Undercover Police XR6 Turbo in Brisbane

[347Stroker]

Just thought I would let you all know up here in QLD that I was just harassed, and baited for a race by a silver XR6 Turbo, reg. TRI24 an Indy, brace yourself series plate. Be on your guard....he was on Newnham road, apparantly from the Upper Mt Gravatt station.

[TheSneakiness]

And he was a cop?

[Racecraft]

Go and have a peak in the police workshop at Pickering Street, well the carpark anyhow.. There are a few XR8's, a few T's even a couple of Terri's complete with roof racks ...

[XA Coupsta]

Hey 347Stroker,

Yeh you bet - had the exact same situation. In fact i've even seen him set up a speed gun on Old Cleveland Road too - with the XR6 parked in a side street - him out in uniform pinging speedsters.

Coupsta

[347Stroker]

Well I was driving home in my XR8 ute, and heres this silver XR in the mirrors, right on my tail, pushing, and then shoots up the inside at a million miles an hour, as we cross over Mt Gravatt Capalaba road, heading north, so as we went past repco, in the dip, I booted the ute, going up the hill, and saw at first what I thought was a shift light on the lower right side of the dash, and looked back in the mirror, and it was white......so I slowed, and he wouldnt pass, so I hit the brakes, as if to want to turn right, and saw the bloody uniform looking at me.
This cop was really trying to get me to get up it, so he could race, and then book me.
They try and say under Joh it was a police state.......

In my books, if a copper tries to race you, and brings it on, it is more commonly known as "entrapment" in other forms of the justice system, wonder who will be the first with this ***** to bring similar charges on him!!!!

[brembo]

There's no such thing as entrapment in Australia, no laws against it. What you can do it record the vehicle registration and time/date then make a complaint to Police about reckless driving of an on duty police officer.

Originally Posted by brembo

There's no such thing as entrapment in Australia, no laws against it. What you can do it record the vehicle registration and time/date then make a complaint to Police about reckless driving of an on duty police officer.

don't bother mentioning police officer...just get on your handsfree kit mobile, call the local police station (doesn't matter which one) and report the actions of a lunatic driver endangering other road users. Follow this up with a written reportto police HQ (again, without mentioning that you know it was a cop).

If enough people do this, then that cop will get hauled over the coals....
hehehe

[Lukeyson]

that s&*^ is crazy !!

[347Stroker]

If they werent out there trying to mislead the public, by putting race series plates on what is commonly know as a quick car, and having it unmarked touring Brisbane, do you really think they would do anything about it???
This vehicles sole purpose is to not look like a cop car, so people will want to race it.

The old advertising campaign, that was up here stated "Theres no such thing as safe speeding"

If thats the case, why do the QLD police force spend millions of dollars training drivers to drive fast, in pursuit, and buying fast cars for the job.
If there was no such thing as safe speeding, they would not be allowed to do it, as workcover would not process the claims for injury, if one were to arise from speeding, seeing that that job, would be classed as dangerous, and they would not insure the person for it.

Hence, from this I take, THERE IS A SUCH THING AS SAFE SPEEDING. Just not for you and I, we will get pinged for it.
But I guess there is one shining light......at least we dont get done up here for 3k over the limit like our poor brothers do in Victoria.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by 347stroker

If they werent out there trying to mislead the public, by putting race series plates on what is commonly know as a quick car, and having it unmarked touring Brisbane, do you really think they would do anything about it???
This vehicles sole purpose is to not look like a cop car, so people will want to race it.

The old advertising campaign, that was up here stated "Theres no such thing as safe speeding"

Maybe I'm getting old (though, I had the same thing happen to me while I was at a set of lights in a GT about 15 years ago) but I'm all for taking idiots off the road that will light them up as soon as another 'quick' car fills their mirrors.

I want cop cars lining up idiots at the lights, then pulling them over when they take the bait. I'm certainly sick of having buzz boxes wanting to line me up at the lights then abusing me at the next set when I'm not interested. Public streets aren't racetracks and those that use them that way should be removed using whatever means neccessary.

[needturbo6]

Originally Posted by 347stroker

If they werent out there trying to mislead the public, by putting race series plates on what is commonly know as a quick car, and having it unmarked touring Brisbane, do you really think they would do anything about it???
This vehicles sole purpose is to not look like a cop car, so people will want to race it.

The old advertising campaign, that was up here stated "Theres no such thing as safe speeding"

If thats the case, why do the QLD police force spend millions of dollars training drivers to drive fast, in pursuit, and buying fast cars for the job.
If there was no such thing as safe speeding, they would not be allowed to do it, as workcover would not process the claims for injury, if one were to arise from speeding, seeing that that job, would be classed as dangerous, and they would not insure the person for it.

Hence, from this I take, THERE IS A SUCH THING AS SAFE SPEEDING. Just not for you and I, we will get pinged for it.
But I guess there is one shining light......at least we dont get done up here for 3k over the limit like our poor brothers do in Victoria.

I havent ever thought of that before but it is EXACTLY RIGHT. You have put a good meaning to what speeding is about - more money for the government.

I do in most cases agree with some speed limits and abide by tehm at most times. I personally know and i think everybody knows is
-The right speed for the situation/s and there is such thing as safe speeding, its just that your speed needs to be limited to the road conditions.

One thing that should be called speeding is 80kmh in a 80kmh zone when its absolutly ****ing down in peak hour, the problem is though its still "supposedly safe".

On the other hand its illegal to go 120 in a 100 zone even though there are no cars around, the road is straight, completly dry and smooth with no bush on either side of the road.

Speed is what gets us to and from places, excessive speed is the thing thats unsafe... just my opinion and swaying a bit off topic

[MITCHAY]

yeah i reckon some speed limits are uneccessarily too slow. i mean 110 is the max right. i bet the majority dont even stick to that speed limit. im on my Ps in ACT so 10-15 over ill just lose 1 point. but if i go to NSW ill lose 3. i just have to stick to the limit. the kings highway goin to batemans bay from canberra has weird speed limits. on one bit you go from 100 to a 50 through a town. but this limit is also 50 on the way in and out where it should be at least 60 or 70. i get overtaken by dickheads in the 50 zone for sittn on the limit. it just causes congestion in some scenarios.

but then again if you raise the limit by 10-15 people will also do another 10-15 maybe even 20 over it aswell and instead of people used to doing 110 or so in a 100 they would now be doing 130 in a 110. if anyone catches the drift.

[neil101]

Just carry a digital vidieo camera with you and entrap him show how he's driving dangerously and speeding that would look good on acurrent affiar see the police comminisher explain that on :the_finge

[b2tf]

As much as i hate those kind of shows, thats the sort of stuff you should be getting Tintop (Ray Martin) onto. It IS entrapment, and while there is no official law against it, there would still be an outcry if people were to find out about it.

[347Stroker]

I am a little unsure as to if it really does not apply here in australia. As far as I know, if you are a tradie, and someone wants to try and make your quote cheaper, if they suggest cash, so as to avoid GST, if it turns out to be someone from the ATO, or worse, ASIC, they cant do a thing about it, because it is classed as entrapment, and I know this HOW?????
Because I may have been that person.......

[MITCHAY]

i posted in another thread bout this thing goin on. in canberra some cops do this in SSs and XRs. mate even said some cop had a HSV GTS trying to bait people. also heard that there is a black SS ute that is an undercover cop aswell. yeah it is tight as hell but if you go for it then your street racing so they can book you. the government would also back the boys in blue. i doubt a complaint would do much. i say even if you did got it on camera ACA wouldnt even play it cause they want to only show car hoons who arent police.

[347Stroker]

I hear ya, this is just utter crap, and I guess that the only reason that he didnt pull me was the fact that when he saw me, or checked my rego, that he found out that I was not some young bloke in an XR8, I was actually an older guy, that might know whats going on. I would hate to be one of the younger guys on the roads about brisbane.......not a hope in hell.

[MITCHAY]

yeah. lucky i guess. i was thinkn bout doin Ps off but as if im gonna pay to have the same rights as a full licence driver does, which is not have to worry bout being harassed

[MO]

I say rub the pricks out,they try to race...put em into the wall...lets see them try and prove you were'nt provocked.

[MITCHAY]

lol i think some cops have no problems putting themselves into walls bahhahahaha

[Blue Oval Mopar Man]

One year at the summernats in canberra, I was cruising Northbourne ave with a few mates ! I was stopped at a red light and some mates in two cars were behind me! A plain looking comodoore stopped beside me and was fooling around lurching forward , grinning at us stalling up and stuff . I got into the act a little , when the lights went green I accelerated hard , but , only to the 60 k speed limit , the commodoore whipped in behind me , forcing my mate behind the jam his brakes a bit ! The light went ot to the roof and I had just been pulled over ! This cop was all happy and grinning like a cheshire cat as he asked for my licience and told me he was doing me for dangerous driving !Even though i explained i never went over the speed limit ! Well , my mates behind me were videoing when all this happening , and got the whole shebang on tape ! When I was pulled over they did a u turn just up the road a little and stopped opposite us , still recording! This went on for a few minutes and one of the mates comes over to us and i tell him im being booked ! When he tells me he they have the whole thing on tape the cop changes to real ****ed off! Funny though , as i got a real stern talking to and the ticket he was half way through writing never got finnished , or given to me ! I wonder why that was?????

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Blue Oval Mopar Man

One year at the summernats in canberra, I was cruising Northbourne ave with a few mates ! I was stopped at a red light and some mates in two cars were behind me! A plain looking comodoore stopped beside me and was fooling around lurching forward , grinning at us stalling up and stuff . I got into the act a little , when the lights went green I accelerated hard , but , only to the 60 k speed limit , the commodoore whipped in behind me , forcing my mate behind the jam his brakes a bit ! The light went ot to the roof and I had just been pulled over ! This cop was all happy and grinning like a cheshire cat as he asked for my licience and told me he was doing me for dangerous driving !Even though i explained i never went over the speed limit ! Well , my mates behind me were videoing when all this happening , and got the whole shebang on tape ! When I was pulled over they did a u turn just up the road a little and stopped opposite us , still recording! This went on for a few minutes and one of the mates comes over to us and i tell him im being booked ! When he tells me he they have the whole thing on tape the cop changes to real ****ed off! Funny though , as i got a real stern talking to and the ticket he was half way through writing never got finnished , or given to me ! I wonder why that was?????

oh **** that northbourne avenue. It is a haven for cops which is why im always on the limit. Attracts a lot of street racers there and on the way in and out. Lets just say if you have a modded car and you cruise round there your bound to get pulled over at some point. My mate was in his 300ZX TT. Cop pulled him over saying he was street racing when he wasnt. He just drove off at the lights and cause of the car hes got they pulled him over. They searched inside it for god sake. Anyways he debated it and said take it to court cause his mates dad is a barrister. Never went any further cause they had nothing on him. Just pulled him over cause its an import and sounds good. If he wanted to he could of put the foot down and see you later cops. If he was street racing as if he would stop. Yeah I think hes thinking of selling his car and getting a bike lol

[Dez]

put the foot down and see ya later cops? lol, they'll catch up to him when he "stops" at the next tree or power pole and "waits" for them....


the copper lining people up in the Xr6T....well i can see both sides....if you're willing to race him, you're willing to race other people....so booking you isn't really unfair...but whinging that they are short of members etc to police areas and protect people, and then to send cops out to bait ppl is BS. maybe these guys are just rogue coppers getting their thrills by bookin people after they provoke them.....so who knows if thats what they've been told to do...

[MAD]

I dont see the issue???

If you're stupid enough to enter the race, then you deserve to be booked for it.

Whoopdie doo if the cop is playing tricks, trying to bait oyu....if you take the bait from the copper, obviously you will take the bait from another driver on the road, and deserve to be fined for it.

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by MADXF

I dont see the issue???

If you're stupid enough to enter the race, then you deserve to be booked for it.

Whoopdie doo if the cop is playing tricks, trying to bait oyu....if you take the bait from the copper, obviously you will take the bait from another driver on the road, and deserve to be fined for it.

Reverse the situation, and try & bait a cop car... You don't need a fortune cookie to tell you that this is fux0red...

-Dave-

[MrQuan]

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

fux0red

What's that mean? :sm_drool: Should I came back when I'm sober?

[mcflux]

lol it means "F***ed" in 1337 h@x0r speak :nutsycuck

[MAD]

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

Reverse the situation, and try & bait a cop car... You don't need a fortune cookie to tell you that this is fux0red...

-Dave-

How could anyone be stupid enough to bait a cop?

Besides its not really the point on whether it is a cop or not, its the simple fact of willingness to drag race on the streets.

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by MADXF

How could anyone be stupid enough to bait a cop?

Besides its not really the point on whether it is a cop or not, its the simple fact of willingness to drag race on the streets.

Yep, I totally agree with you mate, the streets are for cruising :

However I was highlighting the double standards here... Pointing out that if someone were to bait a cop car, they'd end up in deep doodoo. If a cop baits you though, and you fall for it, *you* end up in trouble and either way they get away with it. Not fair!

-Dave-

[MITCHAY]

i like the suggestion of taking the plates down of the unmarked car without saying it was a cop cause then they would disregard the complaint completely in my opinion.