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Old 30-11-2020, 11:52 AM   #1
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Got a curly one. Couple of emails to a Gmail account, from a UK Yahoo address that I don’t recognise. Both have attached .jpgs, one HDR. Headers check out as “normal”.

The kicker? I punched the Yahoo email address into a dummy text address line and it comes up as belonging to an iPhone/iPad/iMac as it’s immediately configured as an outgoing iMessage.

I’ve seen the scams where an incoming message is purportedly an iMessage - but the giveaway with them is that a reply isn’t. The sending address is not “weird” nor the email titles. They don’t come up on a thorough Googling, but that’s neither here nor there beyond dispelling the bleeding obvious.

Any suggestions on “safer” ways to dig deeper in case it is legitimate?
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Old 30-11-2020, 01:01 PM   #2
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i've been getting some totally bogus emails , lately my "apple ID" is insecure an i'm going to get a refund, i don,t click the links and junk the email, but they keep resending them, any way i don't even use apple stuff.

plus i got some weird messages on my phone, claiming my applications are going to be rejected??, no name from sender?? then they build it up to a "cut off date" and then i,m in trouble,
just scammers i reckon.

if it looks bogus , dodgy, it probably is and junk the email.

maybe you should check it out CB, maybe you've won a million dollars

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Old 30-11-2020, 01:22 PM   #3
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It was none of those usual type things. They get binned straight away.

In the end I ran a ruler over the probabilities, based on some details.
  • HDR photos - Apple thing
  • Email address linked to an Apple device
  • Time of sending was close to photo (jpg) time stamp and plausible UK time
So I opened one. Just some “here I am at Black Rock” images. Suspect someone’s email typing got autocorrected.
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Old 30-11-2020, 01:26 PM   #4
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Got a curly one. Couple of emails to a Gmail account, from a UK Yahoo address that I don’t recognise. Both have attached .jpgs, one HDR. Headers check out as “normal”.

The kicker? I punched the Yahoo email address into a dummy text address line and it comes up as belonging to an iPhone/iPad/iMac as it’s immediately configured as an outgoing iMessage.

I’ve seen the scams where an incoming message is purportedly an iMessage - but the giveaway with them is that a reply isn’t. The sending address is not “weird” nor the email titles. They don’t come up on a thorough Googling, but that’s neither here nor there beyond dispelling the bleeding obvious.

Any suggestions on “safer” ways to dig deeper in case it is legitimate?
What is the email address? No such thing as a email address for iphone etc. It might be the url style ie mailto://

They can also use images to track whether you have opened an email. By using a unique name for the image ie http://someserver../i/2fhheh4h4.jgp where the jpg name is unique and only associated with that one email that has been sent. If the distance server sees a request for that image then it knows that you have opened it. Most mail clients will block that sort of behaviour.

Safest thing is to ignore the email
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Old 30-11-2020, 01:39 PM   #5
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I was referring to when people set up an Apple device with ways other than a phone number to reach them in messaging (as opposed to email). Quite a lot of people unthinkingly use their go-to email address as an alternative. (And if they do, they’re often still opted into FaceTime calls to that email as well!)

Being that all of these checked out, I figured they were either an astoundingly stupid scammer with a new phone or a fumble-fingers.

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No such thing as a email address for iphone etc.

Yes there is. You can (and by default do) assign an email address that can send and receive iMessage and Facetime as though it's a phone number.
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lol reminds me of James Vech

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lol reminds me of James Vech

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4QsIQOevMLg
i've seen this before, its pretty funny,
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Heads up on a paypal fake sms.

【PayPal】Dear Customer, some unsafe activities were reported on your account. For your safety, please regain access to your account at [url]https://paypal-safetylogin.help/?paypal[/.... don't click it!

Sounds like a smishing scam...
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Heads up on a paypal fake sms.

【PayPal】Dear Customer, some unsafe activities were reported on your account. For your safety, please regain access to your account at [url]https://paypal-safetylogin.help/?paypal[/.... don't click it!

Sounds like a smishing scam...
i just want to second this, i got a fake paypal email message. it looked like the real deal, however, CHECK THE FROM, ADDRESS. and don't click anything.

to double checked this , and i signed into paypal, and no messages had been sent.
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