Most talented drivers

**Polyal** · 18-09-2005, 06:42 PM

well this thread should be interesting...

As a disclaimer I must say that for any driver to get to a professional level is a huge achievement.

Who do you think are the most talented drivers in mainstream motorsport? (bikes, boats and other forms are not included, just cars!)

My vote goes to WRC drivers, mainly because of the vastly different surfaces they race on every round and he crazy speeds they do sideways around 99.9% of the turns.

A close second would be V8 Supercars, they are very old school compared to others, you really have to nurse them at times; not to mention the very close racing we have.

So, let the bickering begin!

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EDIT: Mods can you please fix up the spelling in the title..I let that one slip

18-09-2005, 07:07 PM

rally drivers are skilled as, going sideways and all on cliff and taking risks. i'd say f1 requires alot of skill as reaction time for these drivers are more quicker and crucial than other types of races. In the end they al require decent skill even drag racing. would shuey beat victor bray in doorslammers? no he wouldnt as he is not as skilled in that area.

aimzes · 18-09-2005, 07:37 PM

sorry.

pauljh74 · 18-09-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

rally drivers are skilled as, going sideways and all on cliff and taking risks. i'd say f1 requires alot of skill as reaction time for these drivers are more quicker and crucial than other types of races. In the end they al require decent skill even drag racing. would shuey beat victor bray in doorslammers? no he wouldnt as he is not as skilled in that area.

Victor Bray wouldn't even fit in an F1 car either

parawolf · 18-09-2005, 07:17 PM

I say me.... daily driving in Melbourne for a living for 3.5 years without accident or speeding fine.

Psycho Chicken · 18-09-2005, 07:22 PM

I've got a video of someone coming up Pikes Peak in the late 80's in a Pegeot. Anyone who's seen it will know he's either stupid or a bloody good driver.

**Polyal** · 18-09-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I've got a video of someone coming up Pikes Peak in the late 80's in a Pegeot. Anyone who's seen it will know he's either stupid or a bloody good driver.

I know the exact one you are talking about!..it is unbelievabe footage! I think he was in a 205 WRC car..crazy!

Psycho Chicken · 18-09-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I know the exact one you are talking about!..it is unbelievabe footage! I think he was in a 205 WRC car..crazy!

The thing I can't get over is when he takes his hand off the wheel to block the sun out.

XD-Machine · 18-09-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

The thing I can't get over is when he takes his hand off the wheel to block the sun out.

got a link to this video. i would love to see it

**Polyal** · 18-09-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XD-Machine

got a link to this video. i would love to see it

I doubt you will find it on the web..im searching with limewire now; ive found a 405 turbo 16 vid, but I dont think its that one :(

wulos · 18-09-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I've got a video of someone coming up Pikes Peak in the late 80's in a Pegeot. Anyone who's seen it will know he's either stupid or a bloody good driver.

The driver in question was Ari Vartinen, in a Peugeot 205 specifically developed for the Pikes Peak hill climb(& other hill climbs like it)
The name of the clip you are referring to would be 'Climb Dance' & was distributed by Peugeot at the time as a bit of advertising for them.
Tis an exceptional piece of videotography of some absolutely amazing driving. From running at such high speeds to letting the tail end hang off in free space above 1000's of feet drop.
Tis even more suprising to note that Kiwi Rod Millen who holds the record for the Pikes Peak climb is 30 odd seconds quicker then the run in that video.

4.9 EF Futura · 20-09-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wulos

The driver in question was Ari Vartinen, in a Peugeot 205 specifically developed for the Pikes Peak hill climb(& other hill climbs like it)
The name of the clip you are referring to would be 'Climb Dance' & was distributed by Peugeot at the time as a bit of advertising for them.
Tis an exceptional piece of videotography of some absolutely amazing driving. From running at such high speeds to letting the tail end hang off in free space above 1000's of feet drop.
Tis even more suprising to note that Kiwi Rod Millen who holds the record for the Pikes Peak climb is 30 odd seconds quicker then the run in that video.

That is, without doubt, the most incredible piece of motorsport footage I've ever seen. This is the full version that goes for about 10 minutes, yes?

I agree rally drivers are the most impressive to watch.

But no one's mentioned the good ol' boys of nascar?? Unlike WRC and F1, these guys actually engage a clutch and manually select a gear... how primative;) Not sure if anyone here is into the nextel cup/busch series, but watching 40 cars come into turn 3 at Atlanta doing 320km/hr with about 5mm of room either side sure gets the heart pumping. And if oval racing not your cup o tea, watkins glen and infineon raceway provide the same stupidity on a road course ;)

mickey t · 20-09-2005, 12:48 PM

anyone at the top of their game is good enough for me.

Webber once told me that F1 and WRC were like tennis and squash.

they're sort of the same thing, but not quite...

and whoever it was that said rally drivers drove around problems rather than developing a better mousetrap clearly hasn't had much involvement in the sport...

ELAUBA · 20-09-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey t

and whoever it was that said rally drivers drove around problems rather than developing a better mousetrap clearly hasn't had much involvement in the sport...

Hear, Hear!

There's people good and bad at car development in all forms of motorsports, but rally drivers get exposed to a much wider variety of conditions, so they are generally better able to adapt pretty quickly to sudden changes in the conditions or the car.

Apparently development and feedback is one of Chris Atkinson's strong suits and the engineers love him for it. I'm told he is also better able to actually explain what he's feeling in the car and what he wants from it than smany of the old hands (i.e. current established WRC works drivers).

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 19-09-2005, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I've got a video of someone coming up Pikes Peak in the late 80's in a Pegeot. Anyone who's seen it will know he's either stupid or a bloody good driver.

Sounds like Arie Vartinan ( Not sure if it spelt right )

BA GT-HO · 18-09-2005, 07:23 PM

WRC always leaves me shaking my head when you watch some of the stages they compete on. They are always inches from a huge shunt.

F1 is all about reacting quickly and being consistant. The days of the dangerous high speed tracks with no run off such as the old 'Ring and Imola pre chicanes are gone so there is much more room for errors, and maybe the driving skill is not as high as it used to be because of the driver aids.

Watching some IRL videos had me thinking they are highly skilled running so close to each other on the superspeed ways at 220MPH. Some of the moves they pull are crazy. (3 wide into corners inches apart.)

My vote goes to WRC.

Melz · 18-09-2005, 07:29 PM

The truck driver nicknamed 'stink' that came to my house the other day.. bloody good at reversing down a ****y little side street, without hitting my gate posts, had about 2 inches to spare on each side.. LEGEND

EL_futuraistic · 18-09-2005, 07:42 PM

I would have to agree with WRC. F1 drivers are very fit and skilled also, but i think that punting a vehicle through the forrest at warp speed without making any mistakes would be far more challenging than going round a track.

But the most "balls" award would have to goto the MOTOGP riders.

Melz · 18-09-2005, 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=EL_futuraistic] But the most "balls" award would have to goto the MOTOGP riders.[/QUOTE}

Especially after todays efforts with that huge crash, and the guy walked away!!!!

**Polyal** · 18-09-2005, 07:50 PM

oi!...do I have to qoute myself, no bikes!....lol

Hmm, should of done a poll. Still looks like WRC is way in front.

aimzes · 18-09-2005, 07:55 PM

s**t sorry mate. lol i didnt read that bit.

obviously rally.

Paris Hilton · 18-09-2005, 07:53 PM

WRC and Truckies.

**Kingsley** · 18-09-2005, 07:56 PM

Rally drivers.

MrQuan · 18-09-2005, 08:03 PM

See that dude *just* miss the tree on rally today? I ducked just from watching the TV, he must've $h!t himself!

Rally drivers.

calais · 18-09-2005, 08:10 PM

Ari Vatanen, pikes peak Peugeot 405 turbo.... the greatest rally video ever shot, shows the true skill required to be a professional, he drives one handed to block the sun, he slides the car within inches of sure death, one of the cameras gets taken out by a rock and all you can hear is the scream of the turbo and the gravel being thrown about... i taped it on channel 9's sportsworld back in the day with Alan Jones.... And all with no commentary!

Psycho Chicken · 18-09-2005, 08:19 PM

66mb should be the one, that's the size I've got.

Qwikcorty · 18-09-2005, 08:21 PM

http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=152

gotta sign up, but only takes a minute to do.

**Polyal** · 18-09-2005, 08:22 PM

its a 405? I could have sworn it was a 205...either way its unreal! 65% done..come ooonnnn.

Qwikcorty · 18-09-2005, 08:25 PM

yeah 205, never mind that link much easier to type in climb_dance into limewire/kazaa and much faster.

MrQuan · 18-09-2005, 08:36 PM

I'm only getting a 3Kbps download speed on my 1.5Mbps connection from that racingflix.com site :(

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