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Old 04-07-2007, 08:20 PM   #1
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just wondering what aprenticships people think i should go for. im looking to start something or have something ste up for the start of next year.

id be really interested in doing something like with grand toura restorations but they arnt interested in anyone for over another year so yeah...

has to be in melb btw

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Old 04-07-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
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Boilermaker. I done one, now working as a pressure welder. Money is top dollar too.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:26 PM   #3
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Construction/mining/diesel mechanic or something like landscaping. Areas in demand and offer top dollars.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:27 PM   #4
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Pick up for crap and move to WA, thats what I would do.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:35 PM   #5
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Boilermaker. I done one, now working as a pressure welder. Money is top dollar too.
bit off topic but im a 3rd year

and was wondering how to get in to pressure welding and how much ur gettin payyed
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prefer something with car restoration other wise plumbing or landscaping, what do people rekon????
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:41 PM   #8
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Well I do brick paving and it use to come under landscapping but as of next year(in SA, not sure about other states) you will be able to do a brick paving apprenticships. It's not bad work if you get a good boss, mines my dad and my brother, so it's hard for me to have sickies.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:45 PM   #9
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bit off topic but im a 3rd year

and was wondering how to get in to pressure welding and how much ur gettin payyed

Got my ticket 7 (TIG Welding pressure pipe) in my 3rd year of my apprenticeship. Finished all my tradeschool start of 3rd year. The company I worked for, who I'm still with specialize in boiler shuts at the local power stations and pipe spooling (building pipelines).

Workshop rate for me as a welder is around 40 bucks an hr. 4th year I was getting 26 an hr as a boilermaker. All depends on what area your in, I'm in the Latrobe Valley so there's always plenty of breakdown/shut work on at any of the power stations.
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im a 1st year diesel mechanic. Went from cars up to trucks and now im not looking back. There are so many opertunitys with heavy stream
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:56 PM   #11
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Pick a trade that gives you the opportunity to be self employed. A few years down the track you'll be cheering. You don't get rich working for someone else and a life spent on the tools is pretty mundane imho. The key is to choose something that doesn't require huge overheads of equipment and tools to showcase your skills

My pick in the current climate would be refrigeration mechanic
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Got my ticket 7 (TIG Welding pressure pipe) in my 3rd year of my apprenticeship. Finished all my tradeschool start of 3rd year. The company I worked for, who I'm still with specialize in boiler shuts at the local power stations and pipe spooling (building pipelines).

Workshop rate for me as a welder is around 40 bucks an hr. 4th year I was getting 26 an hr as a boilermaker. All depends on what area your in, I'm in the Latrobe Valley so there's always plenty of breakdown/shut work on at any of the power stations.

cheers mate you got lucky working for a company that does pipe to start with all i do is strutal work for SAMARAS STRUTAL
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Plumbing is a good option and has Huge potential in the future,

Dont really need big overheads to set up shop, just a van some tools and some sticky tape. :evil3:
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Plumbing is a good option and has Huge potential in the future,

Dont really need big overheads to set up shop, just a van some tools and some sticky tape. :evil3:
why did you get off the tools then?:P
Dont listen XR-351,pluming sucks the big one,I should know been doing it 22 years,me backs gone,hearings stuffed and im getting arthritis in my hands,not only that we all smoke and drink way too much,and have huge beer guts.
If you think that suits you,and you dont mind wearing stubbies and blue singlets in the middle of winter,go for it...
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:27 PM   #15
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whatever you choose, expect to work HARD and earn bugger all pay, unless you get a good employer who is happy to pay you proper wages. I did my landscape apprenticeship and when i got my trade certificate it is the best feeling to have accomplished something so significant, but boy did i earn every cent, especially when i was being charged out at $40-50/hour and earning $5/hour! but i learnt so much doing it and am a much better person because of it.

Nowdays, in cetain trades, the government will buy you like $600 worth of tools for your job, gotta love that
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why did you get off the tools then?:P
I'll get back onto the tools oneday. I sure dont miss handling copper on a cold rainy day though, or coming home with blue and red poisoned fingers lol
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:47 PM   #17
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Go for aircraft mechanic. Big dollars when you have done your 4 years
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:51 PM   #18
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Would there be much landscaping work going on? with the drought and all i mean...




Not being a smartass BTW, just genuinely interested
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im looking into doing an electrical apprectiship. i really enjoy doing it and work experience gave me an extreamly good taste of what its like. so thats what i will be doing after yr 12
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Would there be much landscaping work going on? with the drought and all i mean...




Not being a smartass BTW, just genuinely interested
With the water shortage, people are looking for waterwise gardens, basically natives, so they want to get rid of all that lawn out the back. Also landscaping isn't just plants. I learnt to build patios, sheds, limestone walls, brick walls, water features, water gardens/waterfalls, fencing, reticulation..bit more than your hack lawnmower man who calls himself a landscaper who can pull a few weeds and clean your gutters.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:10 PM   #21
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im an Apprentice Machinist.
start my 4th year on Monday.
its a good job.

maybe do a Fitting/Turning app.
you can earn quite a few $$ as a Fitter.
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Electrician is good, especially if your can get into the mechanical side of things, ie: powering aircons/fans and building mech boards or any specialised sparky work. Good cash and future prospects.
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With the water shortage, people are looking for waterwise gardens, basically natives, so they want to get rid of all that lawn out the back. Also landscaping isn't just plants. I learnt to build patios, sheds, limestone walls, brick walls, water features, water gardens/waterfalls, fencing, reticulation..bit more than your hack lawnmower man who calls himself a landscaper who can pull a few weeds and clean your gutters.
sounds like more fun than i thought, i like doing all those things.
Might look into it. Cheers slammer
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My advice would be go a building trade.Yuo'll be able to afford pay for work on your car cars,and if you ever grow out of them you won't be stuck earning crap money for ever.
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Would there be much landscaping work going on? with the drought and all i mean...




Not being a smartass BTW, just genuinely interested
I've been flat out since middle of last year, and just had a month off for wedding/honeymoon and still got a month or 2 in front of me. People are worried about lawns and gardens but most work seems to be paving or retaining walls for me or getting the gardens up to the planting stage and planting them out later. There are ways around it anyway, using natives or drought tolerant species.

As for an apprenticeship, I say go for it, for the few years you get crap wages you get yourself qualified, and at the end of it with more hard work you can start your own business and earn double what your mates have been on the term of your apprenticeship. Just pick your trade, restoring cars may be satisfying but I'de imagine it'd be hard to get into with not a lot doing it.
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I would have to agree with the guys that said pick a trade you can go out on your own latter.
Sparky,plumber,builder,plant mechanic,maintenance fitter as you dont want to work for someone all you life.

Im a maintenance fitter around $100k pa 3 days a week,and Im a bit lazy so I should be earning /working more.
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ROOF PLUMBER :P

i heard its good money replacing pipes gutters and COLORBOND steel as well i thinK?
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Go for aircraft mechanic. Big dollars when you have done your 4 years

only sometimes if your a contractor

i left after my apprenticeship on about 19/hr including a small shift penalty. Im now doing another apprenticeship in the electrical industry and im on about 24/hr

you used to make big money on planes. Now, with the introduction of the EASA licensing system it'll only get harder

anything construction is where the $$$ are at
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Your kidding right? If thats the case, somebody better tell the industry that! Aviation is a good industry, if you enjoy working with your hands and work on different areas rather than just turning the spanners... pity all the regulation is killing it..

Do what you enjoy, not the big money jobs.. If you enjoy it, you will stick with it longer..

Some other industrys that are not what most people think about..

Refridgeation & Airconditioning, and security system installer.. Both have more work than you can ever want and pay well...
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Do something you have a interest in, it makes it easer.

The thing I Find is the thing you enjoy or like doing, soon as it becomes your work it's not that enjoyable any more.

I.E I am a mechanical fitter (4th year apprentice) I spent 13hrs yesterday and 4Hrs this morning installing big prop shafts, seals and bearings and pumping on Couplings. I was slightly aggravated about pulling 7hrs overtime on a Friday which due to owe working hours during the week is only meant to be a 6hour day, But i was ****ed about having to go in on Saturday to finish off. however i am quite happy to come home and work on my car or motorbike and not get payed for it.

The reason i think is when you are at work you are doing it for someone else, when you are working on you own projects you are doing it for you.

I decided to be a Fitter cause i enjoy working with my hands am and interested in big machinery the pay isn't bad depending on your employer and also the work is fairly varied so your not just doing the same thing every day, one day/ week you could be installing Big engines the next your fitting bearings and seals or sitting on ya you know what flushing a hydraulic system.

doesn't mean I like working, it just makes it easer to get throe the day, there are downsides to every Job and something you think oh yeah that's not too bad, but after you have been doing it day in day out for 6 months it becomes very repetitive.

You need to think and ask yourself can you see yourself doing this for the next 40 years .

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