Schumacher critical

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by prydey

one of the best articles i have read for a long time. Schumacher and family owe us nothing. we are not 'entitled' to know what is going on. those who are privy to that info will decide when and what, but otherwise we should just accept that he and his family just want to be left alone.

of course i would like to know how he is going, but its not my right to know.

bravo to the author.

My only desire is to know that his situation is improving or his condition will allow him to have some ability to lead a 'normal' life.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by prydey

Schumacher and family owe us nothing.

If they choose to live with the constant fear that a staffer or visitor is going to leak information, press are going to try and invade their privacy, etc, so be it.

Alternatively, an honest and frank response would let everyone, family and fans alike, get on with life.

[Road Games]

Exactly.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Schumacher family continues to ask fans and media for privacy

With reporters continuing to ask about Michael Schumacher's health, his agent is once again asking that the family's privacy be respected.

It's been two-and-a-half years since a tragic skiing accident left Formula 1 legend Michael Schumacher with severe brain injuries, and in that time, updates on the German's status have slowed to a trickle.

Schumacher's agent, Sabine Kehm, broke that trend, but not in the way that fans hoped.

"Michael will not disappear but at the moment the private situation is so difficult that unfortunately no insight can be given," Kehm said during an event promoting the F1 drivers' charity soccer match, Fox Sports reports.

"There must be understanding for this."

"We just have to accept that the family wants to continue to protect their privacy."

The last significant report on Schumacher's health came in October of 2014, less than a year after his accident.

At that time, a doctor said there had been "some progress" in the recovery and that Schumacher could be rehabilitated in one to three years.

We're hopeful the progress continues.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/...id=mailsignout

[Yellow_Festiva]

Michael Schumacher 'is responding to treatment and will come out from this very, very difficult situation', says former Ferrari boss Luca Cordero di Montezelmo

Michael Schumacher is responding to treatment and will recover, the former Ferrari chairman Luca Cordero di Montezelmo has said.

It had recently been suggested that the condition of the seven-time Formula One world champion was getting worse following his 2013 skiing accident.

Mr di Montezelmo said himself in February that Schumacher’s health was “not good”.

However, the man who was Ferrari chairman when Schumacher won five consecutive world titles between 2000-04, offered renewed hope to fans of the German superstar on Monday.

“I’m very pleased to know that he is reacting," he told Ecumenical News

“I know how strong he is. I’m sure that thanks to his determination, which will be crucial, he will come out from this very, very difficult situation.”

Very little is known of the German's health after he sustained severe head injuries in a skiing accident in December 2013 in the Alpine resort of Meribel and there have been several contradictory reports about his condition.

At the opening of an exhibition in Marburg, Germany, in February his manager Sabine Kehm said it was important to remind people of the seven-time world champion's achievements .

"He is the most successful driver in history and sometimes, on days like this, it is good to be reminded of it. Of course, Michael is not here and of course we miss him. We know what has happened and cannot change it.

"We must accept it and hope with everything we have that with continued support and patience he will one day be back with us. Racing was his life and no one would have liked to have been here more than him."

Schumacher, who spent six months in an induced coma following the crash, has been receiving specialist medical care at home on the shores of Lake Geneva since September 2014.

Ever since the skiing accident happened, there has been much speculation about Schumacher's condition, with many reports being rebutted by Ms Kehm.

She accused Bunte magazine of raising “false hopes” shortly before Christmas when it claimed the Formula One star was walking again.

According to earlier reports he is paralysed and confined to a wheelchair, has memory problems and cannot speak. Nearly two years after the accident, FIA President and close friend Jean Todt said Schumacher was “still fighting” in his recovery.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/...id=mailsignout

[Express]

Michael Schumacher legal row: Lawyer reveals injuries as German magazine sued over its claims he could walk again after rehab



Staff writers, News Corp Australia Network

19 September, 2016




THE extent of Michael Schumacher’s injuries have been revealed, as his family sue a magazine over its claims he could walk again.

The Schumacher family’s lawyer Felix Damm presented documents to a German court, and explained the former Formula 1 champion’s injuries he suffered in a skiing accident.

Schumacher’s family is taking German magazine Bunte to court over a cover story that claimed he could walk again.

The Mirror reports that his family have strongly denied the claims, and Damm told the court: “He cannot walk”.

He also said Schumacher is unable to stand even with the assistance of therapists, The Mirror also reports.

In the lawsuit against the magazine, the family are reportedly also arguing for the right to Schumacher’s privacy.

He suffered a head injury while skiing in the French Alps in 2013.



The Bunte magazine which made the claim.


He was first flown to Grenoble Hospital where doctors performed two operations and then placed him into a medically induced coma for six months.

Schumacher is still being cared for at his family home in Lake Geneva by fulltime staff.

Earlier this year, his manager Sabine Kehm said she hoped that Schumacher would “one day be back with us”.

In December last year, she was forced to deny the magazine’s reports.

“Unfortunately, we are forced by a recent press report to clarify that the assertion that Michael could move again is not true,” she said at the time.

Bunte’s report is said to have quoted an unnamed friend of Schumacher’s who claimed: “Michael is very thin. But he can once again walk a little with the help of his therapists. He manages to make a couple of steps. And he can also raise an arm.”

Kehm also said the report was “irresponsible”.

Schumacher was on holiday with his wife Corinna and his two children when he hit his head at the Mirabel ski resort on December 29, 2013.

A verdict in the case is expected after October.

Originally published as Schumacher legal row: ‘He cannot walk’

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...1bf611ca584cea

[DBourne]

So what is his actual condition? Is he awake, or still in a coma?

[b0son]

From everything I've read, he's awake and aware and not much else.

[comagutsa]

Originally Posted by b0son

From everything I've read, he's awake and aware and not much else.

no way to live

[Express]

First photos of Michael Schumacher since ski accident being hawked for $1.71m



20 December, 2016



An alleged friend of Michael Schumacher is reportedly trying to sell a photograph of the injured Formula One driver lying in his bed at his Swiss home, for around £1 million ($1.71m).

No images of the seven-time world champion have been seen since he suffered a brain injury after hitting a rock while skiing in late 2013.



Michael Schumacher in 2012. Photo: Getty Images


But European media outlets report a photo of Schumacher was "smuggled out of his home by a friend".

It was then offered for sale with a reported pricetag of £1m ($1.71m).

The Sun reported that the prosecutor's office in Offenburg had said that "an unknown person" had taken "secret" snaps and were offering them for "high amounts of money".

Police are investigating, with suggestions the photographer was a friend of Schumacher.

Schumacher's manager Sabine Kehm dodged the development, saying: "Michael's health is not a public issue and therefore we will not comment on it."

Schumacher's condition has been the subject of massive speculation but his family has asked for privacy.

After the skiing injury in December 2013 he was placed into a medically induced coma.

He regained consciousness by June 2014.

In September 2014 Schumacher was moved to the medial centre at his family home in Geneva where he reportedly remains paralysed.

No official confirmation of his current condition have been released.


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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorspo...19-gtekxg.html

Michael Schumacher's health remains private matter



18 December, 2016



The condition of Michael Schumacher's health will remain closely guarded among family and close associates, the former Formula One champion's manager said on Saturday.

"Michael's health is not a public issue, and so we will continue to make no comment in that regard," Sabine Kehm said in a statement.



Former Formula One driver Michael Schumacher. Photo: AP


"We have to protect his intimate sphere. Legally seen and in the longer term, every statement related to his health would diminish the extent of his intimate sphere."

Schumacher sustained severe head injuries in a skiing accident in France on December 29, 2013 and has been cared for at his home in Switzerland since September 2014.

Kehm said the Schumacher family was aware that fans were hoping for news of the 47-year-old German's condition, "but we do this with full commitment to Michael's guidelines and can only thank people for their understanding".

Kehm announced that the family was launching a "Keep Fighting Initiative" as a sign of gratitude to fans and to encourage people inspired by Schumacher's career "to keep fighting and never give up".

Schumacher's accident happened on a family vacation as he was skiing with his son at the Meribel ski resort in the French Alps. The avid skier hit the right side of his head on a rock, cracking his helmet. Doctors operated to remove blood clots from his brain, but some were left because they were too deeply embedded.

Schumacher's condition stabilised after he was placed in a drug-induced coma, from which he later emerged.

"Michael has always been very protective of his privacy, even during the most successful times of his career. He has always made sure there is a clear and distinct line between his public persona and his private one," Kehm said.

Schumacher, who made his name with Benetton before joining Ferrari in 1996, won a record seven F1 titles and 91 races.


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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorspo...18-gtdgg4.html

[FTE217]

What a friend NOT ! **** him, I expect no one will purchase on principle and knowing MS's family will sue etcetc.....

I had read the other day about a new campaign being Keep Fighting initiative.
See link http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-1...vement/8130308

[JC]

I don't know how MS feels being kept alive as a vegetable, but I would not choose that. Existence is not life!

[b0son]

His condition will be made public at some point, and all the secrecy and paranoia on the family's part will have been for nothing. They'd be far better off issuing a one off statement outlining his state, and that would make the media and public lose interest for the most part, and they could all just get on with life.

[Express]

Michael Schumacher is a big brand and especially so in F1 mad Europe.

I doubt anyone involved in the running of Schumacher’s business interests would want to close the door on his profit generating public persona by removing him completely from the media and public minds.

I tend to agree with JC, quality of life and all that would come into play if it was me and my family are well aware of my wishes.

But if he’s not on life support then there’d be no plug to pull and if it’s like Australia where assisted suicide is murder than you can only feel sorry for him.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by b0son

His condition will be made public at some point, and all the secrecy and paranoia on the family's part will have been for nothing. They'd be far better off issuing a one off statement outlining his state, and that would make the media and public lose interest for the most part, and they could all just get on with life.

Could not agree more. I don't get the whole secrecy thing.

Fact is, he is a public figure, loved, respected, looked up to, by millions of people and motorsport fans. Give them an update FFS and be done with it.

Sell the story for a few million bucks and use the money to fund his care if need be....

[FTE217]

We can all agree and others would disagree.
I'm all for quality of life etcetc BUT we also should put ourselves in his wife's position on the circumstance and children.
It is her right to keep all within their bubble, it doesn't suit us BUT thats her/their call.
People need to accept and respect this imo.
Would you think MS during his career of highs and lows not at times lay together in discussion with his worrying wife discussing IF this happens or that happens I wish you to make sure you do this if any hope for eg ? MS was/is a very smart calculating man something as this would not surprise me.
Lauda had the Priest come in reading his last rites - did his wife say switch everything off in that worrying no hope first week another eg.........
This is one families decision - its their choice their business no matter what we feel.
I'm sure some here have lost loved ones, despite how terrible we know it looks seeing one laying in bed hopeless I wonder how his kids feel to at least know Dad is still with them, they can touch or kiss him gently for eg talk to him even though there is no response, hopefully not in pain...something is better than nothing as they say.

I'm just playing devils advocate - in the same position I don't know what I would or not do if it was my Dad.

[ebxr8240]

Just goes to show.. Whatever our issues are .. There's always someone WAY worse off.. I feel so sorry for wife and family...

[XByoot]

Originally Posted by FTE217

We can all agree and others would disagree.
I'm all for quality of life etcetc BUT we also should put ourselves in his wife's position on the circumstance and children.
It is her right to keep all within their bubble, it doesn't suit us BUT thats her/their call.
People need to accept and respect this imo.
Would you think MS during his career of highs and lows not at times lay together in discussion with his worrying wife discussing IF this happens or that happens I wish you to make sure you do this if any hope for eg ? MS was/is a very smart calculating man something as this would not surprise me.
Lauda had the Priest come in reading his last rites - did his wife say switch everything off in that worrying no hope first week another eg.........
This is one families decision - its their choice their business no matter what we feel.
I'm sure some here have lost loved ones, despite how terrible we know it looks seeing one laying in bed hopeless I wonder how his kids feel to at least know Dad is still with them, they can touch or kiss him gently for eg talk to him even though there is no response, hopefully not in pain...something is better than nothing as they say.

I'm just playing devils advocate - in the same position I don't know what I would or not do if it was my Dad.

Great words there mate. He never gave up in his career, so maybe his wishes were to never give up in a situation like this,we just don't know. Personally,I respect their wishes for privacy and wish them all the best. It must be one of the toughest decisions to let go of a loved on,even when it is their wish in these situations.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by b0son

His condition will be made public at some point, and all the secrecy and paranoia on the family's part will have been for nothing. They'd be far better off issuing a one off statement outlining his state, and that would make the media and public lose interest for the most part, and they could all just get on with life.

No it'd all make it even worse as people would ask for even more details.

Personally I can't believe people not respecting their wishes and wanting to know more, it's all a bit voyeuristic.

[FTE217]

Thanks XByoot, your spot on about him, he never gave up.
The other point is there is always 2 sides to every storey.
You have to admire his wife tbh, she's living in "hope" - she has decided to carry on as if her husband is still around or whatever way I can't find the words to describe this.
Imagine, not moving forward with life so to speak, not having a comforting partner to console with but to carry on her families daily needs.
Despite the money/support there is it sure would be a strange daily life for her.
I hurt for this overall - I admired and loved this racer, despite his "ways" he was an absolute Champion our beloved sport has lost at present in life form.
Saddens me greatly.

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by FTE217

You have to admire his wife tbh, she's living in "hope" - she has decided to carry on as if her husband is still around or whatever way I can't find the words to describe this.
Imagine, not moving forward with life so to speak, not having a comforting partner to console with but to carry on her families daily needs.
Despite the money/support there is it sure would be a strange daily life for her.

I’m in my late 70’s and I know many people in situations like this who are looking after elderly partners that are in various degrees of vegetative or immobile states and they do it without the assistance of wealth.

I’m one of them myself who cares for my wife who after a series of strokes was finally left unable to walk or talk.

Life has to go on for us even when hope is gone.

I feel sorry for Schumacher and his family but I’m sure his family has it better than many others in this world.

[FTE217]

Loudpipes, great post and so sorry of your situation all the very best to both of you, I'm sure she knows your there - sticking by your loved one/s no matter what thats what its all about.
All the best to you mate.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by b0son

They'd be far better off issuing a one off statement outlining his state, and that would make the media and public lose interest for the most part, and they could all just get on with life.

Why? It's none of anyone else's business, the media scum should just get on with life instead of trying to pester the family for news. Schumacher's health is not 'news'.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by NX74205

Why? It's none of anyone else's business, the media scum should just get on with life instead of trying to pester the family for news. Schumacher's health is not 'news'.

That's nice. Doesn't change the fact that there are enough people wanting to know that the press will pursue it, and the family will have to go out of its way to maintain privacy. Doesn't sound like much of a life, constantly being vigilant and cautious about anyone you let into your life.

[EB#]

The media's insatiable appetite for gossip has nothing to do with news, updates, looking out for the fans or well-meaning messages..... It is all just about cashing in. The phrase "the public have a right to know" is horribly distorted and widely misunderstood in the context of a revenue-driven media climate of today.

In this day and age of rampant social media and anyone with a phone having the ability to be a papparazzi, it is a credit to the Schumacher family that they have held their privacy this long.

[Express]

Originally Posted by EB#

The media's insatiable appetite for gossip has nothing to do with news, updates, looking out for the fans or well-meaning messages..... It is all just about cashing in. The phrase "the public have a right to know" is horribly distorted and widely misunderstood in the context of a revenue-driven media climate of today.

In this day and age of rampant social media and anyone with a phone having the ability to be a papparazzi, it is a credit to the Schumacher family that they have held their privacy this long.

This is the perfect example for your argument against 'the public have a right to know'.

Even though it's a file sealed for the privacy of those involved including the ex-wife who is still alive, a newspaper has won a court ruling to have private details of someone divorce made public so as they can sell copy.

Public figure or not everyone is entitled to some privacy and there is something morally wrong with this in my books.

Judge orders Prince divorce file unsealed

December 22, 2016
Associated Press


A judge has ordered Prince's divorce file opened next month over the objections of ex-wife Manuela Testolini.

According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune Wednesday's order says the records from Prince's 2006 divorce will be made public on January 13.

The judge denied Testolini's request to stay his order pending appeal.

The newspaper wants records from the couple's divorce released publicly. Testolini's lawyers objected, saying the records are tied to a private settlement.

Hennepin County Family Court Judge Thomas Fraser issued an order in August unsealing the divorce records. The documents' release was delayed because of objections from Testolini; Prince's half brother, Omarr Baker; and Bremer Trust, the company overseeing Prince's estate.

Prince's marriage to Testolini was his second. They married in 2001 and divorced amicably in 2006.

The US rock star died on April 21 from an accidental overdose of fentanyl.

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http://www.news.com.au/world/breakin...01bfe995cf0a98

[prydey]

agree.

personally in the schumacher case, i don't think the public do have a right to know. he was already retired when he had the accident, therefore his public life was basically over. Of course due to his profile whatever he did would still make 'news' but it wasn't people's 'right' to know what he was up to.

its fine to have an opinion, but you need to respect the family's decisions. whether you think they are right or wrong is irrelevant. He is a husband and father and has always kept his private life sheltered, even when he was racing. Why should it be any different now.

I will forever hold on to hope that while he still has breath in him, that there is hope for he and his family and friends. apart from that i do not care that i'm not getting updated as to his condition. its none of my business or anyone else's.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by NX74205

Why? It's none of anyone else's business, the media scum should just get on with life instead of trying to pester the family for news. Schumacher's health is not 'news'.

Media only reports on matters of interest to the public who are willing to pay for news stories, proof is right here with the interest generated on this forum post about Schumacher condition.

[Express]

Being interested in knowing and being entitled to know are two different things.

I’m interested to know but I don’t feel I’m entitled to.

If a newspaper reported his condition I’d read about it but that doesn’t mean I believe they should take someone to court to gain access to personal info just because they will make money out of people like me who are interested.

I’m interested in seeing Scarlett Johansson naked but I’m sure she doesn’t agree with me.


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[MrEL]

Originally Posted by Express

I’m interested in seeing Scarlett Johansson naked but I’m sure she doesn’t agree with me.


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We need to get a class action started , a change.org petition and a facebook page going STAT for this to happen.