Swastika on bonnet = trouble

Steve · 08-09-2006, 03:50 PM

I can't believe what I saw today. There was a dark grey Eunos driving through Clayton with a large swastika taped across the bonnet. WTF???

I understand this symbol has a different meaning in some cultures but if these guys weren't neo nazi's or something, you'd think they'd know enough not to display it like that.

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The Monty · 08-09-2006, 03:51 PM

I think its there choice to display whatever they want. I dont pick on everyone elses beliefs, including theres. But it is asking for trouble.

**thefargo** · 08-09-2006, 03:58 PM

was it a swastika, did the arms point clockwise or anticlockwise. Anticlockwise is the buddist(I think) symbol for peace, albeit not often used after the winter of 1945

Steve · 08-09-2006, 04:06 PM

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was it a swastika, did the arms point clockwise or anticlockwise. Anticlockwise is the buddist(I think) symbol for peace, albeit not often used after the winter of 1945

The top arm pointed right so I guess you could say clockwise.

08-09-2006, 04:04 PM

Yeah, it means peace and equality and things like that, Hitler reversed it and twisted it 45 degrees to mean hatred and superiorness.

Although it freaked me out a bit the first time I went into a Buddist temple, seeing it on the foreheads of the big Buddahs

uranium_death · 08-09-2006, 04:12 PM

I'd certainly hope so.

I am not a buddhist, but their beliefs I respect.

But if it was a swastika, then I'd spit on the car.

Enough said from me.

b2tf · 08-09-2006, 04:15 PM

Just asking for trouble. I think people who deliberately do stuff like this i.e. use offensive language, symbols etc just for shock value ought to be shocked themselves - with a car battery to the groin.

uranium_death · 08-09-2006, 04:17 PM

People who need to put such **** on their car probably haven't got any groin to speak of...nor a brain.

Hardtopxb · 08-09-2006, 04:19 PM

The swastika as used by the nazi's had its open face turning clockwise, and was not always turned at 45deg..

nugget378 · 08-09-2006, 05:48 PM

I quite like the iron cross on hotrods,each to there own....

VSSII · 08-09-2006, 06:27 PM

Hitler didn't design the swastika, it's actually quite old. Everyone's free to express themselves etc etc yadda yadda yadda.. BUT. If your views are so out of whack with the rest of the world as this then you have to be prepared to accept the consequences when people want to drag you from your car and beat you to a pulp. And the rest of us cheer them on.

uranium_death · 08-09-2006, 06:45 PM

The Swastika is only a symbol of the death of many jews...
I don't think genocide is a welcome thing on this forum, or anywhere else on Earth at that...

The Monty · 08-09-2006, 07:08 PM

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I don't think genocide is a welcome thing on this forum, or anywhere else on Earth at that...

Neither is paying out on other peoples beliefs. These people do exist, get over it. Each to there own mate.

Ohio XB · 09-09-2006, 01:16 PM

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Neither is paying out on other peoples beliefs. These people do exist, get over it. Each to there own mate.

Muslim extremists also exist and want anyone that is not Muslin dead. Should we that are not Muslim just get over that too?

I am putting up only links to these pictures so as not to post the pictures on the forum.

Buddhist version

Nazi version

Buddhists wouldn't put the symbol on their hood either. It's not a thought that would occur.

Steve

Keepleft · 09-09-2006, 01:36 PM

Twas also an ancient catholic symbol, this is perhaps for Mythbuster.

HLC · 09-09-2006, 02:43 PM

forgetting all the connotations etc, the Swastika is a GOOD looking symbol.

it looks great IMO.

BUT, it represented German facism, white power etc etc.

Being half german, im not exactly proud of whate germany did in the war, and it is a shame that the symbol became so evil. whatever...

i think there are much worse things than having someone display a swastika on their car.

Burning the Australian flag for example?

also one more thing. the swastika, before rotated, also represented the 4 L's. luck, love, light and life.

The Monty · 09-09-2006, 04:20 PM

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Muslim extremists also exist and want anyone that is not Muslin dead. Should we that are not Muslim just get over that too?
Steve

Point taken, but Ill still stand by what I said. I just dont see what the big deal is. Its only a Swastika. I think all leaders of all wars are as bad as each other. we should not just pick out one to hate them. Yes it represents hate, but we dont stop using the American flag because they nuked Japan, and Im pretty sure the effect was about the same, except Japan are still having after effects now. what happens in war stays in war. But I do understand where you are coming from, and I dont want this to turn into an argument. The question was, are they asking for trouble, and I think whoevers car it was, Yes they are asking for trouble.
Josh

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GlennBA · 09-09-2006, 04:29 PM

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Point taken, but Ill still stand by what I said. I just dont see what the big deal is.

If you were jewish you would

WOLF · 09-09-2006, 04:45 PM

censorship is a dangerous thing.... Hitler was accused of it in WWII, yet these days how are our governments any different? It's ironic that the German Government is the most hypocritical of them all!! They do everything in their power to supress everything from freedom of speech to a flag an individual wants to bare...Hell its illegal to even fly the German flag above your home over there.
Anyway, there is nothing wrong with being proud to be "proud" and if I want to wear the southern cross on my clothes or car or whatever and someone else wants to wear the swastika on his car...so be it mate

fordfuntastic · 08-09-2006, 07:56 PM

Bloody HELL its my car! Its actually meant to emphasise the identification of YELLOW in the ghettos!

Redrum · 08-09-2006, 07:58 PM

The nazi's stole/borrowed the swastika from the Tibetans whom use it as some sort of religious symbol. But people recognise in this day and age for what it stood for in the 30/40s.

nugget378 · 08-09-2006, 08:11 PM

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The nazi's stole/borrowed the swastika from the Tibetans whom use it as some sort of religious symbol. But people recognise in this day and age for what it stood for in the 30/40s.

You will also find it on ancient greek/roman art.....
Have a look for a resemblance on ancient shields, spartan I think???

Ghiadude · 08-09-2006, 08:04 PM

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Bloody HELL its my car! Its actually meant to emphasise the identification of YELLOW in the ghettos!

???? WTF????

XA-Coupe · 08-09-2006, 08:08 PM

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???? WTF????

I'll second that ......

Casper · 08-09-2006, 08:12 PM

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I'll second that ......

I'm guessing a lame joke. Yellow was the colour of the star of david patches the Jewish people were forced to wear.

fordfuntastic · 08-09-2006, 08:13 PM

Sorry Guys! I think Im going through a crisis at the moment! Im ****ed bloto! Damn booze killed my brother and Im depressed. Sorry I am missing him! Why am I drinkin? Bewcause we had many a good time! He wasnt Peter Brock but to me he was greater than that! Im really blue at the moment.....

RavenLS1 · 08-09-2006, 08:23 PM

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Sorry Guys! I think Im going through a crisis at the moment! Im ****ed bloto! Damn booze killed my brother and Im depressed. Sorry I am missing him! Why am I drinkin? Bewcause we had many a good time! He wasnt Peter Brock but to me he was greater than that! Im really blue at the moment.....

your alright mate, just wait a minute and think before pushing the submit post button.

P.S. condolices(spell) to you about your brother, its been a sad, sad week.

XA-Coupe · 08-09-2006, 08:23 PM

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Sorry Guys! I think Im going through a crisis at the moment! Im ****ed bloto! Damn booze killed my brother and Im depressed. Sorry I am missing him! Why am I drinkin? Bewcause we had many a good time! He wasnt Peter Brock but to me he was greater than that! Im really blue at the moment.....

Sorry to hear about your brother too, but perhaps typing on the forums isn't the best idea till you dry out a tad

Ghiadude · 08-09-2006, 08:20 PM

Sorry to hear about your brother.

XRated · 08-09-2006, 08:25 PM

I actually thought it originated much, much earlier and was used by Native American Indians - obviously with a completely different meaning to what Hitler gave it.

It certainly asks for trouble in this day and age.