Vfacts March 2020

[Syndrome]

Preliminary figures in linked article.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/840053/...rending&slot=0

[Adamz Ghia]

Not as ugly as I expected, April figures will be very interesting. For Toyota to grow sales again is stunning in this climate. Here’s been reports and innuendo of shutdowns for a month now, I’d have thought most people would t have been willing to spend money on or finance new cars.

[jpd80]

Holden: 5000 (+30%)
Ford: 4,800 (-21%)

By golly, Holden had a super strong month selling down the last of their stock
Ford down a bit for sure but maybe the real market hits are still coming....

[au2000]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Holden: 5000 (+30%)
Ford: 4,800 (-21%)

By golly, Holden had a super strong month selling down the last of their stock
Ford down a bit for sure but maybe the real market hits are still coming....

Absolutely... The real kick is sadly still to come, April through to at least October I'd say with the restrictions in place, mass loss of jobs etc, indiscriminate spending has stopped,
Everyone is now looking at their bank balances and really questioning how they spend in case the worst case scenario happens and they loose their jobs,
I'd not be surprised if some of the smaller sellers actually take their bat n ball n go home tbh.

[Ford17]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Holden: 5000 (+30%)
Ford: 4,800 (-21%)

By golly, Holden had a super strong month selling down the last of their stock
Ford down a bit for sure but maybe the real market hits are still coming....

Holden's February orders were apparently invoiced in March, so the discounting could take effect.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/the-re...trackLink=SMH3

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Holden: 5000 (+30%)
Ford: 4,800 (-21%)

By golly, Holden had a super strong month selling down the last of their stock
Ford down a bit for sure but maybe the real market hits are still coming....

Reminds me of that 'Going out of business' store in Adam Sandler's 'You don't mess with the Zohan'.

It's not actually closing it's just good marketing for sales

Except Holden is actually done

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Reminds me of that 'Going out of business' store in Adam Sandler's 'You don't mess with the Zohan'.

It's not actually closing it's just good marketing for sales

Except Holden is actually done

Reminds me of a local rug store that is known for having more closing down sales than Elvis had hits

A couple of times a year, without fail. I reckon i've seen at least 10-15 closing down sales at the place over the last decade.

[GCRXR6]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Reminds me of a local rug store that is known for having more closing down sales than Elvis had hits

A couple of times a year, without fail. I reckon i've seen at least 10-15 closing down sales at the place over the last decade.

That would be an apparent Persian carpet mob? a lot like a kitchen mob often having a liquidation sale.

[Syndrome]

https://www.caradvice.com.au/840505/...rending&slot=0

-18% for the month makes Toyota's performance even more impressive.

[vbvbvb088]

Originally Posted by GCRXR6

That would be an apparent Persian carpet mob? a lot like a kitchen mob often having a liquidation sale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5psRMoXm2g

[vbvbvb088]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Reminds me of a local rug store that is known for having more closing down sales than Elvis had hits

A couple of times a year, without fail. I reckon i've seen at least 10-15 closing down sales at the place over the last decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5psRMoXm2g

[Eurotrash]

I can honestly see the car market being in a slump for at least the next 12 months in Australia. Regardless of when restrictions are slowly lifted, it's not like there will be a lot of people that will be going out to buy a new car. You need a job, stable employment and a financial system willing to lend people money in a dull economy. Will probably take 2 years to see the Australian new car market back up to the levels of a million plus market.

April is going to be a shocker and it'll be very interesting to see the figures from all the manufacturers.

But will peoples buying habits change? Will Utes and SUV continue to rule? Will the luxury brands see their sales and market share decline? How many brands, if any, will exit the Australian market? Will some brands cull their model lineups? Will we see an uptake in small car sales (Fiesta and Focus size) and the re-emergence of base spec trim levels to entice more people to buy a new car? Will EV's sales grow or go backwards?

Definitely interesting times ahead that's for sure.

[Eurotrash]

For us, we didn't notice a decline until the middle of the third week of March and then definitely in the last week of March. The last few days of March and then these first few days of April, it's like someone has closed the gates, it's literally been a trickle.

Maybe the March figures only reflect the first 3 weeks of the month? April will be very interesting indeed and could be worse than March, especially when these restrictions are for the next 3 months at least.

I work for a multi-franchise dealer group and it really has been devastating, with the amount of people either retrenched or stood down without pay until further notice. I've been one of the lucky ones. I'm still working, but now on a roster.

Even though the lockdown laws aren't as strict here in SA when compared to VIC, NSW and QLD, people aren't going out and the last thing they're buying, is a new car.

[Smoke Pursuit]

The amount of Holden dealer employees, family and friends buying Holden's is pretty big too at the moment. Most dealers are giving staff / friends of staff 90% of the bonus which means they are getting some cracking deals.



April will be a shocking month, a few dealers in QLD have shut the doors, one Mercedes dealership has closed till 1 June.

[Poetic Justice]

Actually, for the dealership here we were showing excellent signs in the first 2 weeks of March - in fact we were tracking well ahead of what was required. I suspect this was the case for the market in general - and the numbers show this.

[Bossxr8]

Next month will be interesting, and the months after.

[Bossxr8]

March is also the last month of the japanese financial year. So usually a good month for Japanese brands before a fall off in april.

The whole Jeep range was outsold by the Ram. 262 vs 258

Jeep may as well pack up and go home. Brand is cancerous.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

March is also the last month of the japanese financial year. So usually a good month for Japanese brands before a fall off in april.

The whole Jeep range was outsold by the Ram. 262 vs 258

Jeep may as well pack up and go home. Brand is cancerous.

Jeep just signed its dealers to a 10 year franchise agreement.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

Jeep just signed its dealers to a 10 year franchise agreement.

Poor bastards. The writing should be on the wall for them.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Poor bastards. The writing should be on the wall for them.

258 cars for the month must be concerning for them...



Bad publicity and car sales don't mix well together it seems.



Wonder how Ashton Wood from Destroy my Jeep is going


Bet they wish they gave him a new car all those years ago for free, maybe even 2!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

258 cars for the month must be concerning for them...



Bad publicity and car sales don't mix well together it seems.



Wonder how Ashton Wood from Destroy my Jeep is going


Bet they wish they gave him a new car all those years ago for free, maybe even 2!

It's funny. Focus sells 200 odd cars a month, and people say Ford should drop it cause it's not selling. Imagine selling that same amount across a whole range of vehicles.

And so people are aware, Ford are happy selling 200 odd Focus a month cause they are profitable. Not sure Jeep would be in the same boat. You'd have to imagine they are doing pretty heavy discounting just trying to get cars out the door. Worked well for Holden

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

March is also the last month of the japanese financial year. So usually a good month for Japanese brands before a fall off in april.

The whole Jeep range was outsold by the Ram. 262 vs 258

Jeep may as well pack up and go home. Brand is cancerous.

Rams are as reliable as Jeeps. Give it a few years and Ram sales will nose dive.

Jeep make good cars, but they just don't build them very well. Having said that I have had 2 jeeps over 100,000kms of driving with no issues.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Rams are as reliable as Jeeps. Give it a few years and Ram sales will nose dive.

Jeep make good cars, but they just don't build them very well. Having said that I have had 2 jeeps over 100,000kms of driving with no issues.

Have been told the facelifted Ram will be available next year but the price for a Laramie 1500 will be closer to what we pay for the current 2500. So it won’t be a cheap rig and this was before the dollar tanked against the US.

Good to see Mustang going strong. I’ve had a few through Hertz rental although the last few months Ive noticed less availability in Perth Melbourne and Sydney while daily hire has increased in price by around 50%.
This was before the current dramas set in and we were free to fly wherever.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

March is also the last month of the japanese financial year. So usually a good month for Japanese brands before a fall off in april.

The whole Jeep range was outsold by the Ram. 262 vs 258

Jeep may as well pack up and go home. Brand is cancerous.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Chrysler Jeep don’t exit Australia like Holden. I think the Australian auto market is going to have a big cleanse over the next few years. Too many brands and too costly to compete here with mainstream 5 year warranty and no money to be made out of finance. Very sad really.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Wouldn’t surprise me if Chrysler Jeep don’t exit Australia like Holden.

They quietly discontinued the Dodge brand in Australia about a year ago & nobody noticed.

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

I think the Australian auto market is going to have a big cleanse over the next few years. Too many brands and too costly to compete here with mainstream 5 year warranty and no money to be made out of finance. Very sad really.

It is very sad but the Aussie auto market has been bloated with too many brands for years. It's time for more to leave & let the others maintain a reasonable living. It's currently not sustainable, too many cars are been sold at very slender margins & long warranties.

Dr Terry

[Franco Cozzo]

Hopefully Honda goes first

[csv8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Hopefully Honda goes first

No : all the Chinese cars must go first. Great Wall, MG, LDV, Haval etc.

[csv8]

Once job losses from Covind 19 really hit, car sales will really dive. Not a good time for any car dealer. Or any of us. We must all come together and weather the chinese storm.

[DFB FGXR6]

Ford Numbers -

Ford EcoSport 4
Ford Endura 80
Ford Escape 227
Ford Everest 583
Ford Fiesta 4
Ford Focus 280
Ford Mondeo 24
Ford Mustang 309
Ford Ranger 4X2 161
Ford Ranger 4X4 2,947
Ford Transit Custom 142
Ford Transit Heavy 96
Ford Total 4,857

Not a bad month for Everest.

[Rob 351]

Mustang just keeps on selling also. Quite remarkable.