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Old 25-09-2020, 12:13 PM   #8
mick taylor
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Default Re: Medicinal Cannabis

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Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz View Post
Most modern medicine has its roots in natural remedies. Doctors are not opposed to natural remedies, most will tell you that the start to a healthy diet is fresh vegetables and fruit. The most widely used powerful pain relievers were originally derived from opium, and many products still use commercially grown poppies.
Yet the medical profession as a whole maintains there is no therapeutic benefit from Cannabis.

Anything with remotely medicinal properties has long since been extracted, purified, and synthesised. Every year big pharma spends billions testing everything from noxious weeds to spider-venom. They have tested every conceivable derivative of cannabis and found nothing they can sell. WTF does that tell you.

Off course the intaweb is full of people claiming all sorts of miracle cures from cannabis, and many other people reporting those claims as "fact".
So what else is new?
There's a billion people in China who think Rhino-Horn is an aphrodisiac, people who believe you can cure all manner of illnesses with aromatic oils, or by shoving a hose up your ****, etc, etc.
So forgive me if I still insist on getting my medical information from the medical and scientific experts, rather than from some dude on the internet.

This is not to say that there aren't some beneficial side-affects from cannabis, but the utterly bizarre thing is those people who refuse to take medication that actually does the job, but will instead subject themselves to the risks associated with cannabis.
My Dad went through years of chemo. It made him puke, so the doctor game him anti-nausea medication. Problem solved.

For people who have abnormally suppressed appetites, cannabis products can "help" because they act on those particular receptors in the brain. (aka "the munchies") But other safer drugs can do the same thing.

The biggest problem with the debate is that most proponents of "medicinal" cannabis are also those who enjoy getting stoned, and argue for the legalisation of recreational cannabis. So they are not exactly unbiased.

And the biggest problem with "medicinal" cannabis, is that its a joke. Look at anywhere its been legalised in the USA. Stoners can go to a "medicinal" pot outlet and buy any damn variety they choose.

I cannot say that pot screws up everyone who uses it. One study established a 90% correlation between psychotic mental illnesses, and a history of pot use. But that was saying that 90% of psychos had used pot, no indication of what % of pot user become psychos.
One argument being that it only triggers those with an underlying predisposition.
I have unfortunately known a few people who have screwed themselves up with pot, and become psychotic, paranoid, and in some cases schitzo.
But again, I don't know how many pot users I may have known who didn't develop any symptoms.
A old mate of mine smoked pot from 1983 to 2019 he was on the bong every hour, when he woke up he would be straight into the bong, now I seen him in Jun and he said he gave smoking dope up and the smokes as well now but he said the smokes were the hardest by way far more to give up. he said that was a real battle he was still dealing with. he was an alcoholic as well but gave that up ok about 8 ears ago.
He was the sort of dude that is called a compulsive obsessive nowadays.

I smoked a little pot from when I was 21yo to 30yo and only never bought it 2 times shearing in a bag with a mate and he keep the bag and the only reason that I did was because I hated my job and drinking was due to the same, looking back it was to escape the hell I was in. I was driven to it at the end of the week.
I got to the point that I did not want to live and I always hated people who did drugs and when I smoked the pot I met many really nice people who smoked pot. most gave such up within 10 years.
I never got about with other people then on pot.
That dude that mentioned above he got into mushrooms and then the speed when he went to Sydney and came back nearly dead.

The view point of the average Aussie as to smoking dope was just pathetic uneducated childish dribbling nonsense. but nowadays dope is much stronger in the last 20 years to the point that it's a really bad drug now and if you buy any that has been grown under lights it's bad for you because it lacks a chemical and because of that lack it sends people schitzo. I seen about such on a real good honest TV show all about the history.
Not to mention they who smoke the synthetic dope that's really stupid thing to do.

I am all for being Licenced to smoke pot and quality real pot sold by the Government is the only way to deal with the madness criminal element. we have to get rid of the drop kick attitude that sadly prevails over such issues, because what the gov has been doing is truly only aiding criminal intent. they are not winning and society is failing badly because of their childish attitudes.
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