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30-09-2015, 12:39 PM | #1 | ||
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After going past a speed trap do you flash oncoming vehicles?
(I'm talking about headlights). I had a few dozen vehicles come past yesterday prior to going past a speed camera set up on the side of the road (a side street out in the middle of nowhere - 60 zone) not a single car gave me a warning. I was sitting on the speed limit anyway so no problem there, but it does appear to be happening less and less. I figure if they are going to go to the trouble of hiding I'll go to the trouble of letting others know, especially when the spot they choose isn't dangerous but is suspiciously close to a change in speed limits. |
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30-09-2015, 12:44 PM | #2 | ||
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As I see much of the speed related cameras as nothing more than a revenue raiser targeting low range speeders, I have no problem with people giving fellow drivers a fighting chance.
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30-09-2015, 12:53 PM | #3 | ||
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Simple answer, yes.
Revenue raiser cameras are just another way to raise a tax. If they were set up in black spots that would be different, but they are not. A straight road with clear vision is not a black spot. Nor is a camera just on the other side of a speed limit zone change.
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30-09-2015, 01:00 PM | #4 | |||
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Yes I do all the time
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09-10-2015, 03:19 PM | #6 | ||
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Same
Sometimes i do when i care, other times no as no one does it for me it seems.
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30-09-2015, 12:59 PM | #7 | ||
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I always appreciate a flash if I get one; and will flash my lights to oncoming traffic it doesn't look like a police car is amongst them.
Once though, it was dusk and I was turning right to go into Bunnings, having just driven past a mobile speed trap. Flashed the oncoming cars, one of which I realised was a police car when it drew closer. Decided to change plans right then and there, and elected to visit another Bunnings store instead. |
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30-09-2015, 01:07 PM | #8 | ||
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01-10-2015, 07:24 AM | #9 | |||
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NSW police media say that while there’s no specific law against flashing your lights to warn other motorists, doing so may still result in a fine and demerit points. I wonder what they will fine you with, made up laws. |
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01-10-2015, 08:51 AM | #10 | |||
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"The official term for the offence is “Use high-beam on oncoming vehicle less than 200 metres”, and the penalty is an $88 fine and one demerit point." So warning a driver is not illegal, but using your high beams to do it is. |
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AND in Vic Suburbs Camera Cars are not set up in major accident or fatal areas - what a load of BS Quote:
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01-10-2015, 01:00 PM | #12 | ||
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I do the opposite.
If there is a camera, i wont flash people. If i speed, i've accepted the cost of the fine to go that speed. My opinion is, so have other road users who risk it. That said, if i see someone driving like a ****tard (clearly going way above the limit) i'll randomly flash where there isn't a camera so they freak out and slow down |
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07-10-2015, 10:41 PM | #13 | |||
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30-09-2015, 01:10 PM | #14 | ||
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I flash,there was a couple of guys that were sitting a little way up the road and holding signs warning of the camera ahead here in perth,apparently its legal to do so because there was a story about it somewhere good blokes!
I saw them on fremantle road gosnells and Tonkin hwy |
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30-09-2015, 01:31 PM | #15 | ||
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Its illegal in NSW. Chances are there is a chase car waiting around the corner that may see you.
Don't speed. |
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30-09-2015, 01:45 PM | #16 | ||
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i do when i remember, but i have also flashed an unmarked car one day that was funny, he just flashed the sirens and waved too me hah
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30-09-2015, 01:50 PM | #17 | ||
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Do it all the time, especially when travelling to the snow from Canberra. This year in the snow season there wasn't actually many set up. They targeted silly overtakes this year and nailed a lot of people. It was great to see as there are always head ons on the Monaro between Cooma and Jindy.
It's amazing how many people don't do it anymore |
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30-09-2015, 02:25 PM | #19 | ||
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Always flash the lights to let others know about a camera. The only exception is when i see someone who is really pushing the limits driving way over the limit or is tailgating heavily or dangerously overtaking. In my opinion they deserve to be booked so im not going to give them any warning. But the average motorist cruising along doesnt deserve to get pinged going 3kmh over so they will get a warning from me about a camera.
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01-10-2015, 10:56 AM | #20 | |||
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People dont get speeding fines for not speeding and yet oddly, innocent people get killed by speedsters who lose control of their vehicle. |
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01-10-2015, 11:26 AM | #21 | |||
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Sure, hit drivers hard in areas like school zones and where the speed is excessive but out on an open highway doing ten over the limit or five or so on an arterial road going downhill is a different matter. In the mind of many motorists, speed restrictions need to be readdressed. And yes you may flash someone who is excessive and doesn’t deserve a warning but those drivers are usually serial offenders and even when caught will continue to be a danger on the roads. You’ve only got to watch that program on the Tele about the Highway Patrol to see the stupid things people do that don’t involve speeding and in many cases in my opinion, the fines appear to be of little deterrent. The number of people that drive while unlicensed or unregistered vehicles astonishes me. Just my opinion. |
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01-10-2015, 12:10 PM | #22 | ||
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I do, but it annoys me that nobody acknowledges you trying to help them theses days. Hardly ever get a thank you wave. It's simple manners.
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03-10-2015, 10:18 AM | #23 | |||
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"Here ya go mate, i saved you from getting a fine, and next month you might go out and kill my son, and i aint the brightest person in the world, so after i attend my sons funeral, i will walk into the rego office and pay an extra $20 on my registration that the government need not have raised if only i let you get that fine" Last edited by bobthebilda; 03-10-2015 at 10:44 AM. |
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03-10-2015, 12:00 PM | #24 | |||
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The counter attack is, if Government’s weren’t organisations that are so self-serving and wasteful when it comes to public money, maybe, just maybe these tactics wouldn’t be needed and more money would be available simply because wastage is controlled. Then speed limits in some areas could be lifted to give the public the impression this is about safety and not just about trying to catch people out to raise money. The constant variation of speed limits along roads and streets for no common sense reason where a driver has to be alert to speed signs at the expense of being attentive to the act of safe driving is an issue that often pops up. Mobile phones are considered as dangerous and deadly as drink driving but the penalties don’t reflect that and is it because Governments haven’t yet figured out a means for a camera to catch you on the phone so they can revenue raise. I’m not a person that condones life threatening activities but I am one that believes there is real and perceived differences in the level of an activity and I’m just saying it doesn’t hurt to give motorists a fair go and if flashing your lights gives them a fighting chance against a Government that isn’t really in it for the safety of motorists then I can live with that. As far as your reference to raising taxes is concerned, even a dill would understand that Australia is long overdue for some meaningful Tax reform. I also know some people will take the high road where speed kills and they won’t accept there may be a difference between being 1km over or 100km and there are those like me who sit on the fence and see a need for a more understanding approach to why people speed. I read once that if a large percentage of motorists are driving say 10 kilometres over the limit then the limit doesn’t reflect what most motorists consider to be safe and that limit should be reassessed. But we have differing opinions and that’s good a good thing as it allows different arguments for and against to be put out for discussion. |
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30-09-2015, 02:48 PM | #26 | ||
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There has been reported instances of another cop car up from a radar trap booking drivers for flashing. Deliberate entrapment.
These are rumors however, and up here in Qld. But rumors are usually true.
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09-10-2015, 11:29 PM | #28 | |||
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Hasnt stopped me, just more cautious after speed cameras/ undercovers
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30-09-2015, 02:54 PM | #29 | ||
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not going to lie, the title of this thread got me.
but yeah I will flash all the time
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30-09-2015, 03:00 PM | #30 | ||
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What the police will get you under (same law across Australia) is use of high beam within 200 metres of oncoming car. The way around that would be to turn your headlights on and off (low beam) quickly, no law against that.
But I bet they'd enforce that law selectively. For example, many out of courtesy would flash another vehicle to indicate that they can turn in front of you. The police could raise a lot of money out of that one and at the same time clamp down on social politeness. Can't have politeness in society can we. Another aspect of life where common sense has gone out the window to be replaced by nannying.
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