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Old 16-01-2017, 11:15 AM   #1
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Default Dodge Challenger Demon

So apparently the Hellcat isn't enough for Dodge.

They're releasing the Demon, set to have even more power.

Part of their marketing is this website with videos. There's a countdown to every video's release, building up the excitement (or at least that would be their plan)

http://www.dodge.com/en/ifyouknowyouknow/
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Old 16-01-2017, 12:12 PM   #2
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Can't have to much Mopar, just need more here....
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Old 16-01-2017, 12:54 PM   #3
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More win on the way.
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Old 16-01-2017, 01:09 PM   #4
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I was over my last dodge/mopar test drive pretty quick.
The gobs of power sensation quickly wears off once you realize its suspension is so crap it can never actually use its sheer grunt for anything other than wheel spin.

Plus the one i drove couldn't drift/slide for **** either. Kept wanting to grip up mid corner or just spin out?
Yet when i wanted it to grip up in a straight line and go it wouldn't. So like i said i got pretty bored pretty quick.
I value /need my license too much for wheel spin every lights and going nowhere.

But that could of just been the one i drove.
I prefera car with a better chassis/suspension package.
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I was over my last dodge/mopar test drive pretty quick.
The gobs of power sensation quickly wears off once you realize its suspension is so crap it can never actually use its sheer grunt for anything other than wheel spin.

Plus the one i drove couldn't drift/slide for **** either. Kept wanting to grip up mid corner or just spin out?
Yet when i wanted it to grip up in a straight line and go it wouldn't. So like i said i got pretty bored pretty quick.
I value /need my license too much for wheel spin every lights and going nowhere.

But that could of just been the one i drove.
I prefera car with a better chassis/suspension package.
All you guys saying it can't put the power down, yet it does mid 3's to 100km/h and 1/4 in 11.5, all with street tyres
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Old 16-01-2017, 01:33 PM   #6
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(or at least that would be their plan)

http://www.dodge.com/en/ifyouknowyouknow/
The video they have now is pretty cringe worthy.

Reminds me of the awful 'hardcore' PC gamer marketing of 15 years ago.
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Old 16-01-2017, 01:49 PM   #7
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I think the Challenger is one of the best looking cars around, but honestly, I wouldn't want the hellcat, let alone whatever this demon is going to be.

I'd take one of the lower model V8s.

I have a mate in the US with a Challenger, not sure which motor he got, but no problems with wheel spin, etc. Does fine even in the snow and ice.
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Old 16-01-2017, 05:04 PM   #8
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I think the Challenger is one of the best looking cars around, but honestly, I wouldn't want the hellcat, let alone whatever this demon is going to be.

I'd take one of the lower model V8s.

I have a mate in the US with a Challenger, not sure which motor he got, but no problems with wheel spin, etc. Does fine even in the snow and ice.
Was the Challenger a V6
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Old 16-01-2017, 02:18 PM   #9
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Havent driven the charger in V8 guise but the v6 was a real surprise packet maybe had too low expectations but handling and steering was above any other brands hertz v6 hire car special I have driven. They were based on a Merc global platform floor pan and basic suspension design (E Class and C Class) so while would be a stretch to call it related to Mercedes it does benefit from some of their engineering input.

Have a Jeep SRT and the 6.4 Hemi is a cracker of an engine, yesterday drove 800Klm in it and with the eco button on drops back to 4cly at cruise and returned even better economy than my FGX XR8 and considering both a weight and aero disadvantage is pretty damn good

The rumor I have heard is Australia wont get any of the current generation dodge cars as they are end of cycle and next generation is based on the Alfa Giulia platform which will bring a level of RHD engineering already completed and as such any moves to make RHD market cars will be post the platform change.
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Old 16-01-2017, 03:49 PM   #10
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They are good for burnouts but not much else. 2 tonne whale. NTTAWWT
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Old 16-01-2017, 09:46 PM   #11
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2 tonne whale or not I'd buy it in a heartbeat if they sold them here..pure muscle
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Old 17-01-2017, 08:20 AM   #12
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nice irony that you are all saying heavy over powered and wont go around corners yet thats the exact commentary many say about a falcon also :P

There is no perfect car, so better to have a car that makes you smile in doing what ever its good for
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Old 17-01-2017, 01:27 PM   #13
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nice irony that you are all saying heavy over powered and wont go around corners yet thats the exact commentary many say about a falcon also :P

There is no perfect car, so better to have a car that makes you smile in doing what ever its good for
They are still at least 150 to 200 kg heavier than a Falcon V8.
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Old 23-01-2017, 06:21 PM   #14
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They are still at least 150 to 200 kg heavier than a Falcon V8.
Doesnt make the Falcon any more a handler. Same deal really.
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nice irony that you are all saying heavy over powered and wont go around corners yet thats the exact commentary many say about a falcon also :P

There is no perfect car, so better to have a car that makes you smile in doing what ever its good for
^ THIS ^

The phrase "Over powered/wont corner" is also interchangable with "Oh no, did I leave my tampons in my husbands handbag?" - and thats from the men.

What corner in Australia exists where this beast wont be able to take at full legal speed limit? Oh, but race tracks exist you say? And I suppose you take your lower powered well cornering VW Golf there then?

Here is how the Hellcat corners:
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Old 17-01-2017, 10:30 AM   #16
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Kinda pointless considering even the Hellcat has trouble putting down all the power.
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Old 17-01-2017, 11:00 AM   #17
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Is that what a muscle car is all about?

Way too much power and seriously dangerous.

Anything less takes the fun out of the driving experience.

I'll take mine in black.
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Old 17-01-2017, 11:14 AM   #18
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What complete and utter RUBBISH !!!!! Mods please delete, what a waste of space
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Old 17-01-2017, 11:14 AM   #19
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No such thing as too much power, as long as you respect it....
Jeff lutz street drives his 1500hp drag car during the hot rod power cruise remember??

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Love the name throwback to the Dodge Demon:

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Old 17-01-2017, 02:29 PM   #21
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No idea of this thing.
But the one i drove was hopless.
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Old 17-01-2017, 03:48 PM   #22
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The rumours are that this will be a wide body Challenger... so they are able to fit wider Tires on the it... so hopefully more grip.

The original reason for no wide body and wide tires was to keep costs down and allow it have a some what low entry point.. its about $60k US for one of these in the states (this was stated by Ralph Gillies. but as the model continues on for extended period, the have needed to update to stay relevant, as originally the next stuff was due 2017/18.. but as all FCA products of late, it was delayed to 18/19/20 for next gen Challenger / Charger / 300.

This Challenger is the closest car to a true "muscle car" the mustang Camaro are now sports cars.
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Looks like good fun!! Bet those tyres (tires) arent cheap though!!
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Old 17-01-2017, 07:00 PM   #24
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Not sure how legit this is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajrQttQ71yg

skip to 1:28 for some very basic pics.

Rumours are that 1500 will be made. Wider fenders and skirts so it can wear some massive rubber, along with a retro bonnet scoop. Horsepower, anywhere between 800-1000....and a race-fuel button?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6hjhFuQIbo

Weight reduction no doubt. Throw in wider tyres and more HP, will pull some serious times.
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In black plz

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Would an old Hellcat tide you over until the Demon arrives?

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...SSE-AD-4329212

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Let's face it...at least they know how to advertise cars in the USA, unlike Ford and Holden here who are hamstrung by nanny-state advertising restrictions, or just plain laziness.
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https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...SSE-AD-4329212
Wow that is delicious. But $200k.. no thankyou. There must be some way to shoehorn that wicked drivetrain into a stock looking BA or FG Falcon, for the ultimate sleeper.
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Wow that is delicious. But $200k.. no thankyou. There must be some way to shoehorn that wicked drivetrain into a stock looking BA or FG Falcon, for the ultimate sleeper.
For that coin I would buy the Commodore GTS R and pocket the $35,000, and have a better all round car and track vehicle.
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