute rubbish, I don't know where to start.

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Has to be one in every bunch.

I think his point is valid, what's your point regarding Australian statutory protection in reference to the Takata Airbag recall? Noting this is a world-wide recall that was initiated in response to a US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) investigation after 3 deaths? Hardly related to a warranty discussion.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Err no, no they just haven't.


Actually there's 2 reasons:
Firstly, they're cheap. Secondly most people buying in that market segment, wouldn't know a good car if it bit them in the ****.
But that's the reality of the market. Most people want an iphone dock with wheels.


Umm, you do understand that Kia is, by definition, the cheaper, deliberately down-market brand of Hyundai, often deliberately using superseded Hyundai components.

Good thing i was stating facts, and not asking your opinion - that's where you must have been confused. Having owned 24 cars this century alone, a lot of which being new, i'm pretty familiar with what makes a good car. Having also owned a new Rio SLS back in the day and currently an i30 SR Premium as as daily, i'm also pretty familiar with their quality and how it compares to other cars in the class, including Golf. You may want to research who makes up the team at Kia and Hyundai. Of course they're cheap cars, that IS their market segment, aside from Stinger and Genesis. However again you're incorrect, as the teirs for Kia and Hyundai products are basically at the same price point and have several differences in their design and feature list.

As far as quality goes, The two Korean cars we've owned run rings around both my Mustangs, and any Falcon i've owned in terms of build quality, features, AND reliability.

Anyway thanks for your hilarious arrogance and god complex

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Good thing i was stating facts, and not asking your opinion - that's where you must have been confused. Having owned 24 cars this century alone, a lot of which being new, i'm pretty familiar with what makes a good car. Having also owned a new Rio SLS back in the day and currently an i30 SR Premium as as daily, i'm also pretty familiar with their quality and how it compares to other cars in the class, including Golf. You may want to research who makes up the team at Kia and Hyundai. Of course they're cheap cars, that IS their market segment, aside from Stinger and Genesis. However again you're incorrect, as the teirs for Kia and Hyundai products are basically at the same price point and have several differences in their design and feature list.

As far as quality goes, The two Korean cars we've owned run rings around both my Mustangs, and any Falcon i've owned in terms of build quality, features, AND reliability.

Anyway thanks for your hilarious arrogance and god complex

Thank you for the post of the decade.
It sums up exactly how I see it too. It's clear those who have never owned any of the cars that they take pleasure in bagging and/or the badge snobs. Like you I've owned a large number of cars across many brands including Euro Prestige and the best value,most reliable and fit for purpose cars I've ever owned would be Hyundai Tucson, Kia Sportage and the Kia Stinger. The first two might not be the most exciting cars on the road, but they easily meet my criteria above.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by chookaradley

What absolute rubbish, I don't know where to start.

Proof that brand snobbery is still evident?

[ljf12]

Originally Posted by paule11

Looked at a Kia Cerato GT seemd well finished thought about buying one dont know what to buy now thye are not making Falcons

A while ago ( early December) in another thread I told how my wife bought a new Cerato. I don’t follow cars like I used to and I wasn’t even aware what the current Cerato looked like, and I had never even heard of the Cerato GT.

I sat in the GT at the dealership and really liked it, so much so a week after my wife bought her Sports Plus I bought a GT.

Had it about six weeks, what a great car , list price of $33000 drive away and it’s got a list of standard features a mile long.
“Small “ cars have so much room now and they drive really well, if anyone is looking I highly recommend they check out the Cerato range.

As a long time Ford fan at least I can say to myself that Ford once owned a share of Kia and the badge is a similar shape 😀

[jstanovic]

When we were looking for a car for the missus (up to 5yrs old) I didn’t care what brand it was. Just needed to be automatic, reverse camera, 7seats and not too big. No need for suv, 4wd etc etc. looked at about 10 different brands/cars and we ended up with a Kia Rondo (3yr old and 50,000km for under $20k). So far after 3yrs and approx 45,000km it has been absolutely brilliant, not a dollar spent except regular servicing, everything works, nothing has fallen off, no squeaks/rattles etc etc. only issue is the roof rails are starting to fade slightly, only noticed when I washed it this weekend!! Wish I could say the same about my previous 2008 falcon Ute and current 2014 Ranger!!!

[Whitey-AMG]

Good on em for trying....
In all practicality most modern engineered cars would easily do the 10 year stint if looked after and serviced regularly. ( read the fine print on any warranty and it will exclude heaps of stuff )
KIA have done their six sigma analysis and like most manufacturers, they know their failure rates and what the cost of rolling out an extended warranty v increased sales means to their business. It’s their parts sourcing and pricing that gives them the edge and allows them to maintain their margins despite forking out for replacements.

Mitsubishi did this as well a while back with a 10 year drivetrain warranty, didn’t help them much but a lot of their offerings were &$6s balls anyways.... lol.
KIA are progressive and raising the bar, it’s just brand snobbery that would prevent someone from buying one. I hate to admit and I try hard not to be, but I’m a brand snob so I wouldnt venture into a KIA dealership, but a 20 year warranty would get me in there !!!! Means the resale would be awesome even after the 6th owner !!

[MercuryT]

I used to love my Ford (hence joined here) but I'm not sure being a brand snob means a person can drive a Ford but not a Kia.

Ford is not exactly a top brand in terms of any prestige or wow factor.

Both are mostly budget brands for the masses, I see little difference.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

I used to love my Ford (hence joined here) but I'm not sure being a brand snob means a person can drive a Ford but not a Kia.

Ford is not exactly a top brand in terms of any prestige or wow factor.

Both are mostly budget brands for the masses, I see little difference.

Well....
15 years ago when I purchased my FPV, it was the pinnacle of what Ford Aus had to offer and KIA were screwing together very mediocre forms of transport.
Fast forward 15 years to now and If I had 60k to spend on a car now, I’m saying I wouldn’t consider any KIA, I’d likely be snobbing my way into a 3 year old A class AMG. I wouldn’t be spending my coin on a KIA is what I’m saying. That’s it.... 100 lashes for me now..

[Tonz]

but the 7yrs of comprehensive roadside assistance which goes with it

haven never been in position to buy a new car nor likely too, what does this actually amount to, that RAA, NRMA etc dont cover.

When I was many years younger and still in NZ my dad got a Honda agency, started with N360, N600 then to first Civic,, our advertising included the phrase, " no after sales warranty required, these cars are so good." other dealers hated dads guts.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Tonz

but the 7yrs of comprehensive roadside assistance which goes with it

haven never been in position to buy a new car nor likely too, what does this actually amount to, that RAA, NRMA etc dont cover.

When I was many years younger and still in NZ my dad got a Honda agency, started with N360, N600 then to first Civic,, our advertising included the phrase, " no after sales warranty required, these cars are so good." other dealers hated dads guts.

To be honest I've never bothered to read the terms of those state automotive bodies as I've never been a member or even looked into it, that's the benefit of the Kia program, you don't need to give it any consideration, its always there in the background should you ever need it without giving it a second thought.

My mate signed up to the RAA last week when his Egas wagon broke down, cost him $200 to sign up and once he'd joined they then said any call outs in the first 48hrs would set him back an extra $90.
Cost him as much for them to tell him what was wrong as it did the part to fix it.

[danzvtil]

I bought my rio SLS after following Professors thread about his experience with the same over on the other forum ��
My masculinity wasn’t threatened by owning a 3dr Kia, and I still stand up to pee.
If I was buying a new car today with my own money, it will def be a Kia.

[Tonz]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

To be honest I've never bothered to read the terms of those state automotive bodies as I've never been a member or even looked into it, that's the benefit of the Kia program, you don't need to give it any consideration, its always there in the background should you ever need it without giving it a second thought.

My mate signed up to the RAA last week when his Egas wagon broke down, cost him $200 to sign up and once he'd joined they then said any call outs in the first 48hrs would set him back an extra $90.
Cost him as much for them to tell him what was wrong as it did the part to fix it.

I hear what your saying, but who comes out or who do they send to collect your Kia or whatever IF you break down?
I cant see the local agent driving out 150-200k at 11pm at night, like the RAA guys does.
Ive belonged to RAA 11 years used them once but they had to get a tilt tray to bring me home and that was at 11pm 200K away from home

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by Tonz

I hear what your saying, but who comes out or who do they send to collect your Kia or whatever IF you break down?
I cant see the local agent driving out 150-200k at 11pm at night, like the RAA guys does.
Ive belonged to RAA 11 years used them once but they had to get a tilt tray to bring me home and that was at 11pm 200K away from home

They use the local motoring association, ie RAC, NRMA etc

[Wretched]

Stinger GT with a 10 yr warranty? sheit yeah

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by fiestaz

You can take a brand new car to any qualified and licensed mechanic. As long as they service it to manufacturer specs your completely covered by warranty.

In saying that, I spoke with our Hyundai mechanic who said they covered a Veloster Turbo, turbo replacement even though it was serviced with not to spec oil.

Hyundai covered a ripped drivers seat in our Iload and told us they were replacing very worn seats in Genesis’ used as hire cars even with 200,000 kms on them.

So these long warranty’s along with consumer protection has you truly covered. I think the longer warranty just takes the pain and time out of throwing the consumer protection laws book at the dealer. They just fix it within reason.

My mum has a Santa Fe and even out of warranty they still fixed things and looked after her and the car properly.

Unlike other car companies, they have probably worked out that keeping a customer happy at a small extra cost is better than making that customer tell 20 of their friends about how crap they were treated.

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Stinger GT with a 10 yr warranty? sheit yeah

Stinger GT with a 7 year warranty is still pretty amazing.

[MercuryT]

Seems no Stinger wagon planned. Damn.

I'd buy in a flash as I like to only run one car and it's impossible with a sedan.

SUVs also useless for me (boot too small, all height not width) so I'll have to stay with the current ride I guess.....

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

My mum has a Santa Fe and even out of warranty they still fixed things and looked after her and the car properly.

Unlike other car companies, they have probably worked out that keeping a customer happy at a small extra cost is better than making that customer tell 20 of their friends about how crap they were treated.

How good is human nature? You do something good and it's only talked about when something similar comes up in conversation.

You do something wrong and they'll tell anyone who'll listen, shout from the rooftops everywhere, Tracey Grimshaw is knocking on your door and then they'll haunt you after they die

[MercuryT]

With 3 Greyhounds and a Shepherd I need a wagon! Maybe one day

My R36 goes very well (very nice sound) and fits 2 in back and 2 in wagon.....

The SUV world has ruined proper Wagon people like me! ha