2020 Toyota HiLux

[DFB FGXR6]

https://www.carexpert.com.au/news/20...-ute-revealed/

New styling.
Revised suspension.
20 kW and 50 nm more power and torque.
Increased towing capacity.

[Franco Cozzo]

About time they upped the balls under the hood on those things.

Yes I'm aware they're usually the countries top selling car but that doesn't mean its good

[Sprintey]

Quick glance at dash thumbnail - ah, that's where the outgoing Yaris dash went...
2.8 with more power, that would be handy in Prado
Is 300 to get this 2.8?

[Yellow_Festiva]

They have been way underpowered for so long.

The 2.2 diesel in the Hyundai / Kia trumped them up until very recently.

I guess when you are clearly the market leader no point trying to fix what ain't broken.

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[Bossxr8]

Yet they torque limit the manual to 420nm, when the auto has 500.

The dish wheels on one of the models are a dead ringer for the PXII XLT wheels. Nearly identical.

[Vesper Martini]

My mates current model SR5 has the most rigid suspension that combined with the terrible hands free microphone they have make it impossible to talk on bumpy roads.
the better suspension was a must, the Torque now brings it up to spec and the towing upped to 3500kg inline with the others (I still think that's an absurd amount to tow with a towball)
The competition has given Hilux a kick in the pants - it still needs more improvements for the vehicle which is our best seller??

[Charliewool]

Why no 4L V6 petrol for Aust?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Why no 4L V6 petrol for Aust?

Because Australia loves the slow wheezy Thailux.

I've only ever worked on 3x 1GRFE Hilux before, there wasn't that many sold they go alright and they're not too bad on fuel on the highway, easy to work on too.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Why no 4L V6 petrol for Aust?

It was dropped years ago because it only made up less than 2% of sales.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It was dropped years ago because it only made up less than 2% of sales.

My dad (in Melbourne) got one in 2007 for his business. Still has it. I took it off-raiding when I was there two months ago. It’s got 330,000km now and still drives like it did the day he bought it. Since I didn’t drive it gradually in between, I think my assessment is fair. Especially as I’m not a Toyota fanboy at all (see my controversial post in the “Overrated Cars” thread. It’s quick, torquey and reliable. 16L/100km would be bad for a full-size American V8 pickup, so it’s not exactly economical. Though my usage was based on off-roading and racing them through the Black Spur. But it makes no sense in getting rid of it because the demand has pushed diesel prices up and petrol values down. To the point where buying or keeping a petrol one makes more sense. The 3.5 V6 Atkinson engine replaced the 4.0 in the Tacoma, which is not as torquey, but is a lot more efficient.

All that being said, I think the engine choices in the next gen Ranger sound a lot more exciting.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Why no 4L V6 petrol for Aust?

As above nobody buys them in petrol.

You get the odd rant on this forum from somebody disjointed they cant get their twin cab in a quicker petrol, some even want a V8?

But reality says nobody would buy it. these things are designed for work not play.

[naddis01]

The game has moved on from the 4L Hilux. If Ford offered us the 2.3 Ecoboost like the US Ranger, I'd be all over it. There is a growing interest in petrol 4x4s. People are over Dpfs, EGRs, adblue and $1200 injectors.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by naddis01

The game has moved on from the 4L Hilux. If Ford offered us the 2.3 Ecoboost like the US Ranger, I'd be all over it. There is a growing interest in petrol 4x4s. People are over Dpfs, EGRs, adblue and $1200 injectors.

The rumoured hybrid sounds even better again... 270kW and 680Nm and 3L/100km.

[Wretched]

Still very meh

[GCRXR6]

The thing looks inspired by Ford.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by GCRXR6

The thing looks inspired by Ford.

Stunned into action by Ford, they only did what they had to with the 2.8
to match the Ranger 2.0 diesel‘S power and torque, not a lot of effort on
the engine side but maybe it’s not a big deal to Hilux buyers anyway.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Stunned into action by Ford, they only did what they had to with the 2.8
to match the Ranger 2.0 diesel‘S power and torque, not a lot of effort on
the engine side but maybe it’s not a big deal to Hilux buyers anyway.

The 2.8 will look anaemic again pretty soon anyway. Toyota always playing catch up.

It’s still 7kw down on an engine with 0.8 litres less capacity.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The 2.8 will look anaemic again pretty soon anyway. Toyota always playing catch up.

It’s still 7kw down on an engine with 0.8 litres less capacity.

Apparently the all new Hilux and V6 diesel is not here until about 2023.
If that's true then Ford needs to hustle with the NG V6 Diesel Ranger

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by jpd80

If that's true then Ford needs to hustle with the NG V6 Diesel Ranger

When is that due? All the talk was late this year or early next year but lately it sounds more like late 21 or more likely 2022.

[GCRXR6]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Stunned into action by Ford, they only did what they had to with the 2.8
to match the Ranger 2.0 diesel‘S power and torque, not a lot of effort on
the engine side but maybe it’s not a big deal to Hilux buyers anyway.

Yeah. I meant it looks like a Ford.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by 4stanger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz_twBApgZY
If V6 and power is the answer, How come the V6 amarok and mb x class, sell F. All here, in comparison to all the other D/cabs?

V6 makes up the biggest slice of Amarok sales though. Like 70%. Proves that if people are given the choice they will take the bigger engine.

They all know australians love bigger engines. It’s the reason amg only bothers selling the higher power v8 S models like c63S and e63S. They don’t bother selling the non S models cause they know we want the more powerful ones.

[DFB FGXR6]

The lack of rear seat airbags would also remove the Amarok from many buyers list, especially if the vehicle will be used as a kid carrier.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

V6 makes up the biggest slice of Amarok sales though. Like 70%. Proves that if people are given the choice they will take the bigger engine.

They all know australians love bigger engines. It’s the reason amg only bothers selling the higher power v8 S models like c63S and e63S. They don’t bother selling the non S models cause they know we want the more powerful ones.

In the Ranger the 5 cylinder seemed to always the more popular choice for private buyers. Anyhow according to people on here the small engines are good enough because people buy them when there's no other choice.

[Tassie f100]

Why does anyone want( need) 200 kw in any ute that handles like a boat?

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Why does anyone want( need) 200 kw in any ute that handles like a boat?

Do you even need to ask that?

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Do you even need to ask that?

Well you tell me why they do!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Well you tell me why they do!

Why does a ferrari need 500kw?

If you have something heavy, that can tow and carry heavy things, why wouldn’t it need more power and torque? Kinda obvious i would have thought

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Why does a ferrari need 500kw?

If you have something heavy, that can tow and carry heavy things, why wouldn’t it need more power and torque? Kinda obvious i would have thought

Well most intelligent people drive and tow to the abilities of the tow vehicle,there is probably nothing that makes 200+ kw any better than 120 kw does

[FlipXW]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Why does anyone want( need) 200 kw in any ute that handles like a boat?

I never raced my GT Falcon but I sure loved feeding it on freeway on ramps. If I could buy a 300kw dual cab I would. Love the practicality of them just hate how slow they are. One day.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Why does anyone want( need) 200 kw in any ute that handles like a boat?

They still manage to have the highest average speed of all vehicles on the road. Even with one of the lowest power to weight ratios and worst handling