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Old 05-10-2007, 04:43 AM   #11
Keepleft
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gtfpv scribbled - well , obviously , nobody here has had an accident , becuase they were going 10kms overthe limit. like i have, before that i hadn't had an accident for 20 years. if i was travelling at 70kms /hr. instead of 80. i believe the accident wouldnt of happened and i would 've stopped in time .
Okay, *you* were going too-fast, what has that to do with the prevailing limit at the time?


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I really cant believe that people dont believe that speed killls. perhaps that is why so many get killed on the roads .
At what point does 'speed kill'??? 1km/h? 101km/h??

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Other things cause fatalities too, like drink driving, falling asleep, complacency, animals, punctures,
Got that right, and much more can be added....


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why is it that people dont think that someone coming the other way, may just be speeding and lose control veer into your lane , and kill you . why do people get angry when people believe this thing happens. It has nothing to o with driver skill or farquing gene pools .
An idiot, et al, will likely be dangerous at any speed, but the faster such an idiot is going the more likely a chaotic-result-outcome!

This outcome may or may not relate to the prevailing posted or default speed limit in place, OR if driving on a derestricted length of road where you are not giving 'a limit' at which to drive.

Elsewhere-
NORMXB references NSW 'speed derestriction' as applied up to July 1979 where we used this sign to represent an 80km/h 'prima facie' rural default.

You could exceed this 80km/h IF it was safe to do so, but were held accountable by the courts for 'bad outcome'. Typically, you had a pig of a time defending yourself of a charge/s - than if you were at 80km/h or less.

The modern legal protection agasint that is to remove the 80km/h referencing and so avoid prima facie legal impact, here 'manner' and 'speed dangerous' charges et al can be laid instead.

Under modern application of speed derestriction - certain road users can remain speed limited, L1, P1, P2 drivers owing 'license category' speed limits, and heavy vehicles under another rule of this jurisdiction.

NSW may well use derestriction once again, but most likely only to some higher-standard remote rural lengths of road, no fanfare, just a mild change in the RUH reflecting its meaning per AS1742.4 of 1999 AND UN Convention and appropriate police patrol enforcement in regards 'manner of driving' etc. (All stated elsewhere).
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